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Old 10-13-2006, 04:22 PM   #1
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Bags just on the rear?

I have a 71 Short Fleet and want to do a 4/5 drop. I plan on using drop spindles and 2" lower springs in the front. I want to still be able to tow with it on occasion so if i bagged just the rear what all would I need or should I just get 5" drop springs? The only problem with drop springs was that I didn't know if they would handle trailer weight. I figured if I bagged the rear I could adjust it for the weight. Are 2600 bags enough to handle the weight? Can I just install the bags where the coils are and just hook a compressor and switch up to adjust the weight or do I need a tank and relays and all the other stuff too? I want to do this as cheap as possible.........go figure huh? Please help me out.

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Old 10-13-2006, 04:36 PM   #2
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

use the 2,400 - 2,500 lb bag ... you can drill 3 holes and it will bolt right in.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:40 PM   #3
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

Check out this link and let me know if these bags will work.....

http://www.airbagit-store.com/produc...rch=bagspecial

The price looks good to.....4 bags for $118.
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:23 PM   #4
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

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Check out this link and let me know if these bags will work.....

http://www.airbagit-store.com/produc...rch=bagspecial

The price looks good to.....4 bags for $118.
I had 4 2500lb bags from AIM on my 79 Elcamino. They were made by a company called Phoenix Bag. The bellows split where they are crimped to the caps within about six months. I used some of their hard parts (brackets and such) and they were ok but I would strongly suggest finding a different source for your bags.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:52 PM   #5
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

i have never used them but i hear alot of complains i would and have stayed away from anithing that has to do with AIM Industries.
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:05 PM   #6
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For The Love Of All That Is Good, Stay Away From Anything With The Word AIM In It!!!

Read their add very closely. Notice it says "Dealers Only - all others $69 each."

Consider yourself warned.

Now, on a more positive note: contact these guys ... they come highly recommended. www.*****************

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Old 10-13-2006, 11:52 PM   #7
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I have a 71 Short Fleet and want to do a 4/5 drop. I plan on using drop spindles and 2" lower springs in the front. I want to still be able to tow with it on occasion so if i bagged just the rear what all would I need or should I just get 5" drop springs? The only problem with drop springs was that I didn't know if they would handle trailer weight. I figured if I bagged the rear I could adjust it for the weight. Are 2600 bags enough to handle the weight? Can I just install the bags where the coils are and just hook a compressor and switch up to adjust the weight or do I need a tank and relays and all the other stuff too? I want to do this as cheap as possible.........go figure huh? Please help me out.

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Air Ride Tech actually recommends a Firestone F6957 (2150#; 6.5"dia.; 3"min height; 7"max height; 4.5~5" @ ride height) for the rear of the 64~72 coil spring trucks even if you plan to tow a load (I asked them).

However.... you can use the F6873 (3150#; 8"dia.; 3"min; 8"max; 5~6" @ ride height) w/o any problems (they will definitely handle the load & are overkill). Use these w/a 2" block & you should need about 40psi of pressure for a decent ride unloaded & then bump it up to 60psi once you need the capacity increased. And yes.... it rides good loaded or not.

The above mentioned combo will net about 7" of drop; less if you bump the unloaded air pressure up a little bit.
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Old 10-14-2006, 06:51 AM   #8
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

Ok, OK, JUST SAY NO TO AIM!! I get it. Ok, now that we got the bag part handled, what about the compressor switch and gauge deal, is that all I need or do I need a tank and solenoids and all that stuff also? Thanks for the great help so far guys!!

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Ok, now that we got the bag part handled, what about the compressor switch and gauge deal, is that all I need or do I need a tank and solenoids and all that stuff also? Thanks for the great help so far guys!!

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Old 10-14-2006, 07:00 AM   #10
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Re: Bags just on the rear?

Do I need a C-Notch to lower the rear 5"? I think I read on here you do but just wanted to make sure.

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Do I need a C-Notch to lower the rear 5"? I think I read on here you do but just wanted to make sure.

thanks again.

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yes - CPP part number - 6372CNK tell them you saw their add in Custom Classic Trucks and you can get the C-Notch for $99 + shipping.

http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...ck/6372CNK.htm

The C-Notch is just one of the things you are going to need. Others include an adjustable track bar, lowering blocks, shock relocators, & new shocks.

Do a search on this section (Suspension) and you will find answers to most any question you might have.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:42 AM   #12
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Can I just install the bags where the coils are and just hook a compressor and switch up to adjust the weight or do I need a tank and relays and all the other stuff too? I want to do this as cheap as possible.........go figure huh? Please help me out.

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To answer your question on the compressor side. No, you don't HAVE to use a compresssor, relay, and tank, but it does make things much easier. Your most economical solution would be to attach a couple of schrader valves and air it up from and external source, but if you are going to be adjusting air pressure on a regular basis you will soon find out how much of a pain that can be. In my opinion you could easily get a small pump w/o a pressure switch that you could activate from the cab and just turn it on and fill (directly into the airsprings) to your desired air pressure. This way takes a little more time but costs less. Just be sure to get a switch that will allow the compressor to fill and deflate the airsprings and also a gauge so that you know what pressure you are running.
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