Long tube header question
 

If I run longs tubes how low can I drop the frontend without the headers draging on everything?

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you can't ......I think the best solution is these then you can tuck things up pretty easy

http://www.kmjent.com/cart/product.p...8&cat=0&page=1

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I have long tube headers on mine and they don,t drag, I have 4 inch drop up front, but I runing 20 inch wheeels.

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good point...now much drop are we talking here

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Sure, a shorty header is better than manifolds, but I wouldn't run those unless the world was coming to an end, and they were the last headers on earth.

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Ummmm...WOW...ummm why not they clear everything and get your exhaust above your frame rails..or is it a brand issue??

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its a money deal I have a set of long tubes and I want to drop it 3" so not sure what I should do

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I am running Long tubes with a 4 1/2inch front and 5inch rear drop and I have to be careful with speed bumps even going up into my garage slight incline the cement is uneven by alittle and hits the collecter,My temp fix is a 1/2inch piece of plywood that I drive up on the passenger side each time I go in and out of the garage:lol:. If I knew how to weld I would cut 1 or 1 1/2 inches off each tube of the headders to bring them up, I think thats all I would need.

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It's a performance issue. I don't care who makes them, shorty headers are just a step above ram horns.

See below for example. I'm sure this is one of many similar articles out there proving this point.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...ers/index.html

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I'm kind of curious about this issue as well...

oh, and it seems those Gibson shorty headers are a very exteme example. The ones in that other link look more like mid-length, similar to Thorley Tri-Y's....

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so my new hugger headers would just be simply like running stock manifolds then ? vs long tube headers? that are causing a problem with lowering our trucks.

I had long tubes before when I had a 4" drop and they just about dragged every place. so I went to huggers and haven't tested them as of yet. but not that I would be out of money cause they was free lol.

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Yep... headers are all about scavenging exhaust gasses quickly. Shorty's defeat the purpose.

I have plain ol' Heddman Street Hedders, full length... they tuck up along the frame pretty nice. They're the ones I'll be using when I drop the rear 4" and the fron about 2".

My Dad has the same headers on his 1970 C10 and that thing is lowered 5" in the back, and close to 3" in front. They don't drag...

Gary

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Well I have a set of flowtechs and I hope when I install they dont hang to low below the frame I want 2 1/2 drop spindles and 1" coils

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this is my issue I want the horsepower and no back pressure but then I dont want the headers to hang lower then the frame due to I am going to have 2 1/2 drop spindles and 3" drop coils in front. so that maybe an issue with headers unless I guess I fab my own or someone already sales them to not hang to much below the frame.

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I tried Flowtechs on a 1967 C10 awhile back. The thing I didn't like about them is they have a slight downward angle at the very short collector. Made hooking up the exhaust a pain as I had to notch the tube slighty to get them to line up right.

They also dragged on speedbumps after I lowered it.

Gary

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I had Hedmen's long tube headers on my 72. It has a 3 front/5 rear drop....

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...9/DSCN1939.jpg

I plan on going lower so I changed the headers to Thorley's Tri Y headers....

Before

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...9/DSCN2207.jpg

After

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...9/DSCN2211.jpg

I also cut the rear cross member to run the exhaust through it....

Here is a picture of them side by side, you can see how much longer the Hedmans are:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...9/DSCN2209.jpg

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Strut I am not sure its the pictures or not but in those pictures it looks to be as if those Thorley's Tri Y headers still stick down just as low below that tranny pan and frame as the Hedmans headers ?

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The ones Big Al has on his truck do not hang down at all.

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They do hang down, but there not near as low as the Hedmans. They dont hang down past the front cross member like the Hedmans.... These Thorley headers are the same part# as BigAls....

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ok awesome just what I was wanting to know thank you

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yeah, if you look at those photos relating how low they are to the A-arms, it looks like those Tri-Y's give you quite a bit more clearance compared to that lower most primary on the Hedman's.

Also something else I'm kind of wondering is, what is the primary diameter on those Hedmans? 1 3/4"? Might have been a bit too much for your motor, stealing low-end and putting it up top. Might notice some good low-end gains with those more mid-length and smaller dia. 1 5/8" primary Thorleys.

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Yep, the Tri-Y's are what I run too, and they definitely don't hang as low as the hookers I had on there before.

Might sell them though for some 1 3/4" long tubes to go with the 383. Still haven't decided. Not sure if it's worth it... leaning towards keeping the Tri-Y's.

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I found some headers as I was doing some searching maybe you all can do something with these for laying frame also http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...%20Headers.htm

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nice find! Those look very tucked!

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Yeah I am thinking on getting those my self, wow they are pricey any more for headers.