Just a Thought (Easy Burnouts)

[PHOENIX]

Dang this board is really busy today!

Ok I like burnouts as much as the next guy.
Anyone who has a stick truck like these knows its not real easy to hold the brake, release the clutch, and hit the gas all at once to do a standing burnout. I dont like to do them for this reason and the fact that im a broke a$s and cant afford tires
Could you get a valve that cuts off all pressure to the rear brakes. You know something that can be activated inside the cab. So if Im sitting at a stop light and decide that this little neon next to me, needs to hear a good old chevy v8 smokin some tires, I can do it with more ease and less damage to my truck and brake system. Just a thought, wanted to see what you guys had to say about it. I seen a few valves that should work without a problem, but it would require me to re-route the lines, something I dont plan on doing. This is not something Im set on doing, just thought it would be cool. Ohh yeah and if I was doing a frame off restoration, this is something I would highly consider doing.

[RockHQ]

You mean like the line-lock valves that have been used since the 1960s?

[PHOENIX]

Hmm maybe, I dont know
Can you give me some more info?

[RockHQ]

Well i wasn't even born back in the 60s, but i believe people first used clamp on grips to block the rear brake hoses when they wanted to do burnouts. Later on they put manual valves (same as you would find on a water pipe) there to do the same thing, and now there are a lot of electric systems where you just push a button and no longer have to get under the vehicle to turn the valve(s) closed or clamp the wires.
I hope i'm not totally mistaken?

-Axle

[PHOENIX]

That sounds about right, but is there a kit or something that is kinda like the exhuast cut out openers, you know something that uses a cable to open and close the valve. Maybe something similar to a manual choke.

[Hard_Core_Hick]

Just disconect the rear breaks as well as use blech or water for ur smoke show , just a thought

[1FaastC10]

Hard_Core_Hick, i see where you get your name... why not do it right, so that you have 4 wheel functioning brakes when you need them?

here's the kit: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=TCI%2D861700

[PHOENIX]

Wow, sounds like a good way to go. But thats alot of money.
Heres the link to their web site with a little more detailed info on that product: http://www.tciauto.com/specialty/roll_stop.htm

Anyone know of any cheaper, possibly manual systems (cable operated)?

[RockHQ]

Why don't you do a little creative thinking?
I mean, if you look at how your parking brake cable is set up, you might pick up a hint from it on how to do it yourself. Not everything has to be designed and manufactured by a company in order to work.

[N2TRUX]

Have you of you guys realized you are talking about your BRAKES. I don't know about you, but my brakes are a pretty important function on my truck. I don't think you want to make some cable operated, rigged up device to defeat them in an attempt to do a better burnout.

If you can't afford a line-lock set-up then you can't afford to be burning your tires anyway.....

[1FaastC10]

Rock, the parking brake operates the rear brakes, which are drum... the fronts are disc, and are totally hydraulic operated. locking the back brakes defeats the purpose, as you wont be able to do a burnout with the brakes applied. the roll control goes on teh front brake lines.

[PHOENIX]

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...34&prmenbr=361

Originally posted by N2TRUX
I don't think you want to make some cable operated, rigged up device to defeat them in an attempt to do a better burnout.

Ok just so you understand, I dont rigg important stuff up, well not cheaply. I dont rig anything cheaply.

If you had a good valve, something similar to this proportion valve:
http://www.jegs.com/photos/9502602400.jpg
and had a good cable routing and support through out the system, it should be very dependable and safe. A valve that locks into position, possibly using a ball bearing, or something similar to lock it into position (on or off).

[TX_Mudder]

It seems to me that the simplest and safest way to do what you want is to put a line-lock inline with yout rear brakes. This will cost about $50 - $100.
What you would do is activate the line lock (by pressing the button) when you do NOT have your foot on the brakes. Then, put your foot on the brakes. Now you will have your front brakes holding you still but the rear brakes will be free. Burn out at will. Release the linelock before you go anywhere and it's still safe.

Having said that, my opinion is that stationary burnouts are :rainbow:
Good luck,
-- Mike

[PHOENIX]

They are gay? Is that what you are trying to say?
I think any type of burn out is cool!

I think a good line locker is the best way to go. After looking around some more, I bet it could easily be done for around $50-60. If I do it, it would not be for awhile. I think it would be a cool option to have though.
Anyone plan on doing something like this?
Anyone done it already?

[CT-Truckster]

yeah i think too the easiest way would be put a line lock in your front brakes. pump the brakes a time or two and push the button to lock the front brakes and your back wheels will be free. I see alot of people using these at the local 1/8 mile strip for their burnout.

another ide i been thinking about doing is I have a windshield washer resevoir with built in pump from a suburban. mount it under the hood, wire it to a switch in the cab to turn the pump on and off. run two lines to the rear tires so it will spray out on the tires. fill the res. with your favorite tire smoking concoction, push the button, soak the tires and amaze your freinds with your awesome tire burning smoking horsepower.

[RockHQ]

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
Rock, the parking brake operates the rear brakes, which are drum... the fronts are disc, and are totally hydraulic operated. locking the back brakes defeats the purpose, as you wont be able to do a burnout with the brakes applied. the roll control goes on teh front brake lines.

Well DUH
I've done many complete brake jobs, was a part of my mechanic's certificate education. What i wrote was actually a suggestion to look at how the parking brake cable works from the pedal to the drums. Now you can easily "rig up" a similar pedal or handle operated cable to pull a valve lever in the brake lines, thus having a home-made line-lock system. The example being a parking brake cable probably was not a good one.

[PHOENIX]

hahahhahahhaha.................. nice
My uncle installed a washer pump, but uses oil in it.
He has it set up so if your too close to him (tailgating), he hits the switch and you get a nice little spray of oil all over the front of your vehicle. He says its just enough to piss someone off, but it still looks like you just have a bad oil leak

[1FaastC10]

Rock, i'm still not seeing how you're going to do that one. the only way to lock the front brakes and not the rear (that is what we're trying to do here) is via hydraulic pressure. there is no way to rig a parking brake to the front wheels without using the master cylinder, so might as well just put a line lock on it and be done with it.

[Nvbowtie]

Wow

I didn't think anyone else used that trick with the washer pump.

I used it every Fri/Sat night at the sonic drive in to p!ss off Nija and V65 owners.

I mixed 90% bleach and 10% used oil, helped save on the tires and made - one hellova- cloud of smoke....

[bigblock73]

Eddie, do you even have a posi...or are you going to be doing the one-wheel-wonder wheel spin?

My 99 Furd Ranger has a 4cyl/5-speed and I can do a burnout in that without any help.

c'mon man.

j/k - Jeff

[BaggedC10]

Not to sound like a pri(k, but your starting to sound like a Ricer. Why don't you build that 350 up and learn how to better?

[RockHQ]

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
Rock, i'm still not seeing how you're going to do that one. the only way to lock the front brakes and not the rear (that is what we're trying to do here) is via hydraulic pressure. there is no way to rig a parking brake to the front wheels without using the master cylinder, so might as well just put a line lock on it and be done with it.

Jeremy,
You're still not thinking creatively. Loose the "parking brake" idea, and look at the cable assembly only. Use a cable setup similar like in the parking brake to operate the line-lock, not to do a front-wheel parking brake

[1FaastC10]

Rock, i dont think it gets much simpler than the line lock kit you can buy off the shelf. looking at something more "creative" is pointless. its a simple solenoid that locks fluid into the front brakes when you flip the switch, leaving them applied. you do your thing, flip the switch, and its back to normal. how much simpler can it be?

[PHOENIX]

Hmm interesting thoughts here.
I can spin my tires without a problem.
The problem is sitting STILL and spinning/smoking the tires.
It is not easy with a manual transimission and the pedals like they are. I can do it, but prefer not to do it that way. Not only are you wasting tires, but you are also wearing brakes and creating excessive stress on your drivetrain. Of course wearing tires is to be expected, its the others that I dont like. If I was to do a standing burnout I would want to eliminate as many problems as possible.
Call me a ricer, but how do you think those top fuelers sit still and smoke them tires? They done just magically sit there, they are using brake and kits like these. Top fueler are no ricers and either is what Im talking about.

No posi at this time. Just thinking ahead. Who knows if Ill ever do it, but I do like the line locker idea.

[Tracy Focht]

How do you keep from doing a burnout would be my question...