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Old 01-26-2019, 08:03 PM   #1
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Where to put the PCM???

Hi guys,

Where is everybody putting their PCMs on the 64-66 trucks? I have a 65 GMC 5.3 swap going on and I'd like to hide all the wiring but am also adding Vintage Air so space is limited. Please post up your pics and suggestions, thanks!

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Old 01-26-2019, 09:37 PM   #2
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Put mine under the seat
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:05 PM   #3
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Put mine under the seat
And the fuses and relays? Do you have carpet over all the wiring? Any pics?
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Old 01-27-2019, 12:17 AM   #4
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

I'd go under the seat if possible with everything..
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Orignally had mine mounted on the inner fender well with fuses etc, but when I rebuilt my truck and ditched the inners, we relocated all the ecm stuff to the passenger upper footwell area. May not be an option since you'll have a/c ducting.
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:23 AM   #6
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

For those that are locating them under the seat on a 64-66 what harness is long enough, aftermarket? Rewired OEM? I would appreciate any pics you have.
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I don’t have pictures but wiring onder carpet made my own harness
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

I've used PSI on all my swaps...their harnesses have 4-5 ft of wire from the back of the head...I contacted several of the "store bought" harness makers and none would make a longer harness.....with the LS swap being so popular ,you would think someone would offer a long harness...if you build your own you can make it however you want....I know PSI is coming out with a DIY kit...
Of all the engines I've bought I have yet to get the factory harness that wasn't damaged in some way....
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I've used PSI on all my swaps...their harnesses have 4-5 ft of wire from the back of the head...I contacted several of the "store bought" harness makers and none would make a longer harness.....with the LS swap being so popular ,you would think someone would offer a long harness...if you build your own you can make it however you want....I know PSI is coming out with a DIY kit...
Of all the engines I've bought I have yet to get the factory harness that wasn't damaged in some way....
5ft mite be long enough
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I've used PSI on all my swaps...their harnesses have 4-5 ft of wire from the back of the head...I contacted several of the "store bought" harness makers and none would make a longer harness.....with the LS swap being so popular ,you would think someone would offer a long harness...if you build your own you can make it however you want....I know PSI is coming out with a DIY kit...
Of all the engines I've bought I have yet to get the factory harness that wasn't damaged in some way....
Ask for the Van harness instead of the truck harness. It adds length to the main trunk of the harness.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:00 PM   #11
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Ask for the Van harness instead of the truck harness. It adds length to the main trunk of the harness.
Who sells a converted van harness??
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Call BP Automotive. Their harness is made to put the PCM under the seat. The one for my 71 is more than long enough. The harness is a work of art as well. Labled and easy to install.
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Call BP Automotive. Their harness is made to put the PCM under the seat. The one for my 71 is more than long enough. The harness is a work of art as well. Labled and easy to install.
Called them, they provide 5ft of wire from the back of the passenger side of the intake. My PSI harness for the manual trans I'm taking out is only 4ft so the extra foot may allow it to be mounted under the seat.
They will also extend it 3' for $100
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Thanks 71 step...Wish I knew that before....BP is one I didnt contact...
and thanks brew...I'll have to remember that next time about a van harness
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

I've got computer below the radiator and the relays are on the inner fender tucked up against the core support. Makes for a nice and seamless install that doesn't draw a lot of attention to the things that aren't supposed to be there.





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I've got computer below the radiator and the relays are on the inner fender tucked up against the core support. Makes for a nice and seamless install that doesn't draw a lot of attention to the things that aren't supposed to be there.





Won't there be a lot of water hitting that if driving in a rain storm? I definitely like the clean look though.
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Won't there be a lot of water hitting that if driving in a rain storm? I definitely like the clean look though.
Potentially, yes but remember that these computers use sealed connectors and they also have a water intrusion rating. I don't drive in the rain on purpose but when I have been caught in it, it hasn't been an issue. They get doused with water all the time in 4x4s so it really isn't any different.
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Who sells a converted van harness??
If your providing a donor harness for rework, anyone will do it the same as a regular truck harness. If your having a harness made, just ask, some will make you the harness instead of just selling a premade truck swap harness for everything.



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Potentially, yes but remember that these computers use sealed connectors and they also have a water intrusion rating. I don't drive in the rain on purpose but when I have been caught in it, it hasn't been an issue. They get doused with water all the time in 4x4s so it really isn't any different.
Back when my ECM and harness were on the inner fender, I drove without a hood to the CarCraft Nationals and got caught in a freaking torrent. The intake tube was less happy, the harness and computer didn't care.
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Hi guys,

Where is everybody putting their PCMs on the 64-66 trucks? I have a 65 GMC 5.3 swap going on and I'd like to hide all the wiring but am also adding Vintage Air so space is limited. Please post up your pics and suggestions, thanks!

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Mounted mine right behind the cluster, right above the parking brake assembly. Fits snug but it fits.
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Mounted mine right behind the cluster, right above the parking brake assembly. Fits snug but it fits.
Must see pics!
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Here is what mine looks like in a 71.
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

I am mounting mine under the seat. I am using a PSI harness. I can attest that I wish the PSI was about a foot longer. It will work, but the extra wire would have been nice.

My mount is from Motobilt https://www.motobilt.com/product/ls_engine_ecm_mount
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Here is what mine looks like in a 71.
can you give me a measurement to compare my harness to so i can see if my harness will be long enough? Mine is from speartech but theres just not really a good way to tell without drilling the hole first i think. Love the utube vids btw.
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Re: Where to put the PCM???

Bolted it to the rad support on the grille side, tucked away nice out of sight. My harness was a 2008 van harness so was extra long but was easy to tuck all the slack wire in under grille/rad support
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Lengthen a stock harness?

Is it an option to lengthen a stock harness? I assume it would involve splicing to make the PCM end of the harness longer. I like the idea of mounting the PCM somewhere out of the way like under the console/seat or behind the glove box but I assume the stock harness is too short. I've seen them mounted to the inner fender but it's not a very clean look.
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