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A 68 Wreck 06-19-2012 05:34 PM

Tow Mirrors '68 C20
 
I cannot find a new set of tow mirrors that match my old rusty ones on my '68 Chevy C20!? They can be stainless or chrome, use the 3 point mounting, and have the rectangular mirror.
~8" from hole to hole on bottom, and up to the center top hole from either of the bottom holes, ~10".
Could use the help, thanks!

70chevytruck 06-19-2012 05:49 PM

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Me Too!!

SS Tim 06-19-2012 06:03 PM

Re: Tow Mirrors '68 C20
 
Please post a SPID RPO number and or a picture.

A 68 Wreck 06-19-2012 06:24 PM

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Hmm, these appear to have no #s, only rust...

Here is a website that has very similar mirrors. They are the Tripod version at the bottom left of page.
The dimensions of the holes is not given.

Thanks again.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/full.aspx?Page=77

70chevytruck 06-19-2012 06:43 PM

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What mine look like....
Attachment 943955

FirstOwner69 06-19-2012 08:54 PM

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Possibly like these, but I don't have the truck here to measure. These are original on a 69, but have a 4"-6" horizontal extension added to the mirror head elbow. Option code was DG4 These are not for sale. The LMC style mirrors are not very impressive. Better to look for some originals. The 71-72 tripod mirrors have a much smaller tripod with the same size mirror head.

Mayo 06-19-2012 09:02 PM

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I have a set of tripods that I am looking to get rid of. I can measure them tomorrow for you, I have been meaning to become a subscribing member anyways.

A 68 Wreck 06-19-2012 10:29 PM

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First, those are exactly what I am looking for, w/o the mirror extender. Tough to find.

Mayo, I would appreciate a measurment. Thanks.

My rusty ones are 8" and a hair from hole to hole between the bottom legs, and 10" froma bottom hole to the center hole... let me know what u have.

70cst 06-19-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 5443446)
Possibly like these, but I don't have the truck here to measure. These are original on a 69, but have a 4"-6" horizontal extension added to the mirror head elbow. Option code was DG4 These are not for sale. The LMC style mirrors are not very impressive. Better to look for some originals. The 71-72 tripod mirrors have a much smaller tripod with the same size mirror head.

Those are called "Below-Eye Line" mirrors. 69-70 were the same and 71-72 were the same. The 69-70 mirrors had longer legs ...

70cst 06-19-2012 10:38 PM

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These mirrors pop up often in the FS forums...

A 68 Wreck 06-19-2012 11:48 PM

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70CST,

What is the FS forum?

Thanks.

jocko 06-19-2012 11:49 PM

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that's the for sale forum, here's a link http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/f...ysprune=30&f=8

And here's a pic of 72 camper mirrors: (and by the way, I wanted to cry - I missed buying this custom camper by 12 hrs yesterday... :( it sold for $4500, or somewhere south of that figure - not a speck of rust anywhere). Snooze, ya looze.

A 68 Wreck 06-20-2012 12:07 AM

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Ouch. No rust is always a huge plus for me as I am no body builder!

My mirror brackets r 3 point triangle mounts. These are a bit bigger.

I think I'll try googlin' again tomorrow w/ "tripod" and "below eye" again...

if anyone knows of an wharehouse/on line mart/whatever, it would b appreciated.

til tomorrow!

jocko 06-20-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by A 68 Wreck (Post 5443889)
Ouch. No rust is always a huge plus for me as I am no body builder!

My mirror brackets r 3 point triangle mounts. These are a bit bigger.

I think I'll try googlin' again tomorrow w/ "tripod" and "below eye" again...

if anyone knows of an wharehouse/on line mart/whatever, it would b appreciated.

til tomorrow!

Ha! Yeah - I'm with ya, they are BIG..., I didn't say I actually LIKED these mirrors... They are butt ugly, but very functional. I'd probably have filled the holes and mounted sport mirrors and not worried about what was behind me beacuse I wouldn't have been able to see it anyway, painted over the faded paint (it was a horrible repaint over decent original patina). Didn't look like they even sanded before paint - but oh my was it ever straight and rust free... Ugh. Anyhoo! For some reason, really liked that truck. Here's a few more pics... (that camper would have saved me on some tag fees!!)

FirstOwner69 06-20-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 70cst (Post 5443693)
Those are called "Below-Eye Line" mirrors. 69-70 were the same and 71-72 were the same. The 69-70 mirrors had longer legs ...

I've seen SPIDs that call the mirrors "Below-Eye Line". However, mine are listed as "W/C Mirror-JR-LH&RH". I always translated that as West Coast Jr. mirrors left hand and right hand. Does anyone know when they changed the terminology on the SPID. Perhaps, in 71 when they went to the smaller tripod (shorter legs)?

Here's my SPID.

A 68 Wreck 06-20-2012 12:13 PM

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OK, got it. I shall check that SPID out, thanks!

Coboyle04 06-20-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 70chevytruck (Post 5443241)
What mine look like....
Attachment 943955

Are you looking for the old chevron style? Go to ryderfleetproducts.com
Part #600933 retrac west coast mirror head 6x16" polished aluminum with or without raised painted chevrons about 22$ each
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Coboyle04 06-20-2012 12:25 PM

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The other is 600932
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A 68 Wreck 06-20-2012 12:55 PM

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Hmmm, no SPID # for mirrors...

'68 327 C20

A 68 Wreck 06-20-2012 12:56 PM

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thanks coboy, i shall check it out.

70cst 06-20-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 5443923)
I've seen SPIDs that call the mirrors "Below-Eye Line". However, mine are listed as "W/C Mirror-JR-LH&RH". I always translated that as West Coast Jr. mirrors left hand and right hand. Does anyone know when they changed the terminology on the SPID. Perhaps, in 71 when they went to the smaller tripod (shorter legs)?

Here's my SPID.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...ure024-1-1.jpg

My SPID shows WC Mirrors but they are Below Eye Line Mirrors ...

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...t8-10121-1.jpg

SS Tim 06-20-2012 03:30 PM

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If you have tripods, they were added somewhere along the line. So your best bet is to match up pictures and measurements. There were a lot of aftermarket mirrors of the tripod type bought by people to update their trucks, some good and others were junk. Here is a pastup of the factory stock and RPO optional mirrors. Hope it helps and good hunting.

70cst 06-20-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 5445467)
If you have tripods, they were added somewhere along the line. So your best bet is to match up pictures and measurements. There were a lot of aftermarket mirrors of the tripod type bought by people to update their trucks, some good and others were junk. Here is a pastup of the factory stock and RPO optional mirrors. Hope it helps and good hunting.

Good point and info. :metal:

The Below Eye Line mirrirs came out as a 69 factory option I believe. Even though they were called West Coast mirrors.

Good catch :metal:

A 68 Wreck 06-20-2012 04:10 PM

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Definitely after market after perusing more web sites and reading all the above posts.
I'll keep poking around as I like these 7 x 10" mirror, "tripod" mounted ones.

Thanks all again!

FirstOwner69 06-20-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 70cst (Post 5445491)
Good point and info. :metal:

The Below Eye Line mirrirs came out as a 69 factory option I believe. Even though they were called West Coast mirrors.

Good catch :metal:

To reinforce this...

After I posted yesterday, I visited the archived info. at www.gmheritagecenter.com and found that the option description in the literature for the 69 mirrors was below eye line even though they were called West Coast Junior on our SPIDs. The 68 info. on the website had a different option number and the description was West Coast Junior (probably the same on the SPID). I bet the SPID description for at least 69 & 70 was just carried over from 68.

FirstOwner69 06-20-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by A 68 Wreck (Post 5445534)
Definitely after market after perusing more web sites and reading all the above posts.
I'll keep poking around as I like these 7 x 10" mirror, "tripod" mounted ones.

Thanks all again!

Perhaps your doors were replaced with later doors or the original holes welded and these mirrors added.

70cst 06-20-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 5445950)
To reinforce this...

After I posted yesterday, I visited the archived info. at www.gmheritage center.com and found that the option description in the literature for the 69 mirrors was below eye line even though they were called West Coast Junior on our SPIDs. The 68 info. on the website had a different option number and the description was West Coast Junior (probably the same on the SPID). I bet the SPID description for at least 69 & 70 was just carried over from 68.

Another interesting fact...
In 1970 the 396BB went to a 402 but on many SPID's the 402 in 1970 would be listed as a 396.

In 1970 the top option package was the CST (Custom Sport Truck) and in 1971 it was the Super Cheyenne (I think) ...but many times on the 1971 Trucks instead of the correct listing of Super Cheyenne it would be listed as a CST.

Go figure ...

jocko 06-20-2012 08:45 PM

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Ok, now I'm REALLY confused...
I always thought:

Sport/Standard mirrors were the smallest available - normally see them on non-tow rigs, etc. Look like pic #1 (it's a 72, and I realize the base model mirrors were different in 67-68, looked more like 66 and prior mirrors with round head).

Also, always thought WEST COAST and WEST COAST JR mirrors were the hoop style that Tim displayed pics of above - Pic #2 here, just to complete the set.

And finally, I always thought below eyeline mirrors were the monsters for campers (pic #3) and granted, they had different style tripods and leg lengths for diff years.

Are we saying that #3 is not a factory mirror? And that below eyeline (on a SPID) is actually another term for West Coast or West Coast jr??

MusicMan70 06-20-2012 08:46 PM

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My 70 spid description...

FirstOwner69 06-20-2012 08:55 PM

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jocko

I think what we are saying is that GM got their terminology all screwed up. There were 2 types of the large head mirrors (7.5" X 10.5", I think). One is the smaller tripod type we've been discussing. The others were called camper mirrors as posted by MusicMan.

Ahh... I think I feel the nit-picking Corvette restorer coming out in me!!!

70cst 06-20-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 5445981)
Ok, now I'm REALLY confused...
I always thought:

Sport/Standard mirrors were the smallest available - normally see them on non-tow rigs, etc. Look like pic #1 (it's a 72, and I realize the base model mirrors were different in 67-68, looked more like 66 and prior mirrors with round head).

Also, always thought WEST COAST and WEST COAST JR mirrors were the hoop style that Tim displayed pics of above - Pic #2 here, just to complete the set.

And finally, I always thought below eyeline mirrors were the monsters for campers (pic #3) and granted, they had different style tripods and leg lengths for diff years.

Are we saying that #3 is not a factory mirror? And that below eyeline (on a SPID) is actually another term for West Coast or West Coast jr??

The Below Eye Mirror is factory correct.

For some reason the SPID would list the factory Below Eye Line mirror as a West Coast Mirror when in fact it should have listed the mirror as Below Eye Line Mirror.

70cst 06-20-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 5446003)
jocko

I think what we are saying is that GM got their terminology all screwed up. There were 2 types of the large head mirrors (7.5" X 10.5", I think). One is the smaller tripod type we've been discussing. The others were called camper mirrors as posted by MusicMan.

Ahh... I think I feel the nit-picking Corvette restorer coming out in me!!!

:agree::ennyd::exit:

SS Tim 06-20-2012 09:25 PM

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Ok there were lots of mirrors both factory RPO and GM accessory. Plus aftermarket mirrors from many sources in many styles. This thread has diverted so far from the '68 baseline question that the answers become mirky and incomplete. My chart was for '68 and pretty much '67. The later trucks began using tripod (three point mirrors and the SPIDs called the WCjs for a while until "Below Eye Line" became the usual verbage. In addition to the tripods, Camper (four point) mirrors were introduced and the WCjr style went away with only the SRs being the HD truck mirror.
The camper mirrors are easy to distinguish with the four mounting points (or a common top mount) and heads that will swing inside or outside the verticle rotation point. This gives the daily "not too wide" and the all out camper "see anything" modes.

Mark the camper mirrors on the #3 truck are correct RPO DF2 and are the most common of the camper mirrors in a minimum width position.

We could all probably post up a bunch more pictures with "I've got this or that". But I don't see this getting a lot clearer. The problem seems to be people keying in on "mirror" without realizing the year to year variations which was not the root of this thread.

SS Tim 06-20-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 5446003)
...Ahh... I think I feel the nit-picking Corvette restorer coming out in me!!!

Reminds me of the drilled vs punched emblem holes over in the Camaro camp.... too much fun!

FirstOwner69 06-20-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 5446106)
Reminds me of the drilled vs punched emblem holes over in the Camaro camp.... too much fun!

...and the "TR", "WB", etc. bolt head markings on early Vettes. Yup, that was fun!

jocko 06-20-2012 09:57 PM

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Ok, got it, I am now a mirror officianado. Well, not quite, but I get it, and apparently am not losing my mind yet. Good news. Thanks guys!

PAWS 72 06-21-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by A 68 Wreck (Post 5443097)
I cannot find a new set of tow mirrors that match my old rusty ones on my '68 Chevy C20!? They can be stainless or chrome, use the 3 point mounting, and have the rectangular mirror.
~8" from hole to hole on bottom, and up to the center top hole from either of the bottom holes, ~10".
Could use the help, thanks!

Try campingworld or any camper place. I think that maybe the one's you are looking for.Also try,I don't think you want to hear this,maybe a f,,, f-250 or f-350 early to 1997 model.They had some nice mirrors that didn't rattel to bad.
I think the ones you are wanting will rattle more when you put them on aftermarket than factory.

Steve Hafner 06-21-2012 08:08 AM

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. . . .

The mirrors I bought for my 70's restoration from J C Whitney are the closest I could find that looked like the 1970 "camper mirrors".

They ARE butt-ugly, but at least I'll be able to see around a boat that's eight feet wide.

. . . .

Mayo 06-21-2012 04:45 PM

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My extra set is the tripod kind, but the bottom holes are about 11 1/2 inches apart.

A 68 Wreck 06-21-2012 07:41 PM

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Thanks All.

Mayo, you appear to have the larger, more common, true Chevy ones.

I have to think mine are after market, and were once quite nice.

Ill keep checking the FS fourm/listings.

Thanks again...


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