The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain > LSx Swaps

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-28-2019, 12:42 PM   #1
MDPotter
Senior Member
 
MDPotter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Western Colorado
Posts: 1,165
Gen IV & Vintage Air

I've been thinking about this setup on my dad's 64 for a few weeks am not convinced it's right or maybe I just don't understand it. It's a Gen IV 5.3 with a Dewitts radiator/dual Spal fan setup. The radiator/fan setup came with relays and a harness and we used the trigger wires from the PCM to control them and my understanding is that the PCM turns on the first fan when the coolant reaches somewhere around 210 and the second comes on when it hits 230 or so. I don't know if these fans have a low/high function or not, they've only ran at what seems to be full blast.

We took the truck to a local shop to have them charge the Vintage Air system as they have experience with them. We had previously installed the trinary switch, but the shop told us we need to install a 3rd relay to control the fan so it comes on whenever the compressor is engaged. The other day, it was in the 70s and sitting idling, the compressor would engage for a few seconds at a time, so the fan was cycling every few seconds. Is that the correct operation? It just seems like the fan is going to get worn out with that much cycling and at this point I don't even know what the trinary switch does.
__________________
1964 Chevy C10 - Gen IV 5.3 Restomod http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=768632
1968 GMC C15 - Gen III 6.0 Restomod http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=772047
1969 Chevy C10 - Restoration http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=809184
1978 Chevy Scottsdale K20
1993 Chevy C1500 - 5.3/T56 swapped
2008 Silverado Duramax
MDPotter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 06:54 PM   #2
sprint_9
Registered User
 
sprint_9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: 9
Posts: 862
Re: Gen IV & Vintage Air

That doesnt sound right.

I posted some info in this thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=776599

As far as I know that info is correct, but I have not tested it myself yet. I can confirm that within HPtuners there is a table for AC system pressures and fan set points. I am hoping that the switch talked about in the above post relays that info to the ECM and it runs the fans according to the pressure relayed by that switch.

Last edited by sprint_9; 05-29-2019 at 07:11 PM.
sprint_9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 08:02 PM   #3
Clyde65
1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60
 
Clyde65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 8,546
Re: Gen IV & Vintage Air

I’m not sure but I believe the gen IV compressors are different and don’t work the best, the Gen III is what I run with my Old Air Products AC.

I run a trinary and have the pcm turn on the one fan at 190, then the other at 210 or when AC is turned on. Hope this helps.
__________________
Clyde65

Rebuild of Clyde
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184

69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684



support our troops!
Clyde65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2019, 12:54 AM   #4
First c10
Registered User
 
First c10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Los Banos CA
Posts: 2,705
Re: Gen IV & Vintage Air

I think a trinary switch gives you 12+ when calling for fans so you will need a relay for a negative trigger for the cooling fans. Is this correct?

I think even with a trinary switch, the fans cycle when the ac compressor is engaged as soon as the pressure gets to the trinary fan set point and when it drops the fans turn off.
__________________
1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door
1956 Chevy 210 4 Door
1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD
1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E
1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR *SOLD*
GO GO!!!
First c10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2019, 03:01 AM   #5
ls1nova71
Registered User
 
ls1nova71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Independence Mo
Posts: 4,119
Re: Gen IV & Vintage Air

A trinary switch is just that, a switch. Whether it provides power or ground depends on how its wired up. If you put power to one side of it, then when it turns on it will supply power, same goes for if you put one side to ground then the other side will be grounded when closed.
__________________
My '72 short bed build. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...6-0-4l80e.html

5.3 swap into my RUSTY '71 C10
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...71-c-10-a.html
ls1nova71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com