Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Warrens69GMC** · 08-26-2018, 11:28 AM

I have a friend who has a 1964 GMCc2500 longbed with leaf springs, and he is looking to upgrade the rear axle to a higher gear for better freeway driving.

Current setup per him-
1986 454
Th400
8 lug rear end, 5,13 gearset, leafspring perches
28 inch tall tires rear, 27 inch front tires

So we were thinking 3.55 or 3.73 gears, what can were use as a donar?
Maybe a 1973-1980 Suburban C20 with 3.73?

LVPhotos · 08-26-2018, 11:58 AM

3.73s and 28" tires. Everyone wants to do 75 but no one wants to spend the money on overdrive. My 81 did 3000rpm at 75 350/350 3.08s and 27 in tires

**Warrens69GMC** · 08-26-2018, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVPhotos

3.73s and 28" tires. Everyone wants to do 75 but no one wants to spend the money on overdrive. My 81 did 3000rpm at 75 350/350 3.08s and 27 in tires

I fully understand what you are saying.

Currently the 5.13/28/th400/2500rpms =40.6mph
Thinking the 3.73/28/th400/2500rpms = 55.85mph
Or maybe the 3.55/28/th400/2500rpms=58.69mph

Just trying to get an easy to swap gear from the 5.13 that is in it now. Overdrive may come later.

With a 4l80E-
5.13/28/4l80e/2500rpms-54.15mph

So the axle gearset has to change.

LostMy65 · 08-26-2018, 02:07 PM

I'd convert over to a 14-bolt.
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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624445
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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550878
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LostMy65 · 08-26-2018, 02:10 PM

Oops, I'm sorry. I saw you already alluded to that at the end of your post.

**aotte1** · 08-26-2018, 11:01 PM

You could also look at a 34” tall tire 255x85x16 tires on newer chevy 3/4 ton wheels(6.5x16) with the 4 nubs, around 1972. I have the toyo M55 tires in this size and they are 34” tall.

Les

**Captainfab** · 08-27-2018, 12:20 AM

With a 454 you could likely get away with a 3.08 gear. But finding a 14 bolt with those gears won't be easy.

**Warrens69GMC** · 08-27-2018, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab

With a 454 you could likely get away with a 3.08 gear. But finding a 14 bolt with those gears won't be easy.

What years for the 14 bolt? He wants a bolt in, no major mods to get it in.

Killer Bee · 08-27-2018, 02:16 AM

what axle is in it now? I picked up a leaf sprung D60 out of a 66 gmc with 4.10 and limited slip for $400..

if it has a dana in it, carrier swap and gear choice of that range may be possible and certainly easiest fix..

I believe carriers change between 4.10 / 4.56 so 4.10 carrier or complete axle with one would take taller gears..

good luck!

buds56 · 08-27-2018, 12:12 PM

Reaching into my memory so the measurements may not be 100%

Spring center bolt spacing on your gmc 40"

73 up square body C20 43" with a 6" tall frame center section

73 up C30 40" also includes all the 3+3 crew cabs with a 9" tall frame center section

But if you have a Dana 60 in it I would switch the gears and carrier and be done IMO

All those rears you'll find now are at least 40 yrs old and will more than likely need money put in them to make reliable. When I did mine the donor trucks were not very old and the GMC brake drums were scarce(early 80's)
Good Luck

Killer Bee · 08-27-2018, 12:54 PM

^ good point there.. forgot about this thread where I found a bunch of similar info..

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=535453

post 8 in particular expands a little on what Bud posted above..

interested to see what's in there now, good luck!

**Warrens69GMC** · 08-28-2018, 09:50 PM

I contacted him to get me pictures.

**72cs20** · 08-29-2018, 01:55 PM

If you are looking for a bolt-in swap, you may want to look at a Dana 60 from an 71-72 F250. When I converted my 65 GMC Suburban from 6 lug axles to 8 lug, I used a Dana 60 from an 72 F250 and it fit without modification to the spring perches. These can be had pretty cheap and there are plenty of gear choices available.

LVPhotos · 09-01-2018, 06:20 PM

https://spicerparts.com/calculators/...rpm-calculator

**Warrens69GMC** · 09-27-2018, 09:26 AM

pics

LostMy65 · 09-27-2018, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrens69GMC

pics

That appears to be a Dana.
Definitely not an Eaton.

**Captainfab** · 09-27-2018, 11:54 PM

That's a Dana 60.

Killer Bee · 09-28-2018, 12:05 AM

^ yep, sure looks it

check the casting numbers to be sure.. carrier groups determine available ratio ranges..

axle spline are also relevant, but for the most part, Dana axles are fully supported in the aftermarket..

general info https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_60

I covered some Dana info here, good luck!

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...48&postcount=8

08-26-2018, 11:28 AM	#1
Warrens69GMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Safford,AZ Posts: 3,625	Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 I have a friend who has a 1964 GMCc2500 longbed with leaf springs, and he is looking to upgrade the rear axle to a higher gear for better freeway driving. Current setup per him- 1986 454 Th400 8 lug rear end, 5,13 gearset, leafspring perches 28 inch tall tires rear, 27 inch front tires So we were thinking 3.55 or 3.73 gears, what can were use as a donar? Maybe a 1973-1980 Suburban C20 with 3.73? __________________ 1969 307, t350 1950 Chevy Wagon 1978 Big 10 1967 C10, 250,3-OTT

08-26-2018, 11:58 AM	#2
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,857	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 3.73s and 28" tires. Everyone wants to do 75 but no one wants to spend the money on overdrive. My 81 did 3000rpm at 75 350/350 3.08s and 27 in tires Attached Images __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

08-26-2018, 02:07 PM	#4
LostMy65 But Found Her 25yrs Later! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 10,530	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 I'd convert over to a 14-bolt. . http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624445 . http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550878 . __________________ I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650 66 C20 Service Truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035

08-26-2018, 02:10 PM	#5
LostMy65 But Found Her 25yrs Later! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 10,530	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 Oops, I'm sorry. I saw you already alluded to that at the end of your post. __________________ I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650 66 C20 Service Truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035

08-26-2018, 11:01 PM	#6
aotte1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: lousiville Ky Posts: 2,645	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 You could also look at a 34” tall tire 255x85x16 tires on newer chevy 3/4 ton wheels(6.5x16) with the 4 nubs, around 1972. I have the toyo M55 tires in this size and they are 34” tall. Les

08-27-2018, 12:20 AM	#7
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 With a 454 you could likely get away with a 3.08 gear. But finding a 14 bolt with those gears won't be easy. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

08-27-2018, 02:16 AM	#9
Killer Bee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barber City, CA Posts: 4,813	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 what axle is in it now? I picked up a leaf sprung D60 out of a 66 gmc with 4.10 and limited slip for $400.. if it has a dana in it, carrier swap and gear choice of that range may be possible and certainly easiest fix.. I believe carriers change between 4.10 / 4.56 so 4.10 carrier or complete axle with one would take taller gears.. good luck! __________________ *I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it*

08-27-2018, 12:12 PM	#10
buds56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: virginia Posts: 100	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 Reaching into my memory so the measurements may not be 100% Spring center bolt spacing on your gmc 40" 73 up square body C20 43" with a 6" tall frame center section 73 up C30 40" also includes all the 3+3 crew cabs with a 9" tall frame center section But if you have a Dana 60 in it I would switch the gears and carrier and be done IMO All those rears you'll find now are at least 40 yrs old and will more than likely need money put in them to make reliable. When I did mine the donor trucks were not very old and the GMC brake drums were scarce(early 80's) Good Luck

08-27-2018, 12:54 PM	#11
Killer Bee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barber City, CA Posts: 4,813	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 ^ good point there.. forgot about this thread where I found a bunch of similar info.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=535453 post 8 in particular expands a little on what Bud posted above.. interested to see what's in there now, good luck! __________________ *I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it*

08-28-2018, 09:50 PM	#12
Warrens69GMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Safford,AZ Posts: 3,625	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 I contacted him to get me pictures. __________________ 1969 307, t350 1950 Chevy Wagon 1978 Big 10 1967 C10, 250,3-OTT

08-29-2018, 01:55 PM	#13
72cs20 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Los Gatos, Ca. Posts: 407	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 If you are looking for a bolt-in swap, you may want to look at a Dana 60 from an 71-72 F250. When I converted my 65 GMC Suburban from 6 lug axles to 8 lug, I used a Dana 60 from an 72 F250 and it fit without modification to the spring perches. These can be had pretty cheap and there are plenty of gear choices available. __________________ 1966 K20 flatbed build thread - http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=768827 62 C20 build thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=703583

09-01-2018, 06:20 PM	#14
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,857	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 https://spicerparts.com/calculators/...rpm-calculator __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

09-27-2018, 09:26 AM	#15
Warrens69GMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Safford,AZ Posts: 3,625	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 pics Attached Images __________________ 1969 307, t350 1950 Chevy Wagon 1978 Big 10 1967 C10, 250,3-OTT

09-27-2018, 11:54 PM	#17
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 That's a Dana 60. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

09-28-2018, 12:05 AM	#18
Killer Bee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barber City, CA Posts: 4,813	Re: Rear axle options, 1964 GMC C2500 ^ yep, sure looks it check the casting numbers to be sure.. carrier groups determine available ratio ranges.. axle spline are also relevant, but for the most part, Dana axles are fully supported in the aftermarket.. general info https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_60 I covered some Dana info here, good luck! http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...48&postcount=8 __________________ *I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it*



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