Car crushing in Montana

[Highsider]

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/blogs/s...&rid=246193895

[OrrieG]

Sad, but if the owners do not advertise people will not find them either. If there are indeed two more in the area the word needs to get out.

There is a big yard in Jerome Idaho. The guys goes to all the major swap meets and car shows in the NW to advertise what he has. Fair prices and he is making money. In the 90's when metal prices went thru the roof Jalopy Jungle in Nampa Idaho crushed all their remaining old cars, but most had been pretty picked over and were poor shells and frames.

[Malice]

Originally Posted by OrrieG

Sad, but if the owners do not advertise people will not find them either. If there are indeed two more in the area the word needs to get out.

There is a big yard in Jerome Idaho. The guys goes to all the major swap meets and car shows in the NW to advertise what he has. Fair prices and he is making money. In the 90's when metal prices went thru the roof Jalopy Jungle in Nampa Idaho crushed all their remaining old cars, but most had been pretty picked over and were poor shells and frames.

The junk yard in Gooding is up for sell. Rumor has it he is trying to get rid of all the cars for $300 each. I think he has some pretty cool stuff.

[Old Truck Man]

I myself am sending lots of old vehicles for scrap. I tried to sell some on EBAY $200 starting bid no reserve. Didn't get one bid. One was a 62 olds complete car. has a 394 rocket engine. only missing one fender script and the horn ring. At 260 dollars per ton the old car will bring in the neighborhood of $750. Why should I waste time with lowballers & tire kickers? My opinion is any potential project vehicle that has a title is worth $1000. cash no guarntees. And no Im not going to let anyone come & pick & choose the best at scrap price. The scrap man pays cash and don't care about anything except what it weighs. The fact is there are not ready willing & able buyers who will pay even what it will scrap for. A person who has a large amount of vehicles cannot make more by parting them out or selling to the general public. The 62 olds 4 dr htp will be recycled in the near future. Ill strip off the copper wiring, radiator,heater core, and desirable parts ect.

[JaggedEdge]

Originally Posted by Old Truck Man

I myself am sending lots of old vehicles for scrap. I tried to sell some on EBAY $200 starting bid no reserve. Didn't get one bid. One was a 62 olds complete car. has a 394 rocket engine. only missing one fender script and the horn ring. At 260 dollars per ton the old car will bring in the neighborhood of $750. Why should I waste time with lowballers & tire kickers? My opinion is any potential project vehicle that has a title is worth $1000. cash no guarntees. And no Im not going to let anyone come & pick & choose the best at scrap price. The scrap man pays cash and don't care about anything except what it weighs. The fact is there are not ready willing & able buyers who will pay even what it will scrap for. A person who has a large amount of vehicles cannot make more by parting them out or selling to the general public. The 62 olds 4 dr htp will be recycled in the near future. Ill strip off the copper wiring, radiator,heater core, and desirable parts ect.

I would love to know where you are getting $260 a ton. Around here (western OK) salvage price varies from $100 a ton delivered to the yard, to $160 a ton picked up. The $160 cat is the highest paying around.
Not dissing you, just don't see those prices here. Problem locally is all these goobers watching Fast and Loud thinking their "project" will make me 10 or 12 grand profit if I flip it. So they price the stuff crazy high, and it eventually just sits and rusts away.

[Old Truck Man]

The local scrap guys around here pay $1.10 per hundred per for car bodys and you can leave the gas tank with a hole in it and 4 tires &wheels. that's what the average joe with one car will receive. mine are prepared gas tank removed tires & wheels removed and I sell a bulk load of three large or 4 small vehicles at a time on my gooseneck trailer. I broker a special deal and deliver When the portable Scrap processor is at the yard. We have two steel mills in the region that make products from scrap steel on is at Blytheville Ar and the other is at Newport Ar. In todays paper Mc Coys Scrap Processing Co. 635 S. 6th street Poplar Bluff Mo. PH 573-785-5725 (not where im currently selling mine) is paying any person off the street $11.00 per hundred for car bodys. For reasons that I have a special deal I cant divulge where I sell to. I don't have to sell and I will stockpile until the price is right and My buyer knows this fact. I don't just take my scrap and say here it is what are you going to pay for it. I actively market and know how much I can deliver.

[OrrieG]

Originally Posted by JaggedEdge

Problem locally is all these goobers watching Fast and Loud thinking their "project" will make me 10 or 12 grand profit if I flip it. So they price the stuff crazy high, and it eventually just sits and rusts away.

Even before the entertaining shows that it was a problem. When I moved into my current home in 1985 there was a good solid 69 Z-28 and a 68 R/T Charger sitting in neighbors back yards (we used to walk a lot back then with the kids). Also about another half dozen other old cars. I respectfully inquired about them on a regular basis, and got the "going to fix it up" song and dance for 25 years watching them rust away. Lady with the Charger died (it was her Viet Nam vet kids) and junior sold it for nothing because the rust was so bad. Z, the same deal, when the guy moved to a new house the body buckled loading it onto the trailer from the cowl and rear window/trunk leaking. I just hopped the DZ block was not frozen beyond repair.

[Old Truck Man]

Here Are pictures of the 62 olds im going to send to the scrap recycler.

[OrrieG]

Does not look like it, but if its a Starfire it has unique parts that are in demand and not repopped. I assume you have tried to sell all or parts and just no response??

[Old Truck Man]

Its a dynamic 88. Ive owned the car 15 years and haven't sold even one part. Now Im getting old and realize the time is fast approaching when something must be done with my hoard. I would prefer it was done now with me being in charge. There are simply too many pretty police & environmental wacos for me to be able to continue enjoying my hobby unfettered by the government. They reciently degesinated the two hwys at my corner as SENIC routes. Oh well it was fun for a long time.

[Fatherof3]

Did he try to sell the business?
Did he try to sell the inventory to other yards?
Sounds like some one who is all about the money and has no passion for it.
It's sure going to be hard to straighten all that stainless trim back out.

[Old Truck Man]

Originally Posted by Fatherof3

Did he try to sell the business?
Did he try to sell the inventory to other yards?
Sounds like some one who is all about the money and has no passion for it.
It's sure going to be hard to straighten all that stainless trim back out.

unfortunately any person who has a considerable amount of vehicles its about the money. Without it being about the money you don't amass a large inventory, collection ,hoard whatever you wish to call it. Over the decades ive owned a couple of thousand vehicles. some ive kept, some where quick flips, some parted out and a large portion sent to the recyclers. My passion isn't any less because I wanted to turn a profit. I pull all the stainless , aluminum, potmetal off before I recycle. I separate everything to try and get the most dollars from the scrap. I even sometimes cut the frames up for short iron. Its kinda nice to haul off three vehicles on my gooseneck and get between $1500 and$2000 for the cars and sell a couple hundred dollars worth of copper aluminum & stainless to boot. Being about the money isn't evil or even a little bit wrong.

[Fatherof3]

There was nothing kind, considerate, or generous about crushing that Cadillac coupe pictured in the article. I only hope that he tried other avenues first before crushing them and that the Cadillac was a rare exception and not the norm of his inventory.

[meter swinger]

A friend that I work with his dad just passed and he lived in idaho. The old man had about 35-40 cars from the 40's through early 60's. Myself and another guy at work had been talking with him about getting them advertised for sale. Then he came and told us that the rest of the family decided to scrap everything.

[Old Crow]

Old Truck Man. Not to hijack the thread, but I see you're not that far from me. You don't happen to have a Pontiac 455 somewhere in that hoard, do you? Doesn't need to be running, but it needs to be rebuildable.

[Old Truck Man]

Originally Posted by Old Crow

Old Truck Man. Not to hijack the thread, but I see you're not that far from me. You don't happen to have a Pontiac 455 somewhere in that hoard, do you? Doesn't need to be running, but it needs to be rebuildable.

No 455,s the largest Pontiac I have is a 400 its a really good engine. Im seriously thinking of swapping it into a 83 chev truck I have.

[G&R's57GMC]

You know there is a market for American cars and trucks in Europe . That Olds would bring some $$$ . Its just a mater of them finding us. That would take advertising on e bay.

[Old Truck Man]

Originally Posted by G&R's57GMC

You know there is a market for American cars and trucks in Europe . That Olds would bring some $$$ . Its just a mater of them finding us. That would take advertising on e bay.

You are welcome to buy it from me for $750 and make yourself a fortune .

[mr48chev]

As Old Truck man so aptly said, all too many 'bargain hunters' won't pay what the scrapper will pay in cash green money and whine If you ask enough over that to make it worth you while to sell to them.

Add to that, when the yard owners or his decedents do hold an auction they all too often don't make an effort to present the majority of what should be decent sellers they way they should be. It doesn't take that much time and effort to clean out an area of the property to set the ones that should sell at decent prices out spaced out where people can see them and get around them without climbing over junk or wading through hip deep weeds. I know of one yard that the old fart that had it for 50 years wouldn't sell half

[Old Truck Man]

Ok Edsels are supposed to be rare and worth lots of money? A guy I know took a 59 4 dr htp and restored it. its a pink car. really nice new interior etc. He has been trying to sell it for several years. took it to auctions. listed it on the internet etc. cant even get a offer for 10% of what he spent. I told him you gotta find a edsel lover a 4 door lover and lover of pink cars. and they gotta have deep pockets. Now if he would have restored a chevy even a 4 door from between 55 thru 64 he could much more easily find a buyer. The fake stuff shown on TV in no way relates to what the real situation is for the average Joe.I worked running a car crusher 45 years ago. My job was to jump down and using a air impact remove all the lug nuts & tires. Then I would pull the lever and the 4 cyl Detroit would scream and the big hydraulic cyls mash that car flatter than a flitter. Great fun for a 17 year old kid. The guy I worked for would let me take parts off and give them to me. I took of any speed equiptment things like intake manifolds ,4 bbl carbs ,Mallory ignition, 4 speed trans ,mag wheels, floor shifters even the ocassional complete engine and I still have a lot of those items today. I have a huge collection of mag wheel lug nuts. I seen 55 & 56 crown Vicky fords, tri five chevys, caddys all kinds of old 40,s fifties & sixties cars & trucks get mashed and hauled to the shredder. It took about 16 of those big cars to load a semi trailer. and it was good it reduced the inventory and made what survived a little more valuable.

[Old Truck Man]

Originally Posted by mr48chev

As Old Truck man so aptly said, all too many 'bargain hunters' won't pay what the scrapper will pay in cash green money and whine If you ask enough over that to make it worth you while to sell to them.

Add to that, when the yard owners or his decedents do hold an auction they all too often don't make an effort to present the majority of what should be decent sellers they way they should be. It doesn't take that much time and effort to clean out an area of the property to set the ones that should sell at decent prices out spaced out where people can see them and get around them without climbing over junk or wading through hip deep weeds. I know of one yard that the old fart that had it for 50 years wouldn't sell half

Lok at the picture of the olds. its is spaced out where you can walk around it and open all the doors. the goats & cow keep the weeds down. I placed a dozen cars that where at least 95% complete in a row mowed around them , washed them. took lots of pictures and listed them on Ebay a few years ago. $200 starting price no reserve. didn't get any Bids. Got some phone calls. folks wanted them to be in running driving cond for scrap price. One a 53 buick I eventually sold for $650 about 6 months ago. I scrapped 9 already I still have the olds and a 65 chev 4 door left out of the dozen. I pulled the engine & trans out of the chevy. sold the powerglide trans for $100.

[67GMCkid]

I don't sell any cars whole, anything I get my hands on gets parted. Yesterday the few remaining piece's of rotted sheet metal and the frame of what once was a 55 Plymouth went to the scrap yard.. Anyone who can't make money parting a car ain't doing it correctly.. I have never made less than $2000 on a parts car..

That Olds should be listed for parts over on the hamb, I have seen want adds there many times for Oldsmobiles in the 62-64 and 394 motors wanted..
Sitting at your computer you have the world at your finger tips,,,USE IT to your advantage, it will pay off..

Next on the chopping block,, a 1960 Dodge Matador

[Old Truck Man]

Originally Posted by 67GMCkid

I don't sell any cars whole, anything I get my hands on gets parted. Yesterday the few remaining piece's of rotted sheet metal and the frame of what once was a 55 Plymouth went to the scrap yard.. Anyone who can't make money parting a car ain't doing it correctly.. I have never made less than $2000 on a parts car..

That Olds should be listed for parts over on the hamb, I have seen want adds there many times for Oldsmobiles in the 62-64 and 394 motors wanted..
Sitting at your computer you have the world at your finger tips,,,USE IT to your advantage, it will pay off..

Next on the chopping block,, a 1960 Dodge Matador

Ive been a long time member on the HAMB. That car has been advertised in the HAMB classifieds. Ive sold lots of parts on the HAMB. things like a flathead V12 lincoln engine. A flathead 6 ford truck engine, the buyers drove here and picked up the engines. did you ever try and ship a engine? Ive sold & shipped bellhousings, wheels,Stromberg carbs etc. I did pretty good until the fuel went above $4 per gallon. The shipping is a deal breaker. Tell you what bring a trailer & cash and Buy a dozen from me at scrap price and make yourself a killing. Now certain things do sell for big money on the HAMB. Ive been offered big money for a 401 nailhead that is equipped with Weiand goodies & speed equipt.

[speesh]

I have a sad........

[mr48chev]

Originally Posted by Old Truck Man

Lok at the picture of the olds. its is spaced out where you can walk around it and open all the doors. the goats & cow keep the weeds down. I placed a dozen cars that where at least 95% complete in a row mowed around them , washed them. took lots of pictures and listed them on Ebay a few years ago. $200 starting price no reserve. didn't get any Bids. Got some phone calls. folks wanted them to be in running driving cond for scrap price. One a 53 buick I eventually sold for $650 about 6 months ago. I scrapped 9 already I still have the olds and a 65 chev 4 door left out of the dozen. I pulled the engine & trans out of the chevy. sold the powerglide trans for $100.

The problem with the Olds as I see it is that it isn't a highly desirable model to restore or even make a mild custom out of. Even though your asking price is more than fair guys are still looking at the same cost of restoring it as they would be looking at restoring a two door hardtop of the same model that would be worth three times as much when both were finished to the same restored level. Worse problem is there is probably a guy within 200 miles of you who dearly needs the nose off that car along with a lot of other pieces who would hand over 1000 bucks in a heartbeat if he knew it existed.

On the mowing around the rigs I was actually writhing about going to an auction in an old wrecking yard and having to tromp through weeds waist deep to get to the cars being auctioned because the outfit that owned them didn't feel the need to clean up a section of the yard to line them up in an orderly fashion to best present them. Not being willing to put in a week or so's work getting things ready for the auction probably cost them 30K because a lot of the potential bidders didn't want to tromp out in the weeds to check out some fairly decent cars. I ended up with a number of truck parts that I was the opening bidder on including a nice hood and fender for 10.00 each. The stacks of parts went last in the 3 day auction and by the time they got to them those of us who were still there were checking with each other to see who actually wanted what. I've still got a bunch of stuff from that auction in the sheds.