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Old 01-28-2013, 03:22 PM   #1
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No brakes...

hey guys, i'm having a problem with my brake system on my 79. started off with the pedal being super soft, randomly was fine one second, shut the truck off then boom soft pedal. soo, first thing i did was check fluid level, was low so topped it off. wasn't leaking brake fluid anywhere i could tell. that didn't change anything, so i figured i would change the master cylinder. it was old so i didn't have a problem installing a new one, even if that wasn't the problem. bench bled it for awhile even after bubbles stopped coming up. got it all installed and still super soft pedal, but only when the truck is running....soo i went ahead and changed the brake booster with a tuff stuff unit from summit. again, i had no problem spending money on it, even if it wasn't the culprit. i figure no money that goes into my truck is wasted, as i plan to never get rid of it.
the latest thing i did was bleed the brakes real good. i did noticed a weak flow from the driver side front caliper, not sure what that is trying to tell me.
that's where i left off, firm pedal with truck off. super soft with it running.. i've been waiting for my tax return to go ahead and do the rear disc brake swap and change all the rubber lines and flush the system real good. i'm hoping if i just replaced everything in the system that should fix it...right?
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:45 PM   #2
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Re: No brakes...

Have you looked at your rears? I had a super soft pedal that would go to the floor. Replaced the MC, fixed that, but still soft. My rear brakes were worn to crap. Either you need to adjust them or there worn out.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: No brakes...

i have a sneaky suspicion they may need adjusting. but i'm not even going to mess with them. except when i rip them off in favor of some nice new discs
the truck is fortunately not my DD anymore, which means i can wait to fix/improve things when it's convenient for me
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:51 AM   #4
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Re: No brakes...

The rear drums probably need adjustment. You'll be pleasantly surprised how well properly adjusted drum brakes work. If the Star Wheel assembly is clean and lubed it'll stay in adjustment.

If taking the slack out of the rear brakes doesn't fix the pedal feel then it may be the master cylinder. Wait till after you replace the flexible lines to call it dying.

Weak flow from the Left Front caliper is prolly a collapsing rubber line. There are DOT Approved Braided Stainless Steel flex lines that are pretty reasonably priced. They make a night and day difference in pedal feel.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:33 PM   #5
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I think your brake lines are soft. I put braided stainless on mine, nice hard pedal, after three years it's softened up a bit...maybe time to bleed 'em again.
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