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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 04:29 PM

Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out
 
So POed. Probably didn't need them anyway, because I have a nice set, but I'd have used these, because they were perfect in every way. They did a real nice job packing to ensure no scratches, but only one problem. What a shame, these are hard to find and they jacked em up.

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BigMike 11-09-2015 05:09 PM

Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out
 
Wow! Just Wow! That sucks. I'd be PO'd too. Were they insured?

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMike (Post 7370338)
Wow! Just Wow! That sucks. I'd be PO'd too. Were they insured?

Got them off Ebay/Paypal. I managed to sneak in JUST the right amount and out-bid the guy by 50 cents ($152.50) That was "lucky". I can't tell if insured, was shipped UPS.

Of course the box is bent. I don't even want to pay for shipping.

In fairness to the seller (sorta), these are as difficult to pack safely as anything. You pretty much have to put a box(es) within a box. Soft cardboard won't cut it.

MARKDTN 11-09-2015 05:25 PM

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UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 05:29 PM

Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARKDTN (Post 7370351)
UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

You think? I'll contact, just to see. Thanks

67ChevyRedneck 11-09-2015 05:30 PM

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Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

cleszkie 11-09-2015 05:30 PM

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I always ship trim items like these in a PVC pipe with end caps, and ask sellers to do the same for me. Its the only way to do it. Cardboard boxes don't have a chance.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 05:41 PM

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I just called UPS.......They're going to pick it up and determine liability from there. Thanks.

Ha!, just read ChevyRednecks post. No doubt you're right. The seller doesn't stand a chance. Chair is real confy. Prefer clothe though. Beggers can't be choosy, my parents gave it to me.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cleszkie (Post 7370359)
I always ship trim items like these in a PVC pipe with end caps, and ask sellers to do the same for me. Its the only way to do it. Cardboard boxes don't have a chance.

Understood, but you'd need at least a 6" pipe. Not they aren't available.

too much stuff 11-09-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 7370380)
Understood, but you'd need at least a 6" pipe. Not they aren't available.

A piece of 6" pipe looks cheap now compared to junk NOS parts. I have shipped items similar to this in smaller pvc pipe with an elbow where the bends are.
Good luck with UPS, you will need it!

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by too much stuff (Post 7370479)
A piece of 6" pipe looks cheap now compared to junk NOS parts. I have shipped items similar to this in smaller pvc pipe with an elbow where the bends are.
Good luck with UPS, you will need it!

True story..........UPS isn't going to do (*^(*. Self-interest or not, they weren't packed right. I should be covered regardless (Ebay + Paypal + 14 day return policy). With any luck I won't have to pay for shipping either.

Great idea with the elbow BTW. You wouldn't want to put in on much or you jack it up pulling it apart.

Joesjunk 11-09-2015 07:55 PM

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What a shame, sorry to see your NOS parts bent up! And just my 2 cents, I HATE UPS! I see them mess up more stuff! I never ship with them unless I have no other option. The post office seems so much better. UPS sucks and they don't give a crap about your stuff. My rant, I'm done.
Good luck

Kennuck 11-09-2015 08:30 PM

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Too bad about your NOS trim, I hope it works out for you.

I ordered these from MAR K they shipped them taped to a pc of 3/4" thick pine, then wrapped that in a cardboard sleeve and placed inside a heavy cardboard box. I guess they have lots of experience shipping stuff like this.

I also got some NOS lower trim from a member on here and he shipped them in a plastic pipe.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-09-2015 09:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennuck (Post 7370632)
Too bad about your NOS trim, I hope it works out for you.

I ordered these from MAR K they shipped them taped to a pc of 3/4" thick pine, then wrapped that in a cardboard sleeve and placed inside a heavy cardboard box. I guess they have lots of experience shipping stuff like this.

I also got some NOS lower trim from a member on here and he shipped them in a plastic pipe.

I have as well. I've got a 8' pipe in my "parts room" containing upper bed moldings.

It really is a shame. They were perfect. Still haven't heard from the guy. He can't/won't be happy.

I've got another set of separators. They're beautiful. One wasn't quite straight, possibly from shipping. It's straight now for certain, I wrapped the straight portion with thick cardboard both sides. The RH has a slight bend on the edge/inside/underneath. I think it will still slide in, but want an extra, just in case.

Elliot949 11-09-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 7370358)
Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....



And that is after jerking you around for 6 months... and the appeal...

davischevy 11-09-2015 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesjunk (Post 7370583)
What a shame, sorry to see your NOS parts bent up! And just my 2 cents, I HATE UPS! I see them mess up more stuff! I never ship with them unless I have no other option. The post office seems so much better. UPS sucks and they don't give a crap about your stuff. My rant, I'm done.
Good luck

I'm still not sure I understand how you feel about UPS Joe. :lol:

EARNHARDT#3 11-09-2015 11:09 PM

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There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

davischevy 11-09-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EARNHARDT#3 (Post 7370824)
There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

What I was thinking. But someone should still pay for the damage.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-10-2015 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EARNHARDT#3 (Post 7370824)
There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

Probably. I don't know any at this point.

F.A.A.benny 11-10-2015 02:14 AM

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Sucks. that's why I try to watch what I get from ebay. A lot of sellers don't know how to properly pack and use shipping boxes that are too small for the part(s). In this case. it needed to be a shipping tube or pvc. It really is the responsibility of the seller until it arrives at your doorstep to make sure that the part(s) isn't damaged. Ebay favors buyers so you should come out on top although it sucks to have to go through the hassle and still not get what you wanted. As far shipping providers go. I personally cant stand the post office. It almost seems like having a bad attitude is part of their job requirement. And they have actually lost parts I shipped even with a tracking #. Usp is ok but too expensive. FedEx ftw

special-K 11-10-2015 08:38 AM

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It's clear the responsibility lies on the seller who obviously did not package these precious parts in any manner of concern what so ever. They got their money and that's all that matters. They shouldn't even be allowed to sell N.O.S. I would take this up with PayPal and get my full refund and screw the jerk who packages parts with no concern. What Ebay seller out there would not be aware of UPS's track record of denying responsibility based on insufficient packaging?

GMCNUT 11-10-2015 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 7370358)
Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

couldn't have said it better myself - UPS requires 4" of dense foam material around a packaged item before it will pay out on insurance claims. America at large is simply not told and generally doesn't know this when buying insurance. The UPS Store is the only way to fly when you care about what is coming to you because they are in charge of packaging and shipping it. PVC pipe and carpet tubes are good for shipping trim - not much else can hold up to the warehouse and truck loading throwing around the shipping companies do

CUSTOM/10 11-10-2015 01:48 PM

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I'd be Heartbroken; I've been looking for a pair of those myself. A few yrs back I had a pair of rust free Cali. doors shipped to NH via Greyhound bus, and they were all dented & bent when they got here. I was sick, did a claim through Greyhound and they said "Insufficient Packaging". Whenever I ship something I made it Bomb Proof.

Gary

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-11-2015 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARKDTN (Post 7370351)
UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

So far, this turned out to be a great suggestion from a buyer's standpoint. First, unless UPS sends me a bill (likely not), then I got out of shipping costs. Second, it shows good faith.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-25-2015 07:19 PM

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This Ebay seller has turned out to be a treat. I contacted him three times before I heard back. The parts were delivered to him a week ago, and I contacted him again for refund status, and not a word back. He's listed items since, so safe to say I'm on ignore.

Ebay gives him until tomorrow before they process the refund. I figure a bad rating is in order.

davepl 11-25-2015 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 7370358)
Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

My stainless bed trim had a subtle shipping bend that I've learned to live with, so I feel his pain.

To be fair, it is possible to package this stuff cheaply and properly (I've ordered a whole car's worth of side trim) in a Schedule 40 PVC pipe, etc. If it's packed insufficiently, then I don't think UPS should be on the hook, do you?

Now if it's brain-dead obviously packaged well enough and got run over by a truck, that's different, but I doubt that happened here.

Based on the packages I've received from eBay sellers over the years, I'd wager most of the times UPS says it was improperly packaged, it probably was.

Had a guy offer to ship me broken stuff and claim it (there's a whole Seinfeld episode on that topic). Didn't even know me, and like we were going to conspire to defraud the shipper!

Clavo106 11-25-2015 08:34 PM

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I got my drag link in a pvc pipe. the end of the pipe was completely broken off..

In The Ten Ring 11-25-2015 08:52 PM

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Fight it. UPS damaged (dented badly) a 1971 OEM fender I bought on here and had shipped from CA.

They finally agreed to pay for a body shop to fix it but I had to kick a little out. I ended up not using the fender and will later sell it.

Now I DEMAND any part (easily bent) be shipped in a wooden crate or I won't buy. In some cases I just drive a long ways to pick it up.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 11-27-2015 07:12 PM

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Never did hear back from the seller. Ebay processed a full refund, and I left a bad review.

I won't give the guy's user ID, but he features a somewhat large assortment of automotive collectibles, and he's a fan of Chevy.

In The Ten Ring 11-27-2015 07:56 PM

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Could you PM us? Might save us a headache ourselves!

davepl 11-27-2015 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clavo106 (Post 7388981)
I got my drag link in a pvc pipe. the end of the pipe was completely broken off..

I said Schedule 40 because it's pretty thick - made for pressure, not just as a drain pipe, so it's stronger. Which isn't to say that it wasn't already Sched40, or that Sched40 would have lived, but it's tougher than the basic pipe.

Crabass 11-30-2015 08:27 PM

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I just erased my initial (harsh but honest) reaction to this post and toning this way down out of fear of liability/retaliation, legal or otherwise.

From years of seeing packages come in to the facilities I worked at, my perception of service, from best to worst, is FedEx, USPS, UPS. If I order or ship something other than an anvil I do so with this rating in mind.

I am in no way affiliated with any of these concerns.


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