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brossow 04-21-2010 06:53 PM

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More pics. :metal:

Wildstreak 04-21-2010 06:53 PM

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bling bling, those are sweet looking even in the box.

fast 95 04-21-2010 07:19 PM

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Those center caps are different than mine, changes have been made for sure.

brossow 04-21-2010 08:21 PM

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Might be some disappointed 338 fans out there. Just decided I should check the new hub bore and compare it with my front hubs (assuming the 20x8.5 will have the same bore as the 20x10). Here are the results from my digital caliper:
New 338 hub bore on the front side of rim: 2.682" (68 mm)

Stock hub outside diameter: 2.835" (72 mm)
So it looks like even after all this waiting I'm still gonna get to do some grinding on the hubs to get the fronts to fit. That's really super-duper-uncool, even if it's only 2 mm all around. I thought these had been reworked to fit properly.

(No, I haven't tried test-fitting yet. The chassis is still buried under a pile of parts from winter storage.)

Brent

k5hart 04-21-2010 09:32 PM

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Man that's a good lookin' wheel! :metal:

adpostel 04-21-2010 11:46 PM

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Ole Brown came through today around 4:30 and delivered my goodies......Staggered set of black centers 20x10's and 18x8's........Gotta work this weekend, but will have rubber on them next week.....Man they are sick lookin' I can't wait to get them on....the kids have been in the garage all afternoon looking and polishin' them in the box.......they sure came fast after I recieved the email......

Sublvr72 04-22-2010 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by adpostel (Post 3934093)
Ole Brown came through today around 4:30 and delivered my goodies......Staggered set of black centers 20x10's and 18x8's........Gotta work this weekend, but will have rubber on them next week.....Man they are sick lookin' I can't wait to get them on....the kids have been in the garage all afternoon looking and polishin' them in the box.......they sure came fast after I recieved the email......


glad to hear you got them safely! Yeah, they do arrive pretty quickly once I'm notified they ship.

And for the rest of you, you probably won't get tracking information for the simple reason of they are shipping from remote warehouses across the country, and by the time the tracking info gets entered into the system you guys will already have the wheels.

SUBURBANlinoleum 04-22-2010 05:52 AM

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Wow - I found this thread. Group buy, cheap, etc..

Then a page or so in, "prices had to be removed", "PM ____".
I see tons of peol sying ":I want this or that size"...how'd they find the price. They all OMd you? Can you tell us?

...then it says "okay, the prices are back in the original thread about this".

Linked to it, looked at the last few pages...nope.

20x10, 20x8, I think were available?

CHROME. (now in the later post, you guys got the cart before the horse and got people fired up wanting chrome, then "sales rep says they are going to run colors, THEN all the chrome ones".
Okay...happens...they lied.

Then a "hiccup" in drop shipping is mentioned.

Sounds like the wheel company pronised they do it, people got in line then they changed the game on you.

Q=Is it going smoothly now, or...?

Q=What is the MSRP on the wheels I mentioned?
Q=What is the price you canget them for.

Thanks. Simple.

Ipaintgrt 04-22-2010 06:18 AM

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If you check the HID website that is listed on the first page you can see all the prices and all the options. Here is a link to it.
http://hid-solutions.com/categories/Wheels/
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brossow 04-22-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBURBANlinoleum (Post 3934342)
Wow - I found this thread. Group buy, cheap, etc..

Then a page or so in, "prices had to be removed", "PM ____".
I see tons of peol sying ":I want this or that size"...how'd they find the price. They all OMd you? Can you tell us?

...then it says "okay, the prices are back in the original thread about this".

Linked to it, looked at the last few pages...nope.

20x10, 20x8, I think were available?

CHROME. (now in the later post, you guys got the cart before the horse and got people fired up wanting chrome, then "sales rep says they are going to run colors, THEN all the chrome ones".
Okay...happens...they lied.

Then a "hiccup" in drop shipping is mentioned.

Sounds like the wheel company pronised they do it, people got in line then they changed the game on you.

Q=Is it going smoothly now, or...?

Q=What is the MSRP on the wheels I mentioned?
Q=What is the price you canget them for.

Thanks. Simple.

Everything you need to know is in the first post in this thread. I really don't care for the tone of your message and so I'll leave it up to you to re-read that first post about how to get pricing, then scan the full text of the rest of this thread for answers to the rest of your questions. It's all here if you read instead of pick and choose.

FWIW, the first two rounds of the group buy are done. There's a third, but it's open-ended with no specific order date. Sounds like you might be happier just buying 'em on eBay.

Brent

sweetnlow67 04-22-2010 02:10 PM

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yea the way I see it is sublvr is doing us a favor, he doesn't have to spenf all of his time trying to get these wheels fort us at such a good price so if you dont like how its working out then go to a wheel store and dont screw this up for the rest of us that apprecciate a good deal

brossow 04-22-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetnlow67 (Post 3934888)
yea the way I see it is sublvr is doing us a favor

To say Sublvr72 has done us a favor is a massive understatement. There's virtually nothing in it for him except a bunch of good karma and a lot of headaches and hassles that I'm sure he didn't anticipate when he volunteered for this. :dohh:

smith2481 04-22-2010 05:21 PM

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yeah if you are going to complain about this sweet deal then go pay about 200 300 dollars more

sweetnlow67 04-22-2010 05:23 PM

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agreed!

NORCAL SS 04-22-2010 06:08 PM

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fast 95 04-22-2010 07:58 PM

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Norcal, how's the old man like it?

brossow 04-22-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3933645)
Might be some disappointed 338 fans out there. Just decided I should check the new hub bore and compare it with my front hubs (assuming the 20x8.5 will have the same bore as the 20x10). Here are the results from my digital caliper:
New 338 hub bore on the front side of rim: 2.682" (68 mm)

Stock hub outside diameter: 2.835" (72 mm)
So it looks like even after all this waiting I'm still gonna get to do some grinding on the hubs to get the fronts to fit. That's really super-duper-uncool, even if it's only 2 mm all around. I thought these had been reworked to fit properly.

(No, I haven't tried test-fitting yet. The chassis is still buried under a pile of parts from winter storage.)

Brent



Posted this in the other thread but thought I'd share here, too, since not all of you follow both threads. (And am I the only one not getting notifications anymore from this board when a reply is posted in a thread I follow?)

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Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3934053)
Better yet, I might drag a rim to AutoZone and see if they'll pull a stock HD rotor for me to test-fit. That'd be a helluva lot easier than trying to get at the chassis. I think I'll go throw a rim in the back of my car right now. :)

Just got back from AutoZone. BAD NEWS. The stock rotor does not fit into the -3 rim. I forgot to bring my caliper to measure, but from what others have reported it seems to be the same :censored: issue as with the old revision, bottoming out about 1/4" short of sitting flush. Honest to God, what the :censored: did they change in this revision?!

I'm going to be making a call to the regional AEW office tomorrow and let them know what's up. It's not the regional manager's fault they effed it up, but at least he can pass it up the chain.

Unbe-effing-lievable. :cuss:

Brent

Sublvr72 04-22-2010 10:43 PM

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That's correct, the bore changed but it still isn't enough to clear the larger rotor. The only options are to trim the rotor or use a small spacer. It's only a few mm off.

brossow 04-22-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublvr72 (Post 3935771)
That's correct, the bore changed but it still isn't enough to clear the larger rotor. The only options are to trim the rotor or use a small spacer. It's only a few mm off.

So why did they bother changing it? Curious as to who benefited from this change.

Whatever the case, I just ordered a pair of 1/4" spacers on eBay. At $17.95 shipped, then $1.44 instant cashback via Bing, it's cheaper and a lot less hassle than going to a machine shop, and on this project I'm not gonna just take a grinder to my hubs. If they work, great. If they don't, it's not like I invested a fortune in 'em. Until the chrome fronts start shipping it's not an issue anyway. (To be honest, if I had known that after all this waiting they still weren't going to fit right out of the box, I'm not sure I would have bothered with all this.)

NORCAL SS 04-23-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fast 95 (Post 3935397)
Norcal, how's the old man like it?


likes is alot truck handles great with the suspension set up i went with.

mrh33916 04-23-2010 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877769)
Ok, guys,

A little redneck machining aka a grinder and they slid right on!! Looks like the fronts are solved, now onto the rears.

Before and after, you only have to take a little off, not much.

Havent tried the new revised center cap yet but will let you know in a few.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04014.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04015.jpg

Leviticus posted this on page 7,

If this is all that's needed I can live with a little grinding,

smith2481 04-23-2010 06:12 AM

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that is what I am going to do with my hubs when I get my wheels

NORCAL SS 04-23-2010 09:01 AM

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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...9_118313_n.jpg

brossow 04-23-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mrh33916 (Post 3936119)
Leviticus posted this on page 7,

If this is all that's needed I can live with a little grinding,

Just very irritating that after all the hype and all the wait we STILL have to grind the hubs or use spacers. I don't get it. If everyone is happy to grind away, why didn't y'all do it six months ago instead of waiting for the revised rims? :confused:

*Dylan 04-23-2010 11:15 AM

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Because to my knowledge this group buy wasn't going on six months ago?

brossow 04-23-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by *Dylan (Post 3936498)
Because to my knowledge this group buy wasn't going on six months ago?

eBay prices aren't significantly higher than the group buy price when shipping is figured in. Yet everyone (including me) was waiting with bated breath for the revised rims to come out, under the apparent misconception that they would actually fix the fitment issue. It was only when the -3 was about to be released into the wild that all of a sudden people were clamoring to order and I put together the group buy. If people were really hot for rims that weren't going to fit right, they could have ordered six months ago and never missed the little bit of extra money they could have saved through this GB.

VA72C10 04-23-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3936285)
Just very irritating that after all the hype and all the wait we STILL have to grind the hubs or use spacers. I don't get it. If everyone is happy to grind away, why didn't y'all do it six months ago instead of waiting for the revised rims? :confused:

It appears the grinding now is very minimal and something that most anyone with a cheap grinder could accomplish. Before it looked to be something you had to take to a machine shop to have a good amount of material removed.

That being said, BOSS really shot themselves in the foot with this one. The good news is it will keep the number of trucks running these down somewhat so you won't have as many people with the same rims.... :)

Beatcoaster 04-23-2010 10:08 PM

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I wish they would/could get it right with the 6 lug 330's for my 69, I would be a definite customer...

Beatcoaster 04-23-2010 10:35 PM

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double post...

Sublvr72 04-23-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatcoaster (Post 3937402)
I wish they would/could get it right with the 6 lug 330's for my 69, I would be a definite customer...

what's wrong with the 330's?

Beatcoaster 04-24-2010 02:38 PM

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I am assumming I would need to get my new front rotors cut for the bore size like all the others, no?

I was also told by a local dealer the offset/bs is wrong for my truck and I would need some large spacers(especially in the rear) that wouldn't be smart to install...

Are they wrong?

brossow 04-24-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatcoaster (Post 3938312)
I am assumming I would need to get my new front rotors cut for the bore size like all the others, no?

I was also told by a local dealer the offset/bs is wrong for my truck and I would need some large spacers(especially in the rear) that wouldn't be smart to install...

Are they wrong?

They're not entirely wrong. The rear offset (at least in 20x10) is wrong for the rear by about an inch and will require a spacer (more about that below). The front is fine (once you cut down the hub or use a small spacer).

There's nothing wrong with an adapter-style spacer in the rear, unless maybe you're putting down 800 ft-lb of torque and launching like a maniac. For a daily driver there's nothing wrong with a good bolt-on spacer (such as this set that I recently purchased on eBay).

Bottom line is if you want these rims, you'll have to use spacers in the rear and work some kind of magic up front. They obviously weren't designed for our trucks, but making them work isn't difficult or dangerous.

Brent

fpjr0 04-24-2010 08:52 PM

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that kind of stinks..... I was all happy cuz I have the 1" rotor so I was thinking I was going to get away from doing anything to make the wheels fit,, but now that you mention that backspacing for the rear 20x10, I am pissed lol..... I order a 20x10 for the rear with 295/40 tire now the you guys mention the need for a spacer , do yo think I could go up to the 305/40 tire ? should fit with the spacer.... what do you guys thinkkk sorryy for being off topic a little
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edit" but now that I think about it those rear tires are 20x10 with a backspacing for 6.5 and a offset of +20 mm which will offset the 6.5 backspacing down to something just above the 5.5 mark... ? any body? but then again I am probably wrong.,....

than again.. I read about the adapter/spacer no big deal.. just thinking out loud...

brossow 04-25-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fpjr0 (Post 3938884)
edit" but now that I think about it those rear tires are 20x10 with a backspacing for 6.5 and a offset of +20 mm which will offset the 6.5 backspacing down to something just above the 5.5 mark... ? any body? but then again I am probably wrong.

I don't think you understand the difference between backspacing and offset. There's a good discussion here, but in a nutshell offset is how far the mounting surface is from the wheel's center line and backspacing is how far the mounting surface is from the inside lip of the wheel. The offset doesn't change the backspacing -- the two are fixed figures that are related but not in the way you're thinking.

adpostel 04-25-2010 09:05 AM

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So now your saying that if you are running the 1.25 rotors, you have to grind the rotor down or use a spacer AND you'll have to use a spacer in the back as well? Or is the rear spacer only if you don't have room for the larger tire. I have mini tubs in the back, so I am guessing it will be fine. The rear spacer is so that the larger tire will fit in the wheel well, not anything having to do with the hub bore size, correct?

70k52wd 04-25-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by adpostel (Post 3939625)
So now your saying that if you are running the 1.25 rotors, you have to grind the rotor down or use a spacer AND you'll have to use a spacer in the back as well? Or is the rear spacer only if you don't have room for the larger tire. I have mini tubs in the back, so I am guessing it will be fine. The rear spacer is so that the larger tire will fit in the wheel well, not anything having to do with the hub bore size, correct?

Post #477 will answer your question about needing a spacer on the rear.

brossow 04-25-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by adpostel (Post 3939625)
So now your saying that if you are running the 1.25 rotors, you have to grind the rotor down or use a spacer AND you'll have to use a spacer in the back as well? Or is the rear spacer only if you don't have room for the larger tire. I have mini tubs in the back, so I am guessing it will be fine. The rear spacer is so that the larger tire will fit in the wheel well, not anything having to do with the hub bore size, correct?

That's exactly what I'm saying about the front. That was a disappointment given how long we waited for the rims to be revised. However, the need for a rear spacer is nothing new. I'm surprised that anyone is still surprised by this. Simply looking at the offset should tell you that.


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Originally Posted by 70k52wd (Post 3939674)
Post #477 will answer your question about needing a spacer on the rear.

>> Link <<

mrh33916 04-25-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NORCAL SS (Post 3906627)
security heres what i did listen up for a customers truck. we ended up cutting the inside fenderwell and widended the wheel to 13 inches. (3 inches on inside)

then put on a mickey thompson 29x15x20 http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...em=SportsmanSR
on it

weldcraftwheels.com did the widening for me looked sweet!!!

Got any pictures?

Boise69 04-25-2010 11:30 AM

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I received my wheels last week (18's) and they are simply beautiful. I'm working with lolife99 to make them work with my 69 since he found the way and what a help he is!!! So i'm off to convert my front susp to 73+. I'll post a build thread on it. Thanks guys!

Security guy 04-25-2010 11:32 AM

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Here is some pics of the front issues. The rotor is only 2mm to big, but I agree that a grinder would fix the issue pretty easy. I haven't done mine yet, but I don't think that it will be a big deal. I wonder too who was in charge of re-designing these. Did they ever try one of these on a rotor? It would of been easy for them to machine 2mm more on the wheel but oh well, its done now. Has anyone noticed that there has been over 15,000 views of this thread? Pretty cool. Let me know if anyone else needs any pics of anything.

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