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SO I know I've been Pretty Much Decided On a 5.9 Cummins but after alot of Consideration and wellllll Comin on one in Craigs List.... My Mind Got To Churnning, I've decided, And I KNOW there's ALOT more Work involved.......... But i'ma go with a 6.7 Cummins, Same 6speed Manual Tranny... Always Was told if your Gonna do it do it Right the first time and you'll save yourself ALOT of head&heartache down the line So yeah.... the motors gonna cost quite a bit more.... My Question is Does Anyone out there Got Experience With Insurance Auctions??? Like Wrecked Cars & Trucks... Cause thats where I think I'ma end up with a motor from.... and depending on the condition of the frame... I may just do a body swap lol

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Why a 6.7? why not just a common rail 5.9, or put the money into a 12 valve. If get a wrecked truck a body swap may be easier imo, there will be alot of wireing to deal with. What type of front suspension do you want, leaves or coils. Maybe the canadian frames i get are weaker, but they seem to flex alot so if you put in 1000lbs of engine the stock chevy frame would require tons of mods in my opinon.
Please correct me if I'm misinformed, isn't a 6.7 a larger 5.9 with more emmision bs? Anyway curious to see something happen in this way of a build...

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Also curious to see your reasoning.

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From everything I've heard of and the cost involved with the 6.7, I'd just do a 05-07 5.9 CR personally. I know where there is a 08 6.7 for $4500 complete engine if you want. The 6.7's can make good power and you can spool a 66mm turbo with a good tuner, but if it ever has problems, parts are more money and not as available as the 5.9's.

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6.7 or 5.9 CR all require A LOT of electronics.... 12 Valve only requires 3 wires.....or a choke cable if you want to go that route.

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Emmisions aren't a big deal here Nebraska, the reason I'm lookin at a 6.7 is mainly mileage.... I plan I pullin 10k in beef not including trailer, routinely an everything I'm findin is sayin the 6.7's are pullin better mileage.... Also this truck is gonna be an update restoration...... Kinda a truck version of a Barry's Speed Shop Show that used to run on Discovery Channel
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Now I'm curious, people claiming good mileage, do they have turners with egr dpf delete? I've heard alot of guys cursing the 6.7 for poor fuel economy.

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I Just Want the Challenge Mainly... Something I can Call Completely Original

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Just to let you some of the parts for 6.7 are almost double the price of 5.9 cw, I believe I saw a retail price of one injector for a 6.7 is a grand

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yeah I know that...... I Dunna... its Just So enticing..... but the simplicity of the 5.9 has its benefits....... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Three Wires Is Great...

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The 06 up 5.9 CR has more than 3 wires to hook up, just an FYI. Any common rail is going to be more expensive, just plan on it.

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Same thing I've heard. Then the owners spend at least $1500 to get it where they're happy with it.

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I Just Dunna.... the 5.9 is prolly the way I will end up going just due to the cost and lack of 6.7's around.... But I'm the Type of guy that will always wonder "What If" if i don't go with my heart and original idear (The 6.7 Route) .... Plus I want this to be a learning experience when I do it.... and I was planning on putting money into it to make sure it was were I wanted to be with Either Motor... its just a dream at this point though cause I have to get all the 4x4 Parts and the motor and wirin BEFORE I do anything, cause I'll be Doing it all at once

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You should start writing down the cost for all your parts so you have an idea what you're going to be spending. And as far as wiring, I'm guessing you'll have to do that because I don't believe Painless has a kit out for the 6.7's yet. I'm guessing you'll have a mini stroke when you do it. :lol: A lot of guys I know who are hard core into the 6.7's have ditched the 6.7 wiring and ecm and installed a 06.5-07.5 wiring and ecm to get them to perform where they want them. EFI live should be out for the 6.7's after a while so that would be cool. But they are almost done with the 06-07.5 5.9 version right now. It's your truck, your dream, so if a 6.7 is what you want then do it. Just be prepared to spend the big pesos to get there.

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LOL yeah.....Thats Just It... I Gotta Figure Out everything needed to do both.... First I Gotta Sell My Motor LOL, I've Got the Dana 60 for the 4x4 Conversion but I need all the other Parts for that....its Just a pick a part Up as I go here an there as I go while I save for the the motor....

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Which D60 do you have? Keep in mind that you will need to use a NP205 from a dodge, or a weak NP208 from a chevy, or re-clock any other tcase to use a GM D60.

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I'll have to look.... it was one from a Scrapper... he had a bunch but this one's missing somethings

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If it's a RH drop it's more than likely from a chevy or a pre 94 dodge.

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drop??

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Drive shaft drops on the RH side and feeds in to the diff.

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where the Pumpkin's at? cause yeah thats at the right hand side

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Yes sir. That's a RH drop. 94 up dodge are all LH drops. Just figured I'd let you know so you can plan according.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... I'll have to try an think this through now

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If you are having problems finding a 12 valve you ain't looking in the right places.Most of the 90s big fords f600 had a 12 valve in them the blue bird school buses the flat front end ones use it also.

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Round Here The Decent ones Get snapped up pretty quick and the flat Front School Buses aren't here.... its all Straight Truck style not cab-over.... i've Found Multiple partials but by the time I Spend buying partials to put one together I'll have spent that money in a decent 6.7

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You said it. Decent. :lol: There is a guy in Palymra that always has 12v's in various condition. I know where there is a 93 Dodge D250 that was rolled that has a rebuilt Dana 60, a 12v with a 518 auto, and pretty low mileage for $2500.

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Just from what I've seen, it seems like when you stick a diesel engine (especially a Cummins) on a pallet the price goes through the roof for some reason. Put that same motor in a rusted out truck thats not road worthy but the motor still runs great, and it's not so bad.

Looks for a truck that is wrecked or rusted. Buy the whole thing, pull what you need, sell the rest of the parts, then scrap it.

In terms of computer controlled engines, that is the ONLY way I would even think about swapping in a newer computer controlled diesel. It's just easier to have the whole vehicle and pull all you need, rather than trying to piece it together and paying an arm and a leg for it all separately.

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hence My questioning.... I'm thinking of just Buying a insurance Totaled New as I can Afford Dodge with the 6.7 and then scrapping what i don't use... Pyro... thats my exact logic...

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Good luck i have gone to a insurance auction or two trucks go sky high even totaled ones.Have you call around to any diesel shop and ask if they have a 12 valve?Have you tried ebay there is some 12 valves cheap enough to rebuild and have a good engine.

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Going With the 6.7 Cummins.... End Of Story... It Will Happen.... 1 Piece At a Time If I have to

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Just like the Johnny Cash song! I love it!

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Just save your money and give it time. The more time passes, the easier it will be to find a wrecked 6.7 truck. The key though, is to have the money when you find the deal. Good luck with it man.

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What year truck is it going in and 2wd or 4x4?

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88 GMC Classic Crew Cab Dually and I Will be Doing a 4x4 in it as well at the same time

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The motor mounts/ cross member you got a few options on http://www.avalancheengineering.com/new_products.html or http://www.tndieselpower.com/site/pr...ember-package/ http://www.autoworldmt.com/Page_11.html between autoworldmt and http://www.destroked.com/parts.php most of the parts are covered but the wiring of the ecu.Or they sell a standalone ecu for the 6.7 but its like 3800 lol.For a intercooler i heard the 99-04 powerstroke one fits these trucks pretty good.

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Thanks Man!!! It'll be One Piece atta Time Like I Said... and with time will come more motors will become available and the prices will become better so... That'll prolly be the final piece but I talked to my friends an they all said... yuppers you come to my garage and look... there'sa motor here..... a tranny there... till everythings there ya need and bam you Go to work!

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I have been looking for a square body 4x4 to do a 12 valve swap but most of these trucks here are rusted and beat to hell or high priced.Might end up getting a f250 to do it to just gotta get my savings up enough to start lol.

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6.7 and 5.9 are the same block btw

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I'ma end up with the 6.7.... Come Heck Or High Water..........................

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I won't try and talk you out of this cause you have your mind made up... because you sound EXACTLY like me when i start talking about a 5.9 swap to all my 454 gas guzzling loving buddies...

But for the love of god if you jump off this bridge, please make sure you have a camera handy and document the hell out of it...

This might be of interest to you... 6.7L swap Ihave combed threw that thread weighing my options between and 5.9 and 6.7... And that thread single handily convinced me to use a 12V