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prg machine 05-11-2009 11:39 AM

Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
Has anyone changed the pinion seal on one of these? After I remove the Yoke does the seal come out with the front retainer plate?

Yukon Jack 05-11-2009 03:02 PM

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When I thought my pinion seal was leaking I posted this thread that will help you out - ended up not being a pinion problem for me so I didn't have to do anything further.

hicktownhotrodder 05-11-2009 04:37 PM

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i have done this on my rear end. as i remember, it does not come out with it. its a real easy swap.:chevy:

Wrenchbender Ret 05-11-2009 05:52 PM

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After removeing the yoke remove the retainer & you can replace the seal in the retainer. It takes a thick cork gasket behind it but you can use a thick bead of RTV.

prg machine 05-13-2009 11:42 AM

Re: Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
sounds like 2 different answers. If I got it......I remove the yoke.....remove the retainer and the seal is pressed into the retainer and I have the retainer out to take to do it at the work bench???

Shaky 05-13-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
It's really worth getting your paws on an Overhaul Manual if you can.

prg machine 05-13-2009 08:04 PM

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I have shelves full of manuals and lotsa wrenching experience. I always ask before I dive in anyway.

hicktownhotrodder 05-13-2009 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hicktownhotrodder (Post 3304474)
i have done this on my rear end. as i remember, it does not come out with it. its a real easy swap.:chevy:

no. my bad. Wrenchbender Ret was right. take the retainer out and the seals in there:dum:

prg machine 05-14-2009 12:58 AM

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Thanks a bunch guys. Now to order up the seal and get the pen oil out and let it soak up.................I have had to use a chisel as a driver to get some of these nuts loose before on the Jeeps when things got brutal.......then just replace the nuts since they are not that expensive.

prg machine 08-22-2009 01:34 PM

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Finaly got tired of the leak so I called and there were 2 seals at the store . 20 bucks. Now to get around to actualy doing it!!!! Who has had to actualy do the speedy sleave repair and how much of a pain is that if i need to get into it???

prg machine 08-23-2009 03:16 AM

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The Banty rooster agrees

prg machine 09-19-2009 10:31 PM

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got up the nerve today. Borrowed the 1 5/8 socket and heavy ratchet and breaker bar and a homemade yoke wrench to hold it while i stood on a 6 foot cheater and jumped up and down to free nut. Then the yoke came out very tight on the splines ( a good thing) and I pulled all of the bolts holding the ring on the front. I left it on and stuffed a rag in where the yoke was to kep stuff out of the inside and looked over the seal ride. Not too bad but needs a little work polishing up. \

Is it possible to reposition the seal to run on a different area?? sure would be nice.

Shaky 09-20-2009 08:21 AM

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Might be able to find a speedi-sleeve that fits.

prg machine 09-21-2009 08:25 PM

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HELP!!!!


The pinion bearings are pretty darn warm and feels like a brake dragging ..............


I am desperately looking for a diagram of the rear assembly to figure out if i have the bearing preload too tight by changing gasket on the retainer behind the yoke. I cleaned it good and cut a new gasket. The new material is like .015 thick and the old about .032/ Is the end play being affected on the pinion bearings????

I can't find a book here they are all in storage preparing to move.

I am bummed.

prg machine 09-21-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
I found a HO52 diagram online and it appears that the bearing load is set by a spacer in front of the front timken cone that is pushed by the yoke when it is installed. I am assuming now that the preload is not affected by the retainer cap at all. Maybe what I feel is okay for temp?? I can put my hand on it,,,,,,,,,,,,but it feels pretty warm after 25 miles. Any experts on this???

prg machine 09-21-2009 09:23 PM

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anyone?

prg machine 09-21-2009 09:49 PM

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Everything I am finding indicates that the preload on the pinion bearings happens with a spacer between the 2 inner races. Correct me if i am wrong... Maybe the rear end just gets pretty warm????

prg machine 09-21-2009 10:12 PM

Re: Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
I went out there under the truck and with e-brake on and truck in gear I can just rotate the driveline slightly clockwise/counterclockwise indicating the slight gear clearance that it has always had. I can turn the yoke effortlessly. nothing binding, just like it was when I checked it before bolting up the driveline to the yoke . I think the heat thing is just normal.

prg machine 09-21-2009 11:02 PM

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ttt

prg machine 09-22-2009 11:42 AM

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Bearing housing barely warm this morning.....................brake drum hot! Dragging brake.............Did i tweak something with E-brake on and torquing up the pinion nut??? I used a yoke tool to hold it when tightening nut.

Eichorst69 09-22-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Eaton Rear axle pinion seal.
 
The Eaton is pretty simple. The preload on the pinion is controled by the pinion shims. If all you did was replace the pinion seal and did not remove the shims then just retorque the nut to about 220 ft lbs. You should be able to turn the pinion back and forth freely between the backlash. The shims also have an effect on the ring gear back lash. The retainig plate gasket won't make a difference.
Once I ran into a problem when I used a different yoke due to the original yoke having grooves where the seal makes contact, apparently there was a slight difference which caused the preload to be to tight so I had to change the shims. Hope this helps.

prg machine 09-22-2009 03:37 PM

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Yea it is running just barely warm now.......maybe had to take a set. The drag feeling is a dragging brake.


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