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the upper cup bolts in and the lower one sets in the lower spring pocket. as for part number just go to ***************** and click on bag cups

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Is it really that easy? What years of Chevy are this easy? I might change what type of truck i am looking for.

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The front is pretty simple on all 67-72 and 73-87 trucks because the suspension is almost identical. The upper bag plate bolts to the area of the crossmember around the spring pocket.

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The bottom of the bag has a "cup" bolted to it that sits in the bottom of the spring pocket. It is not mounted, instead it "floats" in the cup. This prevents the bag from ever being over extended.

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Routing the air lines is time consuming and it's "very" critical that they are routed correctly. They must be ran through grommets, rubber hose, or wire loom at any point that they come in contact with anything. Any point of frisction can create a weak spot that will blow.

They can not be ran anywhere near the exhaust. Even the heat created by an exhaust leak can build up in an area sifficent enough to cause a line to blow. You can use copper line to prevent this, but it is much more time consuming to run.

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looks good

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Looks great. Glad to hear you are so satisfied with ride and fit.

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Very nice upgrade! Look good! Now I need to find $900........

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Glad to see you got it back on the road! How are those shocks working with the air ride set up?

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Wink_tim, killer looking truck! :metal:

Hey what is your rise time from flat? And how many times can you do it before your compressor kicks on?

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:cong: :phat:

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The ride is super smooth, I have no intentions of changing out the shocks. I would recomend them if you are going with bags. Like I mentioned before they are the ones you get with ECE's relocator kit.

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I just installed the relocator kit on my 69 Burb. It was very simple to install and it made a BIG difference in reducing the bounce in the rear. IMO this should be part of ART rear bag kit.

Rob

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It will rise to ride height in about 1 second, maximum lift in 2 to 3. I only have the single 5 gallon tank for now so the compressors will kick on by the second time I cycle the bags. I think I will add a 3 gallon tank on each side of the frame at the rear later. This would give me a total of 11 gallons, and I think I should be able to play with the switches a bit longer then.

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I was suprised that for the cost it was not part of their kit. Did you stick with the air ride technologies shocks or use KYB's.

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wink_tim, now you need to change your sig from "4"/5" Drop" to "Bagged"

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Got it covered, thanks for the reminder.

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Looks great!The aired up pics....is that ride height or max lift?

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Thats max lift. Ride height is just a couple inches higher than the aired out pics.

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Any chance you could get part #'s off those shocks next time you're under there? I already have the relocation brackets and would like to see if I can find the shocks cheaper than ECE is asking. I would really appreciate it!

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ahhh good news!I'm goin with a very similar setup but mines still just a frame with bags.I've been real curious about what the ride height would be.
What pressures you running?I'd sure like to see a pic at ride height as well whenever you can.

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Hi, cool setup...Do you have any pics of the rear bag install . i am trying to install the back bags and i dont have a cup or any thing. the air bag has two places for the bolts and on for the sir fitting. do i just drill the the three hols out and bount like that . any info helpfull or pics to. Thanks Frank


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You are correct sir. I drillied 2 3/8" holes for bolts and 1 aprox. 1" for the fitting on the under side of the frame, same location as factory spring. Check back in this post, I made a template to transfer the marks. Very simple.;)

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BTW, this has been covered before, but anyone using Suicide Doors lower cups should consider triming them down about 1". I took mine back out and cut them, now my front cross member is maybe 1" off the ground aired out.They are way too tall as shipped.;)

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Do you have a shot of your truck aired out with the cups trimmed?

<edit> I ask because I will be installing mine this week!

Also, are you running drop spindles?

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No, but if you give about 10 minutes I will go outside and take one for you.;) Oh, and yes I am running drop spindles, 2.5".

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How about these?;)

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you are running blocks in the rear too, correct? What size?

By the way, your truck looks great!

I will be installing my kit over the next week or so. I am trying to do it without pulling the bed and I should be ok. I don't have a garage that my truck fits into and I would rather not have to put the bed somewhere while I get everything done.

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Yes, they are 2" blocks. It would be possible to do with the bed on, not easy, but possible. Let me know if you have any questions, I can try to help.;)

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Mine will be a little different then the others on here, but I think everyones is a little different. I will be taking pics of mine to share as well, just in case my system helps any.
As it is I am running two lines off the tank, one for each side. My valves will be mounted on the frame under right under the cab for easy access. That way I have a shorter distance for the wires as well.

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great truck

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Wink-

Want to make sure I've got this right.

You are bagged in stock spring locations front and back, with a 2 1/2" c-notch correct?

How far off the ground are the bumpers and pinch welds when aired out?

Truck looks great btw.-Chris

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He also cut down the front cups (about an inch left).

I am leaving my cups as is for now and may run a small cup in the rear to start with. I can go lower if I want, but going higher would mean additional work to drive it. At this point I would be happy to be on the road again.

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the truck looks great do you have any plans for wheels

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Should be a sticky.....

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It is time to take the bed off. Got all my stuff ready.
minus the comp. switches and tank. Get that latter.

Thanks for this tread


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Maybe I overlooked this tidbit of info....but how do the bags mount on the trailing arms?
It looks like the bags have a center hole for air, but outer holes for mounting. Trailing arms have a center hole for the bolts.
See my problem?
Is there a bracket, do you drill extra holes, or is there a specific air bag part number to get to the hole is in the correct place?

Thanks in advance,
Putter

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Usually most bottom mounts on the bags have one bolt hole, which works great with the trailing arm. It's the top one that has two mounting studs or bolt holes.

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So would the rear bag require a plate of any sort where the bag meets the frame? I just don't want to dive in half-informed.
The front has been well covered by several posts and makes perfect sense, including cutting the cups down....but the back doesn't seem to get as much coverage in the threads.

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Some will choose to install a 'hat' that has the required holes. This makes for a much easier install but adds to the overall bag height (so it limits the total drop).

Others will mount the bottom of the bag through the original hole in the trailing arm & drill the required holes in the frame. This is much more difficult but allows for more total drop (or more air psi required per bag height which can help w/the overall 'spring' rate).