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Fellas,
As part of my HL upgrade process, I ordered and received a harness from HarnessWorx (Gmachinz here on the forum), and lemme tell you.. I'm SUPER impressed with the quality. I haven't installed them yet, but I'm looking forward to that. He built a bulkhead-out harness for me, and it looks and feels SOLID. If you haven't done this upgrade yet, ping him, and tell him I sent you. No, this isn't a paid advertisement, and I am a real customer. I'm just THAT impressed!
Now, to pick out what headlight assembly I want to use. Still torn between LED and other options...

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I like the look of these.. The link you sent for Amazon.. not sure if that's for the e-code or not?? Tried looking it up.. Can't get a definitive answer.

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I just placed an order on eBay for some factory Wrangler headlights. They are coming with some Phillips bulbs and I paid $40. I got the adapter harness for $11. I already have they relay harness for the headlights. When I receive everything and install them I'll put an update in this thread.

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Amazon doesn't refer to it as an E-code headlamp, but that's what it is -- Cibie 82440. They also incorrectly call it a fog lamp, but that may be for legal purposes because technically, they are not DOT-approved. FWIW, I bought my first E-codes in the early Seventies and have never had any issues with them. Just aim them so they won't blind oncoming traffic -- adjust the low beams so the horizontal cutoff is slightly lower than the lamp and you'll be fine. Standard 55/60W bulbs are more than adequate for highway use (and are not included with the lamps from Amazon).

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Got my jeep headlights in today. Much better light pattern and whiter light than the stock sealed beams. I may upgrade bulbs later on, but overall I'm pretty happy with them.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...73BEC7B7BE.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...763E626791.jpg

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Hey Willie, what relay harness upgrade are you using?? I'm thinking of doing the same upgrade in my c10...

will

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What do you do with the 4 headlight GMC trucks? All these conversions have the high and low beam in the same headlight

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5 3/4" E-codes are also available for quad headlamp applications. :chevy:

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I'm using one that was originally made for a Porsche. German ingenuity and all that. ;)

There is a guy here that makes them and from what I've read he uses good quality components as compared to the Chinese-made stuff one can find online.

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Happen to have a link?

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Cibies at Daniel Stern Lighting: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html


Hella Hi/Low at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-0028508...lla+headlights
Hella Hi only at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-0024258...EN6Z870EAPQ0GC


A couple things to be aware of. Everything else being equal, a larger lamp has greater light output than a smaller lamp. So a 7" Hi/Low will slightly outperform a 5 3/4" Hi/Low. And a Hi/Low lamp is, by design, a compromise between the requirements of a high beam, and the requirements of a low beam. However, the high-beam only on a quad setup is designed specifically for maximum performance as a high beam, which is to say they are very impressive.

In a nutshell, if you upgrade all four 5 3/4" lamps of your quad system, you may notice a bit less light on low beam compared to a 7" H4 setup. Still excellent, well-controlled lighting. Switching to high beam will amaze you. When I had four Cibies in my old '66 Corvette, the word I used to describe the high beams was "dazzling". I still miss that car.

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Do you have any pictures with the install done? I’ve been looking for something for my 72 jimmy.

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Relay harness is a great upgrade and if you have about 1 hr of time you can do it yourself with the parts from any auto store.


Parts:
2- 30/40 amp relays = $10.00 most auto parts have them spade connectors = $2.00 wire = $3.00 Time = $0 Total = less than $20.00 Kits cost upward of $50.00! This is for Chevy's and GMC trucks are cars. Some guy's like adding the extra relays for the GMC truck but it's not a must. The 2 relays will handle the system just fine. Why do you need relays on your old vehicle you ask? Have you ever checked the voltage at the head lights with everything on in the truck? I bet not you would be surprised to find only about 10/11 volts at the plugs and maybe even less. The light's look dim and flicker at night when the motor is idling. To get full advantage of the lights you need at least 12 volts and 13,14 is even better. Adding a relay kit will fix this and it will help save you money on other components in the wiring system. Head light switch, dimmer and not to mention it will help on the over all load that your harness has to carry. Take unplug the drivers side head light from the wiring. (Note) The drivers side head light controls both sides low and high beams.. Then with your test light turn the lights on low beam. Check the connector with test light to find the power on the connector. This will be you low beam. Turn the lights off. Cut this wire about 12" back from the connector it's just a matter of where you plan to mount the relays. Then take the end from the harness and crimp the spade connector to it and put on the #86 terminal of the relay. Then take the end going to the head light connector and connect it to terminal #87 . Now connect terminal #85 to the truck for a good ground anywhere you see fit. (note) Make sure it's bare metal for the ground. You could also do the ground for the high beam also at this time. Now you have a couple of choices for the 12 volts hot lead here. It's a matter of what you want to do. You want a good source for this so either run off the battery are the back side of the alternator but make sure you put at least a 30 amp fuse in line. Either one is OK it's just less wire to run off the alternator. (note) the 12 volt source will need to be ran to both relays. So I suggest is make a jumper between the 2 relays. Hook the 12 volt source to the terminal #30 on the relay's, You now have the low beams ready to work and the high beam has a 12 volt source wire. The high beam will be as the low beam. Test the lights now and put them on high beam and check with test light. Clip this wire as you did the L/B and wire per the same instructions. That's it. Enjoy your new lights. The last picture is of my 64 Impala I did the same upgrade and it's idling with the high beams on @ 14.35 volts at the lights. It has right at 14 volts inside the car as well not much loss at all and the electrical system is much less strained now. I have done this upgrade to all 4 of mine.
Here is my face book page with this same info and pictures.:chevy:



https://www.facebook.com/pg/C10Tour/...-&__tn__=-UC-R

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It is much brighter than factory and I have the relay upgrade also.

They do have some dome shape to them but with the way the bulbs are inset into the bezels it isn't that noticeable unless you are up close. My Panel Truck is modded to the max with molded one piece front clip, louvered hood, frenched tail lights, frenched antenna hole, and rolled pans front and rear, so it really doesn't make any difference in my case.... You guys' mileage may vary.

Don't look at the bugs and imperfections, I drive it....:)

LockDoc

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LockDoc what is the 2 boxes on the dash sir? Speakers?:chevy:


https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...1&d=1573138539

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Yep, speakers. They are off of the sides of a computer monitor. They work good with my MP3 player. I just unplug them and lay them behind the seat when I go to shows or cruise nights.....

LockDoc

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Cool!
I'm thinking about doing some blue tooth stuff for my daughter's truck. Instead of the old school radio.
:chevy:

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Hi Doc. Nice Panelwagon. This is off-topic to the headlamp conversion -- but is that a fiberglas one-piece doghouse?

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Doc every time I see your panel I wish I had went that direction with my Burban. That is one sweet truck.


Here is a link to my Burban repair thread. Scroll down to post 105 for information on how I had to modify the headlight buckets to install my Euro Hellas. And a photo on what they look like installed.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=698377&page=5

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Thanks. The front clip is all steel. I didn't do it, it was already done when I bought the truck.

Thanks. I really like it and it gets a lot of compliments at the few shows I attend and the cruise nights.

LockDoc

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I will just add my info into the mix.

I installed some 7" Dapper lights into my 72. They have a few versions, including one which is LEDs. I did their V2, which is a true HID projector light. You can customize them quite a bit, including chrome, black, or carbon backgrounds. You can add halos (inner and outer) as well as switchback lighting.

I did it all, so I have outer halos always on (running light), and inner halo is parking light. Headlights off, the outer halo os 100% power. When headlights come in, they're 50% power. Highbeam is a true shutter, with clear cutoff too.

When I flip my turn signal out, the outer white halo blinks amber (switchback). It's a pretty trick setup.

I did have to cut my buckers larger for the V2, as it's a bigger light. I think the V1 and LED lights are smaller, but not as bright.

But like I said, it's all optionaly, so you could get just a more traditional looking HID by going without halos in their chrome background.

https://i.ibb.co/rmHv6Sj/IMG-20190603-151801-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/GH9pqh1/IMG-20190601-104329-1.jpg

Edit: Looks like they also have an OE model that is an LED light:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...g?v=1548676288