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john68c10 10-28-2023 03:37 PM

Squeak !!
 
Okay, 68 C10 Shortbed Fleetside...not that any of that matters...

Front Driver's Wheel Squeaks during rotation (drum brakes). Squeaks with drum ON...does not squeak with drum OFF...so, it's not a wheel bearing. New brakes, new rotor, new bearings, new springs...etc.. Everything is greased that should be. Nothing is greased that should NOT be.

Squeak changes when brake is applied (mutes approximately 50%) but does not disappear.

Visually, everything looks right. Brakes were a little tight on this wheel...but only a little...backed that off to be correct, and squeak is lessened, but not gone...

I'm suspecting my NEW drum is not perfect. Opinions ?

What's next ? Try another (new) drum ? Do it all again ?

geezer#99 10-28-2023 04:10 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Swap front drums side to side.
If the noise goes to the right it’s the drum.

dmjlambert 10-28-2023 04:46 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
If you have the drum off to do what geezer#99 suggests, take a picture of it and post here and that will put more eyes on it so we can see a spring or lever may be assembled incorrectly. Drive it for a couple hundred miles (or at least a few dozen) and see if it goes away.

geezer#99 10-28-2023 06:16 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Check the cotter key on the castle nut isn’t contacting the dust cap also.

yuccales 10-29-2023 11:07 AM

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See if this "cup" is just barely scraping the drum.

john68c10 10-29-2023 11:58 AM

Re: Squeak !!
 
I'll revisit these suggestions next weekend when I'm back in the garage. You've all given me some food for thought. I'll be sure to report back with results...

john68c10 11-04-2023 06:19 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Okay, getting back into this...I checked all the kotter pins and made sure that none of them were contacting the cover...but don't think that was it.

I switched the drums out and didn't notice anything...trouble is that the noise doesn't show up cold...but only after about a mile or two of driving does it begin...

Here's some pics to see if anyone can see anything I missed...

https://i.postimg.cc/508XRRd0/IMG-20...-165452736.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/J0qG1HhC/IMG-20...-170959500.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Y0kvKzMx/IMG-20...-171016836.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/59qH5TSK/IMG-20...-171040855.jpg

john68c10 11-05-2023 12:44 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
pulled checked and repacked the bearings...all looked well and each small bearing cylinder spun easily with fingers. Squeak remains...Not sure where to look now.

From this point, I feel like I'd just be throwing parts at it.

geezer#99 11-05-2023 01:07 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
I can’t see in your pics but did you put a dab of grease on the raised bumps on the backing plate where the shoe slides?

HotWheelsFan 11-05-2023 01:36 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Aye, may be squeaking from lack of lube at shoe contacts or hardware.

Bob

john68c10 11-05-2023 02:04 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 9256567)
I can’t see in your pics but did you put a dab of grease on the raised bumps on the backing plate where the shoe slides?

Yes, I did

geezer#99 11-05-2023 03:06 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
New studs.
Do you have one that has a slightly taller head? Could make contact somewhere when hub warms up.
Otherwise have you tried swapping shoes front to back.

Shortnwide4x4 11-05-2023 03:47 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
sorry, i was incorrect. delete. I made a reference to shoe orientation

yuccales 11-05-2023 05:08 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Your dust caps look dented in. Could you take them off for a quick test run and see if the squeak goes away? Good luck! ;)

john68c10 11-05-2023 07:32 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 9256600)
New studs.
Do you have one that has a slightly taller head? Could make contact somewhere when hub warms up.
Otherwise have you tried swapping shoes front to back.

No, and they are far away from contacting anything... so that can't be it.

john68c10 11-05-2023 07:36 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yuccales (Post 9256626)
Your dust caps look dented in. Could you take them off for a quick test run and see if the squeak goes away? Good luck! ;)

Just tried that...nope...

Getter-Done 11-05-2023 08:08 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Are the backing plate rubbing the drums ?

dmb 11-05-2023 08:51 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
the back plate is kind of ratty looking, may be hitting the drum

john68c10 11-05-2023 09:12 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 9256670)
Are the backing plate rubbing the drums ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb (Post 9256681)
the back plate is kind of ratty looking, may be hitting the drum

I'll check that in the morning...

dmjlambert 11-05-2023 10:07 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
If that's the culprit and straightening them doesn't work out, I have some 1969 backing plates for cheap here: https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=846346

john68c10 11-06-2023 10:10 AM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Well, it looks like it was the backing plate. There's a small inward dent at the top. I moved it some and the squeak went 90% quieter. So, I'll take that off this next weekend and see how that goes.

Getter-Done 11-06-2023 10:23 PM

Re: Squeak !!
 
Good to hear.

A punch and small Dremel tool may save some teardown process.

Just cover the shaft and use cleaner to clear and remove any metal shavings.

:chevy::chevy::chevy:


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