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fun in dirt 08-05-2009 10:40 AM

8 lug stud spacing
 
I found this killer dealer on a set of wheels http://northmiss.craigslist.org/pts/1305110606.html , but don't the 8 lugs for '99 F250 use that 170?mm stud spacing instead of 6.5"? I really wish they would fit...is there any way it could work?

ghettoluxury 08-05-2009 10:59 AM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Correct they are 170mm. The only way it will work is with adapters

Dieselwrencher 08-05-2009 08:22 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
I saw one time where a guy that had a sweet 91 F-350 had 02 super duty 8 lug alloy wheels on it. The guy owned a machine shop and machined the wheels and added an offset slug that he also machined and was able to bolt the wheels to his standard truck. It seems like a lot of work though.

MickMc 08-11-2009 12:47 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
It seems to me that 6.5 inch bolt diameter pattern is 165.1mm
And 170mm is 6.69 inch
Therefore the difference in diameter is only .095 inch

10 thousandths is not very much


If my math is correct

The more important question will be if the backspacing is correct.
The high offset wheels have a problem clearing early tie rods and brakes and...


Just my two cents


Mick

Dieselwrencher 08-11-2009 05:42 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Good input Mick.

LONGHAIR 08-11-2009 07:07 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MickMc (Post 3458767)
It seems to me that 6.5 inch bolt diameter pattern is 165.1mm
And 170mm is 6.69 inch
Therefore the difference in diameter is only .095 inch

10 thousandths is not very much


If my math is correct



Just my two cents


Mick

Your metric conversion math is absolutely correct...but the difference is more than you are thinking.
5 millimeters is essentually 3/16"
The difference (english) between 6.5 and 6.69.....is .190 (not .095)
.190 is close enough to 3/16" (.187)
So, what it all comes down to is....does 3/16 matter? IMHO, yes. The wheel "might" physically fit over the lug studs, but the nuts will never tighten properly. They will bind on the edges of the taper before seating. THis will stress the studs.

Of course all of this is moot if the off-set doesn't "work"

Blazer1970 08-11-2009 07:18 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
If you tried to run those Ford wheels on an 8 on 6 1/2" hub, the lug nuts would come loose on one side of the truck very quickly.

ghettoluxury 08-11-2009 07:20 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
I once had a set of 170 mm rims on a 6.5in 8lug chevy (because I was told they were 6.5in) and it had a wicked hop going down the road. So your answer is yes it does make a differance, and belive me when I say this, it is unsafe.

MickMc 08-12-2009 10:58 AM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR (Post 3459393)
Your metric conversion math is absolutely correct...but the difference is more than you are thinking.
5 millimeters is essentually 3/16"
The difference (english) between 6.5 and 6.69.....is .190 (not .095)
.190 is close enough to 3/16" (.187)
So, what it all comes down to is....does 3/16 matter? IMHO, yes. The wheel "might" physically fit over the lug studs, but the nuts will never tighten properly. They will bind on the edges of the taper before seating. THis will stress the studs.

Of course all of this is moot if the off-set doesn't "work"

Yes the difference is .190 but you have to divide by 2 because we are talking about a circle (1/2 as much on each side) so that's how I got .095.

Again all of this math. The real world is something different.

I did bolt on a set of late model wheels on my early model dana 60 no problems with the lug pattern but the offset stopped everything.

10 thousandths is not much in a 6.5 inch diameter space, but are late model truck wheels hub centric or lug centric?



Mick

Blazer1970 08-12-2009 05:29 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MickMc (Post 3460490)
Yes the difference is .190 but you have to divide by 2 because we are talking about a circle (1/2 as much on each side) so that's how I got .095.

Again all of this math. The real world is something different.

I did bolt on a set of late model wheels on my early model dana 60 no problems with the lug pattern but the offset stopped everything.

Late model GM or Dodge wheels still use the same old 8 on 6 1/2" bolt circle. Late model GM 8 lug wheels will bolt up and work no problem. The issue is with Ford wheels which are 8 on 170mm.

10 thousandths is not much in a 6.5 inch diameter space, but are late model truck wheels hub centric or lug centric?

That is almost 100 thou, or a 10th of an inch. That is a lot. Ford wheels will not work on a GM truck without some kind of modification as someone described above. GM truck wheels are all hub-centric, but any 8 lug wheel with the correct bolt circle will work regardless of center hole diameter (as long as the hole is bigger than the hub).


Mick

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MickMc 08-12-2009 05:55 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazer1970 (Post 3461069)
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Blazer1970
OK 10 thousandths is to much and therefore Ford wheels will not fit on 6.5 inch diameter bolt patterns.



Mick

1969 GMC 08-14-2009 01:49 PM

Re: 8 lug stud spacing
 
Have a machine shop drill a new 8x6.5 pattern in between the 8x170 holes.


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