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02-23-2015, 04:19 PM | #1 |
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Battery size ;)
So my trucks battery is dead, it's not the right one for the truck, loose moves around etc will not bolt in.
So the question is what battery model should I be using its got the i6 in at present but I do want to swap to a v8 soon so would like to get one that will deal with both situations if possible.
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02-23-2015, 07:31 PM | #2 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
Is it still 6 volt or has it been converted to 12 volt? Most V8 engines will come with a 12v starter, alternator, coil, etc.
The correct battery for your truck is a 6 volt Group 1. It is 9" long, 6-7/8" wide, 8 3/4" tall. The neg top post is at the left rear corner. Pos post is at the right front corner.
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02-24-2015, 12:57 AM | #3 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
Sorry forgot that bit. Looks like it's been converted to 12v already.
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02-24-2015, 01:20 AM | #4 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
Optima red top 800 CCA
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02-24-2015, 11:51 AM | #5 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
Not big Optima fan as too many friends have had too much trouble with them but I am one who always buys the best battery that the store where I go to buy batteries sells that fits in the space I want to put it in. If it is under the floor in the stock AD truck battery holder that is limited by the size of the battery but you can still get the best battery the dealer has that fits.
Had a shop teacher tell me 50 years ago that new cars can get by with the cheapest battery on the shelf but old cars and trucks need the best the store has to offer and I've stuck with that.
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02-24-2015, 12:14 PM | #6 |
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The old saying " you get what you pay for " applies to batteries. Buy a good quality with a recognized name and warranty and it will serve you well.
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02-24-2015, 02:20 PM | #7 |
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I have always bought Diehards with success. Because of the cold winters I get the highest CCA rating I can fit in the hole.
Only time I did not was on a road trip. We stopped at a Walmart for supplies and when we went back out the car would not start. It had been acting cranky but I was going to check it when I got home. I pulled the battery, went inside where it checked up bad, and bought their standard 36 month battery. It lasted about 24 months. I did not even bother with the warranty to just get another crappy battery and dropped in a Diehard. It was still working fine 5 years later when we sold the car.
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02-24-2015, 03:15 PM | #8 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
i'm not a fan of optima batteries either
any name brand battery is my preference and like orrieg said get the biggest cca battery if you live in cold country speaking of cold... i need to move to az; anyone have a spare room for rent was going to move to tx, but they're in the middle of an ice storm right now had to replace the battery in my dd last week; tough on batteries when it get sub-zero
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02-24-2015, 03:33 PM | #9 |
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I had a neighbor that worked at Checker in the mid 80's. We had one terrible winter in town, got to -15. He had a ton of people bring in "bad" batteries, which he took in trade for a new battery. That spring when it warmed up, he cleaned them up, charged them (most had years left on the warranty) and sold them for a good profit. I remember it because all our modern cars would not start, fuel freezing issues, but the old truck with 250K on the tired 235 started right up, gotta love those old huge jets!
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02-24-2015, 03:54 PM | #10 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
I've done well with Optimas and like the dual posts in my app since I can use the side posts for permanent and still have the tops for easy jumper cable access through the door well door.
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02-25-2015, 01:36 PM | #12 |
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I got curious and found that my Diehard, Interstate, Duralast (auto zone) and scores of others, including Optima and OEM, are all made by Johnson Controls. Interesting read here:
http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-...ast-batteries/ So basically, assuming they put the same quality into the same batteries rolling off the line it now becomes a price point issue...
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02-26-2015, 10:17 AM | #13 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
If you have ever owned one of the lower price batteries, you would know they don't put in the same quality.
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02-26-2015, 02:39 PM | #14 |
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Why I said assumed, I have had 48 to 72 month Diehards depending on what was on sale and they all seem to quit about a couple of months over the rated time!
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02-24-2015, 05:11 PM | #15 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
My shop sells Interstate Batteries and a few of the Optima batteries also.We have very few problems with either. Most batteries brought in for warranty are only discharged usually from a different problem. Charging system problem,draw on system,or they sit not being used too long.
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02-24-2015, 08:41 PM | #16 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
How about the biggest (fits the battery tray) and most CCA top post battery with the terminals in the desired spot you can get. I just get traditional batteries, which last well if kept charged.
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02-24-2015, 09:24 PM | #17 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
if i remember right a group size 35 is fairly close to the group 1 6 volt
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02-26-2015, 10:08 AM | #18 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
Don't mean to drag this one out, but here's another one.
http://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com...ive-batteries/ |
02-26-2015, 03:59 PM | #19 |
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Re: Battery size ;)
FWIW, I've found that the battery selection (rating, amps, duty cycle, etc) should be matched with the vehicle and systems it is running in the regular environmental conditions to be expected. It's less about the vehicle and more about what's in the vehicle.
For instance, a high compression engine needs more cranking amps than a low compression engine, or a vehicle with a lot of electrical accessories/systems needs a larger battery than a vehicle with few electrical accessories, etc. In my experience, proper battery selection is less about brand or cell technology than it is about matching the load and duty cycle of the vehicle. Maintaining your battery is part of vehicle ownership, just like changing oil, plugs and belts - some circumstances dictate more attention than others to the battery, however often it is a set it and forget it part. Personally I like the technology of the optima, or any dry cell, battery vs. a conventional lead-acid battery. Improper selection or maintenance can cause any battery to fail prematurely.
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Re: Battery size ;)
Just to put another fly in the ointment, I bought an Odyssey battery for my 27 due to where it had to fit. The thing is about 5" high, 5" wide and 7"long, looks like a glorified motorcycle battery and it's rated at 550 CCA. Cost a bunch but it's been in the car 4+ years, sits in the shop for weeks at a time with no tender, etc. and it starts the SB Ford hot rod motor EVERY time. Probably jinxed myself, but that little thing could be the best hot rod money I ever spent.
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