Under Dash Mounted Master Cylinder??

[duwem]

Anyone have one of these setups on their truck? (specifically 47-53)

http://www.hotrodandrestoration.com/...el-komponents/

Looks like a good idea, filling would be a challenge, but probably no worse than an under cab one without a hole in the cab floor.

Have not found a direct kit for our trucks, anyone know of one? Didnt see one the CCP website but found this tech article on 55 and up:

http://www.classicperform.com/tech_a.../GotBrakes.htm

[Intimidator]

No experience with it, but gotta say I sorta like it.

But I do think you might have more issues with it behind the dash than on the frame rail under the floor.

All kinds of crap in the way, like the cowl vent (if applicable), defrost ducting, and wipers, just to name a few.

[jocko]

i was considering the kugel stuff for an under-dash power disk setup on a 66 C10 so I could leave a dummy single pot master under the hood. BUT, at the time, was wishin I had an AD truck so I could just stuff a kit under the floor and call it a day.

Since there are several mfgrs that make under cab power dual masters, why not just use the under the floor approach? There are proven kits by CPP, etc, specifically for this.

Interesting - in the end, I decided to not go under the dash due to space limitations (in my 66)

[duwem]

Plan is to run true duel exhaust and the master may get in the way/be near heat if under the cab.

Dont want it in the firewall, plan to do a smooth firewall.

Looks like a neat concept, hoping someone chimes in that has done one and what the experience was like.

Besides the things mentioned, wiring for the gauges and what not also is behind the dash.

[72Mountaineer]

Hydroboost is your friend.

[mknittle]

Originally Posted by 72Mountaineer

Hydroboost is your friend.

big time.

[_Ogre]

Originally Posted by 72Mountaineer

Hydroboost is your friend.

i'm not sure how much room you have in the older trucks, but i installed a hydroboost in my 58 truk.
$100 for the hydroboost and mc from an 03 mustang.
i used the mounting plate to make this bracket with the stock swing arm and pedal.



and here is the install. i used a remote reservoir from a mercury villager. i fill it on the firewall

[cajundragger]

I have one. They work great. I fill it with a squeeze ketchup bottom with a tube on the on the of it.

Look at the ones from scotts hotrods. They make the best ones with bushings and whatnot. The kugel ones are just a bolt in a tube.

[duwem]

Originally Posted by cajundragger

I have one. They work great. I fill it with a squeeze ketchup bottom with a tube on the on the of it.

Look at the ones from scotts hotrods. They make the best ones with bushings and whatnot. The kugel ones are just a bolt in a tube.

Do you have any pictures of the installation and process? Looking at Scotts web site they just sell the pedal assembly, less master cylinder/booster. What master/booster did you run?

Thanks

[mr48chev]

If I was running that setup I would want to install it first and then build the truck (underdash part) around it.

With my creaky old joints I can't flex around enough to service it anymore so it would be out for me but it might be great for younger guys who are able to work up under the dash.

I was thinking about running a hydro boost and moving the master cylinder back further similar to what Solidaxle showed.

[solidaxel]

I used a kit from ECI but had to modify it a bit, moved it back out of the way of everything, used the stock brake arm and hole in the toe board
Both of these chassis are 53 AD and ECI brake kits

[54foster]

The under the dash kit is the same idea I had as I will also be running true dual exhaust and the truck will be air ride. So I will have have very limited space under the cab and between the frame rail. I had not seen this kit but I know Summit Racing has a similar kit that I was looking at.

[paintman]

Originally Posted by solidaxel

I used a kit from ECI but had to modify it a bit, moved it back out of the way of everything, used the stock brake arm and hole in the toe board
Both of these chassis are 53 AD and ECI brake kits

sorry to hi jack the thread but does anybody know who's trans mount this?

[Rude Dude]

I think that Steve's design at Industrial Chassis in Phoenix Arizona

Originally Posted by paintman

sorry to hi jack the thread but does anybody know who's trans mount this?

[cajundragger]

check this out.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=302780&page=1

I ran a dual diaphragm 7" I think with a vette master.

[tech@scottshotrods]

Thanks Cajundragger for filling the guys in regarding our underdash pedal assembly.. Since we are a supporting Vendor you know we'll take car of you guys! Not only do we have the pedal assemblies instock but we are also the manufacture! If you have any questions please feel free and ask.


Installed under a C-10 dash

[duwem]

Do you sell it as a complete assembly with booster and master?

If so how much $$?

[tech@scottshotrods]

Forum Member price is 360.00 complete with master/booster , our pedal assembly is complete with the brake mounting pad (we don't charge an additional 20.00 for like some) we use bronze bushings, and our assembly is 100% TIG Welded
we also offer remote fill reservoirs the dual machine finish is 110.00 pol. add 20.00 and the master lid is going to run 50.00 with the seal

[duwem]

Cool, looks to be about $100 less then the Kugel one.

[tech@scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by duwem

Cool, looks to be about $100 less then the Kugel one.

so let's get an order going...

[duwem]

If only money grew on trees. Still trying ot get out of debt from the engine I bought and then save up for frame boxing plates....

[72Mountaineer]

Is it so that the remote resevoirs must be mounted higher than the master cylinder (logically)? If so, where could you mount one? I've seen some very pretty ones, NO LIMIT has a great polished one, but where to mount one thats higher than the M/C?

[tech@scottshotrods]

our polished remote reservoirs are 130.00 retail and are typically mounted on the firewall when doing a underdash or frame mount assembly

[hotrodrookie]

Hey Jon, I'm considering a set up like this for my 59. Do you guys have any pics of installs on a task force truck?
Do you know if I would have to remove the instrument panel to dash brace assembly?
Is there still a chance of still fitting a heater defroster or even an a/c unit with the MC under the dash?

[tech@scottshotrods]

Let me check our photo archive and see if I can dig up any photos.... I personally have no experiance on installing them on your truck but I will ask Justin or have him chime in, in a few