292 l6 to a 5 speed?

[low n loud]

Ok so I'm building a 63 c10. I have a 292 that has a lot more power coming from it. I've seen people suggest a nv3500 transmission but most people use it on a 250. The 292 has a little more grunt to it and I don't want to tear it apart in short order. I want to go with something that I don't need to worry about. I had a 3 speed, but I need to keep the rpm's down on the highway

This truck will be a driver. But will also be taken to the drag strip with my buddies.

Any suggestions?

Thank you

[pimpston65]

yeah send me all you unwanted 3 speed zbar parts and i send u a np205 granny gear 4speed... maybe a PG would fit ur bill. tame daily driver/then ball$ to wall strip beast!!!

[Sharps40]

A granny 4 is the same performance and hwy rpm as the stock 3. It just has a near usless 1st and the same 1 to 1 hi gear.

To drop the rpm yell need either or both of an OD trans and differenr ring/pinion. A WC Camaro T5 would likely be okay rearward of a 292 I6 or go 200/700 R4.

[low n loud]

I'm looking to keep a manual transmission now. But yes I need an over drive for highway use.

I have a bench seat. I wonder if the t5 would end up to far back?

[TJ's Chevy]

Check out Sharps40's build thread...He put a T5 in his truck..He's gotta 250...The T5 outta a 1995 S-10 V6 chevy will work...all you need is the bellhousing adapter from Stovebolt.com and I believe a different crossmember and yer good to go...they are a nice fairly close ratio trans. How pumped up is your 292??? Here's a picture of my 292.

[low n loud]

Do you have a link?

So far I have 500 4 barrel, long tube headmans, and hei distributor.
I going to order a cam this week. Over winter I plan to build a head for it while it snows. Love the inlines!

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by low n loud

Do you have a link?

So far I have 500 4 barrel, long tube headmans, and hei distributor.
I going to order a cam this week. Over winter I plan to build a head for it while it snows. Love the inlines!

I don't...I'll try an get you one though...Here's the picture of mine that I was talking about. I have a 600 edelbrock, short tube headers, hei.

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY

Check out Sharps40's build thread...He put a T5 in his truck..He's gotta 250...The T5 outta a 1995 S-10 V6 chevy will work...all you need is the bellhousing adapter from Stovebolt.com and I believe a different crossmember and yer good to go...they are a nice fairly close ratio trans. How pumped up is your 292??? Here's a picture of my 292.

T.J. I don't agree with the 1995 S10 combo you mentioned above as a workable solution because it won't bolt up to his bell housing. A 1995 S10 T5 will have a FORD bolt pattern.

For the T5 transmission - 1993 was the last year that a Chevy S10 or GMC S15 had a T5 with a Chevy pattern case. From 1994 on, the T5s in S10/S15 trucks had a FORD pattern case. So a 1995 T5 will not bolt up to a 292 bell housing.

I also don't think that Stovebolt.com sells bell housing adapters.

If the OP wants a daily driver 5 speed OD transmission, then a T5 is an economical and practical option, but I agree that it will not take abuse.

If the OP decides to stay off the drag strip and will refrain from doing burnouts, then the world class T5 from a 1988 -92 Camaro or Firebird would be a good choice. Keeping the bench seat would require a tail housing swap. Going with bucket seats would allow him to keep the Camaro shifter position and keep the cable speedo connection too.

Adapter plates are only needed for the S10/S15 T5s and there are even ways to get around that.

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by Lugnutz65

T.J. I don't agree with the 1995 S10 combo you mentioned above as a workable solution because it won't bolt up to his bell housing. A 1995 S10 T5 will have a FORD bolt pattern.

For the T5 transmission - 1993 was the last year that a Chevy S10 or GMC S15 had a T5 with a Chevy pattern case. From 1994 on, the T5s in S10/S15 trucks had a FORD pattern case. So a 1995 T5 will not bolt up to a 292 bell housing.

I also don't think that Stovebolt.com sells bell housing adapters.

If the OP wants a daily driver 5 speed OD transmission, then a T5 is an economical and practical option, but I agree that it will not take abuse.

If the OP decides to stay off the drag strip and will refrain from doing burnouts, then the world class T5 from a 1988 -92 Camaro or Firebird would be a good choice. Keeping the bench seat would require a tail housing swap. Going with bucket seats would allow him to keep the Camaro shifter position and keep the cable speedo connection too.

Adapter plates are only needed for the S10/S15 T5s and there are even ways to get around that.

Well...I think you missed one of my posts cause when I found out the guy was gonna go to the drag strip I let him know that the S10 T5 was not a good idea...also...yes..I know about the different years..I just get them mixed up once in awhile. lol And Langdon's stovebolt actually does sell an adapter...but not for this engine.

[Sharps40]

Agreed and per Tom Langdon, Stovebolts Engine Company, the S10 T5 is not the trans for abusive use as it was typically designed to run behind a 150"ish motor in a lighter vehicle and with a small motors amount of abuse. If I was going to occasionally drag, I'd use the World Class V8 Camaro T5 or find something different with an overdrive. Its too bad but many of the options will cost more than the truck + paint + engine!

[Sharps40]

[theastronaut]

LT1 T56 is rated at 450 tq and will bolt up.

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by theastronaut

LT1 T56 is rated at 450 tq and will bolt up.

Gonna need bucket seats! lol!

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY

Gonna need bucket seats! lol!

Or just relocate the shifter. Can be done with a ball socket and linkage back to the original shifter, and it should fit under a factory high hump.

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by theastronaut

Or just relocate the shifter. Can be done with a ball socket and linkage back to the original shifter, and it should fit under a factory high hump.

And . . . . . drum roll please . . . . it can accept a cable speedo connection so you can keep the original instrument cluster if that's the "look" you want.

[60-66]

I don't mean to hi jack this thread but since we have so many T5 Gurus here I have a few questions on this swap.

My Brother is replacing his stock 283 front mount engine and 3 speed mid mount at bellhousing in his 1961 X frame short bed. He's putting in a new GM crate 300HP 350 with stock 3:90 rear end gears and T5 shown below.

Question one, can he still use the same 61 bellhousing and mid mount ?

Two, looks like I'm reading he needs a hydraulic clutch, which he already has but what's different ?

Three, is drive shaft length different ?

Four, heres the trans he is using, can he use the original low hump or does he need the high hump and will it affect his bench seat with this shifter location ??


Any other parts or suggestions Id like to help him before it gets to involved.

Thanks !!

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by 60-66

I don't mean to hi jack this thread but since we have so many T5 Gurus here I have a few questions on this swap.

My Brother is replacing his stock 283 front mount engine and 3 speed mid mount at bellhousing in his 1961 X frame short bed. He's putting in a new GM crate 300HP 350 with stock 3:90 rear end gears and T5 shown below.

Question one, can he still use the same 61 bellhousing and mid mount ?

Two, looks like I'm reading he needs a hydraulic clutch, which he already has but what's different ?

Three, is drive shaft length different ?

Four, heres the trans he is using, can he use the original low hump or does he need the high hump and will it affect his bench seat with this shifter location ??


Any other parts or suggestions Id like to help him before it gets to involved.

Thanks !!

All good questions. Like you said, so we don't hijack this thread, I'll send you a PM. I'd be happy to help. The short answer is that it will work but mods will need to be done. More to come in the PM.
Jay

[TJ's Chevy]

Hey all...I'm on the look out for a tranny for my hotrod 292 as well...I was looking at a tremic tko 600 but its gonna be almost 4500 down the drain to get the thing to work cause supposedly I have to change bell housings even though the small block uses one almost to similar. So all you who are running the richmond 5 speed...anyone have numbers and what you had to do to adapt it to the 292? Or 250? Not wanting to spend 2500 on a trans and another 500 on a darn bell housing. lol But if that's the only way then..we'll just live with it.

[66Submarine]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

Hey all...I'm on the look out for a tranny for my hotrod 292 as well...I was looking at a tremic tko 600 but its gonna be almost 4500 down the drain to get the thing to work cause supposedly I have to change bell housings even though the small block uses one almost to similar. So all you who are running the richmond 5 speed...anyone have numbers and what you had to do to adapt it to the 292? Or 250? Not wanting to spend 2500 on a trans and another 500 on a darn bell housing. lol But if that's the only way then..we'll just live with it.

Not sure who told you that, but it's BS; the 292 uses the same bellhousing as a SBC/BBC.

What's the extra $2,000 for? The driveshaft and shifter location are the only things you should need to deal with (besides the 26 spline clutch disk, obviously).

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by 66Submarine

Not sure who told you that, but it's BS; the 292 uses the same bellhousing as a SBC/BBC.

What's the extra $2,000 for? The driveshaft and shifter location are the only things you should need to deal with (besides the 26 spline clutch disk, obviously).

I knew it, That's what I told the guy at summit...he was saying something abou the bell housings being similar but for that tranny to work with the inline 6 it needed a different bell housing for a hydraulic clutch and a block adapter....why I don't know cause its "SUPPOSED" to fit ALL small block and big blocks and chevy 6's used identical bell housings as the sb and bb. I don't know. lol I mean....if it fits a small block 327 from 66 then why won't it bolt up to a 292 I6 from 66 when they used the same housing? Ah, maybe I'll just go with the nv3500. lol

[Shaky]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

Hey all...I'm on the look out for a tranny for my hotrod 292 as well...I was looking at a tremic tko 600 but its gonna be almost 4500 down the drain to get the thing to work cause supposedly I have to change bell housings even though the small block uses one almost to similar. So all you who are running the richmond 5 speed...anyone have numbers and what you had to do to adapt it to the 292? Or 250? Not wanting to spend 2500 on a trans and another 500 on a darn bell housing. lol But if that's the only way then..we'll just live with it.

I didn't have to do anything different for the Richmond behind the 250. I used a bell housing from my brother's 327 (truck was automatic when I got it), used the same clutch, and most of the same clutch linkage.

I don't know who told you that, but it's incorrect. There were only two bell housings in light trucks at that time (to my knowledge) and the only difference was the i.d. where the transmission pilots. I think the SM465 took a larger i.d. I used one from a Muncie 3-speed truck and it worked just fine.

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by Shaky

I didn't have to do anything different for the Richmond behind the 250. I used a bell housing from my brother's 327 (truck was automatic when I got it), used the same clutch, and most of the same clutch linkage.

I don't know who told you that, but it's incorrect. There were only two bell housings in light trucks at that time (to my knowledge) and the only difference was the i.d. where the transmission pilots. I think the SM465 took a larger i.d. I used one from a Muncie 3-speed truck and it worked just fine.

Thanks for the info shaky. Yeah...they say the tko 600 fits all sbc and bbc so why wouldn't it fit the i6 when they use identical bell housing? lol But won't know tell we try.

[64chevtruck]

Hi, Merry Christmas,

I think I would just put a 308 rear end in it, you can actually use Granny gear as a first gear, the stock 4 speed is bulletproof and already in there, you can glide down the highway in 4th gear at low rpms.

Im not sure how it would work on a track though,

Happy Hollidays

[vince1]

Old 4sp with 3.08 gearing is not the answer. Horrible shifting and loud. Could still also use a bit taller gearing on the highway.

[Captainfab]

Shaky is right. There are 2 different truck bellhousings. The typical '67 and earlier with the 4-11/16" bore for the trans input shaft retainer and the '68-'72 with the 5-1/8" bore. If your truck currently has the SM420, the bellhousing will be 4-11/16". You need to find out what the TKO500 or 600 trans requires for a center bore. If you do need a bellhousing with the 5-1/8" bore, I believe I have a couple. You could also eliminate the bellhousing crossmember and change the bellhousing to a standard GM bellhousing and just add a trans crossmember under the rear of the trans.