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thorne101 01-19-2009 09:26 PM

4 inch lift questions
 
im looking at a 4in lift with springs, blocks and shocks, what all do i have to change or lengthen to do this, will i have to do anything with the drive shaft of the steering thanks for the help

Wreckless_71 01-20-2009 12:39 AM

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Drop link is recommended... also i would recommend longer front brake lines. I have the stock ones on my project right now and I think I will end up switching to longer ones... besides that I think that's it.

Yukon Jack 01-20-2009 10:32 AM

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What year vehicle are you asking about. You will find there are no definites.

With a 4 inch lift your driveshafts should be fine, but occasionally there is an issue.

I did have an issue with the initial 4" lift I did on my 69 K20 - the front driveshaft was too short and I ended up having to add a Double Cardon Joint also.

Depending on the year of vehicle usually a raised steering arm is recommended to get your steering back to near stock. If you dealing with a 69 or older, you will need an adjustable drop drag link as a raised steering arm isn't available for the axle used in a 69 or older truck.

Mudder 01-20-2009 11:58 AM

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Most kits give you a bracket for lowering your brake lines. New stainless are pretty nice to have.

special-K 01-20-2009 03:32 PM

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Most lift kits include the steering arm you`d need and the steering absolutely needs addressed.I recommend a steering armover a drag link.The brake lines are a definate thing to address,too,but the relocation brackets that Mudder is talking about do the trick.I`ve never had to lengthen a ront driveshaft for 4".I suggest completing the lit and inspecting.When truckis sitting level the spline should have anout equal travel in and out.Take notice/mark the yoke/spline relation before and compare to after.

duallyjams 01-20-2009 09:22 PM

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I would include a steering stabilizer.

thorne101 01-20-2009 10:14 PM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
it is a 72 thanks for all the good info im still looking into this to decide if this is the way i want to go yet or not thanks tony

jkade 01-20-2009 10:16 PM

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Just get a steering arm and that is all you will need. I ran a 4" lift with just the arm for 4 years with no problems. Now if you are going to be flexing the suspension a lot I would do the front brake lines.

Dean 01-21-2009 10:43 AM

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I've got the brake hose part numbers if you are doing a K20.

Mike C 01-22-2009 09:33 PM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
Skip the middle step and go ahead and get springs. The blocks stink. I bent both perches on my axle housing and had all sorts of wheel hop issues. Save a little more now, and only have to do job once.

shakedown96 01-23-2009 01:44 PM

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I am doing the same thing with my 71 K10 I was looking at these:

http://www.ntwonline.com/67-72_GM_Su...cials_C782.cfm

using the top one and not using the blocks but using this:

http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/shacklekit.htm

it is the best in my opinon if your going to use the truck.

xbanone 01-24-2009 02:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakedown96 (Post 3103502)
I am doing the same thing with my 71 K10 I was looking at these:

http://www.ntwonline.com/67-72_GM_Su...cials_C782.cfm

I always wonder who manufactures those NTW "suspension specials", anyone know?

72chevyk10 01-26-2009 10:47 PM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
my '72 didnt need the longer brake lines but probly would under heavy articulation(sp?)

NYC-10 01-27-2009 08:00 AM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
I just installed a 4" BDS lift kit,all spring.I got a new steering arm and ordered ss brake lines that are 4" longer.looks like the e-brake cables are a little tight,I may remove them

xbanone 01-29-2009 03:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC-10 (Post 3110277)
I just installed a 4" BDS lift kit,all spring.I got a new steering arm and ordered ss brake lines that are 4" longer.looks like the e-brake cables are a little tight,I may remove them

How do you like the ride of the BDS set up? I hear rear springs ride rougher than blocks.

NYC-10 01-29-2009 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xbanone (Post 3113879)
How do you like the ride of the BDS set up? I hear rear springs ride rougher than blocks.

Didn't drive it yet but I will let you know

76PasoGMC 02-09-2009 05:37 AM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
Not to hijack this thread but are real life opinions on the different brands of lift. I am more concered with ride. Which 4" all spring kit rides the best?

special-K 02-09-2009 06:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xbanone (Post 3113879)
How do you like the ride of the BDS set up? I hear rear springs ride rougher than blocks.

Blocks don`t change the ride.You just have the same springs with a space between them and the axle.

Joey~AP 02-10-2009 01:08 PM

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I did a junkyard lift on my son's that came out to about 4"....maybe more.

First.....I went to the junkyard and got some 52" springs off the back of an 80's Chevy truck. I also got the front hangers for the rear springs.

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Cost was about $50.

This is the rear suspension that I started with.

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Joey~AP 02-10-2009 01:16 PM

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I removed the rear hanger and drilled the holes out to 7/16". I then took the hangers that I got from the junkyard and mounted them.

I used grade 8 7/16" hardware to replace the rivets.

Kind of makes a shackle flip.

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The above is not the shackle angle that I left it at.

I wanted longer shackles....which they dont make for Chevy's cause of the reverse shackles, so I found a set of lowering shackles that worked just fine! :D

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I did have to get new brakelines.

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Joey~AP 02-10-2009 01:23 PM

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For the front I used the 52" leafs from the rar of the junkyard Chevy.

THis gets a little tricky, because you have to move the front hangers, move the rear hangers and locate or build some 7-1/4" shackles.

Old springs compared to new springs....

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Original location...

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New location...

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You can see the old hole location of where the rear spring hanger used to be. I think I moved it forward a little more than an inch.

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Joey~AP 02-10-2009 01:27 PM

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Then I had to make some shackles...

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Russell 02-10-2009 01:27 PM

Re: 4 inch lift questions
 
Well done on the lift! That truck will ride smoother and articulate better than any lift spring possibly could. And it is done safely, which is key!

Joey~AP 02-10-2009 01:35 PM

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I cleaned the springs up and poainted them. Also cut the overloads.

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Front required longer brake lines, too.

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Put in a Pro Comp 4" steerin hootus to correct the tie rod angle.

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Almost finished product.

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Jtrux 02-10-2009 01:44 PM

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I think you should do a more in depth build thread on that, I bet you'll have a lot of people trying to look fo this for possible future builds.


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