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MalibuSSwagon 06-11-2015 04:20 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I did my harness myself, only difference is I'm keeping the Silverado fusebox, so I only had to strip out circuits I'm not using.

tinydb84 06-11-2015 08:58 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I was going to use wait4me but looking at that harness I might spend a few more bucks and get a nicer one.

Liltroy 06-11-2015 09:37 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinydb84 (Post 7206630)
I was going to use wait4me but looking at that harness I might spend a few more bucks and get a nicer one.

If I ever do another swap, I will DEFINATELY pay the extra money for a new one. That's all I'm gonna say.

Liltroy 06-11-2015 10:52 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
so is this how I run the "hot" cables? through fuse, then to relay, then to location right?
And are the fuse and relay ratings correct?No trigger wires in this sketch....just the 12volt power wires.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psldcnzlpw.jpg

Liltroy 06-12-2015 02:34 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Been out in garage redoing the harness. Rerouted a lot of stuff! Starting to make more sense now. I'm gonna buy some wire loom tomorrow and re wrap it all. I feel like I just threw $360 in the toilet. :( I guess I can be positive and say at least I get free tunes for life. Since I plan on adding a cam, intake, ported heads, and larger injectors at some point I may feel like I got my money's worth eventually. After what I've been doing for the last few hours I really feel like I should have just done this myself to begin with though.

OutlawDrifter 06-12-2015 09:12 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Your wiring diagram looks good. That should be what you need.

Liltroy 06-12-2015 12:31 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Outstanding. Thank you sir!

Liltroy 06-14-2015 01:48 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
bye bye 1990 exhaust

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psyac9iee5.jpg

Liltroy 06-14-2015 01:49 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Old engine all ready to come out tomorrow

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pskfqr7eaw.jpg


So what do I do with my old alt wires???

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pstyisheaj.jpg

Liltroy 06-14-2015 01:53 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Ok so do I just splice my old starter wire into the purple starter wire in my LS harness??

aknovaman 06-14-2015 08:48 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Yes that is correct. Actually on you application, the starter circuit is separate electrically from the efi harness. It's just wrapped inside the efi harness.

Smokey burnouts 06-14-2015 10:51 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Good job with all the pics and info, def gonna refer back here when I do my swap!! Sweet step side btw👍

Liltroy 06-14-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokey burnouts (Post 7209248)
Good job with all the pics and info, def gonna refer back here when I do my swap!! Sweet step side btw👍

thanks!!

Liltroy 06-14-2015 05:47 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
something seems to be missing!!!

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psg9quv6pk.jpg

Old engines out!!!

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psjy3von2z.jpg

And sold. its on its way to a new home in a 54 chevy 2door.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pss2uxecjv.jpg

Liltroy 06-15-2015 12:46 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Hopefully I can get my transmission cleaned up and painted this week after work so I can put the new drivetrain in this weekend! I think I'm gonna wait till its in the vehicle to change the fluid and filter. Thinking about an hd2 shift reprogramming kit too. Does anyone have this kit installed? I know it gives full manual control but does it still allow automatic function as well?

Liltroy 06-15-2015 10:11 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Guess who got some cool hoodage today?

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psayjnr1uc.jpg

Rich84 06-16-2015 11:02 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I know it's back tracking a bit..But can you tell me how you cleaned the aluminum brackets and accessories to get them ready for paint. I finally got my LQ4 on a stand and have started taking it apart to clean and detail. They are loaded with white powdery oxidation and I'm concerned about the paint sticking and lasting.

Liltroy 06-16-2015 10:11 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I had all the brackets, water pump, ps pump, and a few other items media blasted. Cost me $80. If I had it to do over I would just goto harbor frieght and pay $40 for the 50lb blaster and do it myself.

Rich84 06-17-2015 11:10 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liltroy (Post 7212295)
I had all the brackets, water pump, ps pump, and a few other items media blasted. Cost me $80. If I had it to do over I would just goto harbor frieght and pay $40 for the 50lb blaster and do it myself.

How about the oil pan??

Liltroy 06-17-2015 11:42 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich84 (Post 7212743)
How about the oil pan??

Muretic acid/water mix and a wire brush. I tryed all kinds of stuff to clean the engine....degreaser, simple Greene, oven clean....finally my uncle gave me some muretic acid and water in a spray bottle. Sprayed on watched it bubble for a few minutes, scrubbed a little with plastic brissel brush, hosed with water and she was clean! Wish I would have started with that stuff in the first place!!! I'm gonna see if he can get me some more to clean whine bay with this weekend. I've decided to postpone the engine install and spend some time cleaning and painting engine bay this weekend instead. It'd be a same to drop a pretty new drivetrain into a dirty rusty engine bay!!

Liltroy 06-17-2015 06:49 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Ok I know I flip flop a lot so I'm back on my fuse block and harness. This is how my power wires came back from wait4me performance

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pskogxqish.jpg



For the sake of properly labeling my fuses, how do I trace what wires go where without ripping the harness back apart? Is it safe to just send 12volts down each wire and check each connector with a multimeter? I see that most people seperate the left injectors and coil packs from the right in the fuse block, then a third fuse for sensors and I want to do this as well. I just want everything to be straight for future trouble shooting. Thanks for any help guys.

Liltroy 06-17-2015 06:51 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Ok I know I flip flop a lot so I'm back on my fuse block and harness. This is how my power wires came back from wait4me performance

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pskogxqish.jpg



For the sake of properly labeling my fuses, how do I trace what wires go where without ripping the harness back apart? Is it safe to just send 12volts down each wire and check each connector with a multimeter? I see that most people seperate the left injectors and coil packs from the right in the fuse block, then a third fuse for sensors and I want to do this as well. I just want everything to be straight for future trouble shooting. Thanks for any help guys.

slimneverdies 06-17-2015 07:15 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I think we all flip flop around these builds. As long as you finish everything :smoke:

tinydb84 06-17-2015 07:42 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
I havent done it on an LS harness specifically but I have used a voltmeter or a test light to do that on plenty of wiring.

Liltroy 06-17-2015 11:58 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
found some stuff laying around from my old car stereo bumpin days....decided to use the one in the middle to power my fuse box. fat 4 gauge split to two 10 gauge leads.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psedtbkclb.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10rpyfwa.jpg

This is what Im going for...

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psxvsd7vga.jpg

starting to come together...Im having trouble finding relay terminals for 10 gauge wire. wish radio shack was still in business.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psjdsrbnm9.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pscikym4pw.jpg

Liltroy 06-18-2015 12:05 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
This is my uncles 78 that were trying to put back together from being painted.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psoi9k3kh0.jpg

Liltroy 06-18-2015 12:17 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Steppin Wolf mean muggin...

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psluh4nh5v.jpg

OutlawDrifter 06-18-2015 11:25 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
i hear you about radio shack. definitely made it more difficult every time i want to wire/rewire something!

aknovaman 06-18-2015 12:14 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Not trying to hijack your thread; just info to help.

For you guys building your own standalone harnesses, shoot me a PM with your email address in it and I can send you my simple relay diagram. I use Ford Taurus relay bank that has a top and bottom cover. It is located behind the drivers headlight on a Taurus. I also use a raised 6 fuse panel from Ebay. Cheap, clean and effective.

Here is a video of the layout without the relay panel to and bottom covers.

https://youtu.be/xhqukQYe3Qc

Liltroy 06-18-2015 11:04 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aknovaman (Post 7213888)
Not trying to hijack your thread; just info to help.

For you guys building your own standalone harnesses, shoot me a PM with your email address in it and I can send you my simple relay diagram. I use Ford Taurus relay bank that has a top and bottom cover. It is located behind the drivers headlight on a Taurus. I also use a raised 6 fuse panel from Ebay. Cheap, clean and effective.

Here is a video of the layout without the relay panel to and bottom covers.

https://youtu.be/xhqukQYe3Qc

You're good brother. just wish I wouldve seen that BEFORE I built my set up. :dohh:

aknovaman 06-18-2015 11:27 PM

Search youtube for aknovaman to see my other harness vids. They explain how simple it is to build a harness.

tinydb84 06-19-2015 01:41 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
aknovaman PM incoming

Liltroy 06-19-2015 04:11 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aknovaman (Post 7214505)
Search youtube for aknovaman to see my other harness vids. They explain how simple it is to build a harness.

I paid wait4me performance $360 to redo my harness. since getting it back I have completely torn it apart and redid it. I now know how simple it is and I would never pay to have another one done. Matter of fact, my uncle is talking 5.3 in one of his trucks and Im gonna offer to do his harness for him in exchange for some parts. Yes, its easy...just a bit time consuming but is a days worth of sipping beer and playing with wires worth paying someone almost $400? no.

Liltroy 06-19-2015 04:16 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Aknovaman,

how did you group your harness wires and what am fuse for each set? I was going to group mine like this..
drivers side coil and injectors 15amp,
passenger side coils and injectors 15amp,
ign.ecu,sensors,transmission 15amp,
batt ecu 10amp

does this seem right? thanks for any help

aknovaman 06-19-2015 04:25 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
That sounds good. Pm me with your phone number so we can discuss. It's just easier for me that way. Too much typing.

Ls2 Gto actually connects all power on each bank together so there are only 3 power wires. USA gm separates them more into multiple circuits.

Went to u wrench it today and harvested over 30 Taurus relay banks. Not bad for $5 each bank. Last time I snagged over 40 obd ports. I prefer to use the new fuse panels as the wires connect with spade lugs below the fuses and terminals are not exposed to morons who drop stuff on them and short things out. Plus I have not found any suitable fuse panels on USA vehicles.
I did find some relay banks on ford explorers near driver side firewall on fender but they only contain 2 relays. I use 4 relays, main, fuel, fan1 and fan2.

Sunburnt and tired from morning activities.....need ice cream now.......

Liltroy 06-20-2015 03:17 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Aknovaman....thanks for the call and the help. Should have my fuse block done tonight. I'm still kinda confused about transmission but I think it'll make more since when everything is layed out in front of me.

Liltroy 06-21-2015 12:48 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
got a little done today. Painted transmission..

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psbraxrlp6.jpg

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psof5wl4j7.jpg

installed an-6 line adapters...

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psuyrbwiup.jpg

long one goes in the rear....lol

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pso0hyq0sk.jpg

short one in the front

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psw9asprxc.jpg

all done

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psg0yvk6ja.jpg

this is how i avoid scuffing up my aluminum fittings when using a regular wrench...

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psumkbzlrm.jpg

also i finally installed the last new appliance !!!! finally thats over!!!

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pspca847rh.jpg


MURICA!!!!!

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5s4tsfdz.jpg

got my fuse/relay box finished today as well but no pics yet....sorry.

OutlawDrifter 06-21-2015 11:02 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Good progress!

Liltroy 06-21-2015 03:11 PM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
Finished fuse/relay box. I havent wired in the electric fan relay because Ill be running the manual fan starting off.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psmp9f75hn.jpg

Also decided to replace the transmission seals. I already had a th400 rear seal laying around and theyre the same part number so I stuck it in there but hafta go buy a 4l80 front seal.

I have been on this earth almost 38 years and have yet to find a humane way to remove these seals,lol

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psqitd3qb7.jpg

aknovaman 06-22-2015 07:27 AM

Re: Project "Steppin Wolf" LS swap
 
That looks pretty humane to me"..................


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