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ocbaud · 12-12-2004, 09:28 PM

went to the track tonight. i believe i collapsed a lifter. i pulled the valve cover on that side and the pushrod was just chillin below the valve guide and with a flashlight pointed in there, i cant see the lifter.....

so.. i get to pull my intake this week

TIMSPEED · 12-12-2004, 10:36 PM

Not good...did you get to run it down the track at all??

ocbaud · 12-12-2004, 10:56 PM

yeah,it was really slick and it spun through all 3 gears and i didnt get traction till half way down the track.

ran a mid 16

cochran63 · 12-12-2004, 11:27 PM

seems like your truck has been mad at you ever since the posi install... you gotta love that good GM feeling.

gchemist · 12-13-2004, 12:17 AM

One more reason to go to roller lifters!!!!

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gchemist

One more reason to go to roller lifters!!!!

or... how about you pay for them for me??

so guys, am i gonna need to replace all the lifters? and if not, where is a good place to buy just 1 lifter??

phantom dually · 12-13-2004, 01:03 AM

I would think that one would be fine but as cheap as they are??? Go roller or a solid cam to boost the power!!

MylilBowTie · 12-13-2004, 01:10 AM

Depending on what all happened (damaged) you may need to replace the cam also.

plumbcut · 12-13-2004, 02:22 AM

in my experience- its unlikely that you'll be as lucky as to just have to replace a lifter.. if it is the case- you can buy a single lifter at any machine shop, should only be a few bucks. I wouldnt replace any of the others if they're fine. It will just make the chance of wiping out a cam lobe that much better. Replace the one thats bad and break it in and make sure all the other lifters get put back on their appropriate lobe during reassembly.

pc

*1972C10* · 12-13-2004, 02:22 AM

I doubt he would ever manage to set a solid cam ..

Possibilty you can get away with putting in one lifter you should be able to buy them individually But like stated the cam could be damaged

low 84 · 12-13-2004, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1972C10

I doubt he would ever manage to set a solid cam ..

Possibilty you can get away with putting in one lifter you should be able to buy them individually But like stated the cam could be damaged

why would you doubt that? its not rocket science. i drove mine every day for over 6 months when i first put the 408 in it. valves needed adjustment about once a month and thats with daily driving. arp poly locks work wonders. now that i only drive it a couple times a week it can go months without needing adjustment

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 02:34 AM

so, what are the chances of me needing to replace the cam??

Tom · 12-13-2004, 03:39 AM

50/50.....pull the intake and find out

low 84 · 12-13-2004, 10:15 AM

what made you think you collapsed a lifter and not wiped a cam lobe? what kind of diagnostics have you done so far? stop asking questions and go pull the intake and find out, lol

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by low 84

what made you think you collapsed a lifter and not wiped a cam lobe? what kind of diagnostics have you done so far? stop asking questions and go pull the intake and find out, lol

got work today, cant pull the intake yet.

i took off the valve cover, and actually the retaining nut to a rocker arm had come off, i have no clue how either. the pushrod was in the place it was supposed to be but it was very very far down in there. i took a flashlight and saw a lifter on one side, but the other lifter looked like it was missing.

87 Shortwide · 12-13-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ocbaud

got work today, cant pull the intake yet.

i took off the valve cover, and actually the retaining nut to a rocker arm had come off, i have no clue how either. the pushrod was in the place it was supposed to be but it was very very far down in there. i took a flashlight and saw a lifter on one side, but the other lifter looked like it was missing.

Did you locate the nut?

Lifter missing as in you saw an open lifter hole? Thats frightening, because lifters dong go that far down in the holes before they touch the cam...

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 87 Shortwide

Did you locate the nut?

Lifter missing as in you saw an open lifter hole? Thats frightening, because lifters dong go that far down in the holes before they touch the cam...

yeah, i found the nut, and from what i saw, it was missing

LOHRTBT · 12-13-2004, 10:52 AM

Hey Eric.....ever hear of LIFTING off the gas when you start spinning/? lol When you start spinning there is no reason to even keep trying to get a good # cause its just not gonna happen if your midway through 2nd or 3rd and still spinning. just let off and save your truck parts from the damage that has been done already. Patience grasshoppah.

LOHRTBT · 12-13-2004, 10:53 AM

Not to mention the fact that you should have called me, I was gonna go and see if they would let me run the truck foolio! But I wasnt feeling the best anyhow.

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 02:55 PM

i just took some pictures and looked again, the picturees didnt come out well because hte guide plates are in the way but.....

yes, the lifter has gone missing. i was looking down into where the lifter should be, and i saw a cam lobe....

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 03:01 PM

LOHRTBT · 12-13-2004, 02:56 PM

Smooth Move Ex Lax

ocbaud · 12-13-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LOHRTBT

Smooth Move Ex Lax

stfu

*1FaastC10* · 12-13-2004, 03:29 PM

sounds like you just lost the rocker arm nut, then it slung the push rod and lifter out of the hole. no big deal really.

LOHRTBT · 12-13-2004, 03:54 PM

I always said you had a nut loose

12-12-2004, 09:28 PM	#1
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	i broke my truck went to the track tonight. i believe i collapsed a lifter. i pulled the valve cover on that side and the pushrod was just chillin below the valve guide and with a flashlight pointed in there, i cant see the lifter..... so.. i get to pull my intake this week

12-12-2004, 10:36 PM	#2
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	Not good...did you get to run it down the track at all?? __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

12-12-2004, 11:27 PM	#4
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	seems like your truck has been mad at you ever since the posi install... you gotta love that good GM feeling. __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time.

12-13-2004, 01:03 AM	#7
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I would think that one would be fine but as cheap as they are??? Go roller or a solid cam to boost the power!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

12-13-2004, 01:10 AM	#8
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	Depending on what all happened (damaged) you may need to replace the cam also. __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI

12-12-2004, 10:56 PM	#3
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	yeah,it was really slick and it spun through all 3 gears and i didnt get traction till half way down the track. ran a mid 16

12-13-2004, 12:17 AM	#5
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	One more reason to go to roller lifters!!!!

12-13-2004, 02:22 AM	#9
plumbcut california fill Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sunny So-Cal Posts: 694	in my experience- its unlikely that you'll be as lucky as to just have to replace a lifter.. if it is the case- you can buy a single lifter at any machine shop, should only be a few bucks. I wouldnt replace any of the others if they're fine. It will just make the chance of wiping out a cam lobe that much better. Replace the one thats bad and break it in and make sure all the other lifters get put back on their appropriate lobe during reassembly. pc

12-13-2004, 02:22 AM	#10
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	I doubt he would ever manage to set a solid cam .. Possibilty you can get away with putting in one lifter you should be able to buy them individually But like stated the cam could be damaged

12-13-2004, 02:34 AM	#12
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	so, what are the chances of me needing to replace the cam??

12-13-2004, 03:39 AM	#13
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	50/50.....pull the intake and find out __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

12-13-2004, 10:15 AM	#14
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	what made you think you collapsed a lifter and not wiped a cam lobe? what kind of diagnostics have you done so far? stop asking questions and go pull the intake and find out, lol __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

12-13-2004, 10:52 AM	#18
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Hey Eric.....ever hear of LIFTING off the gas when you start spinning/? lol When you start spinning there is no reason to even keep trying to get a good # cause its just not gonna happen if your midway through 2nd or 3rd and still spinning. just let off and save your truck parts from the damage that has been done already. Patience grasshoppah. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

12-13-2004, 10:53 AM	#19
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Not to mention the fact that you should have called me, I was gonna go and see if they would let me run the truck foolio! But I wasnt feeling the best anyhow. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

12-13-2004, 02:55 PM	#20
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	i just took some pictures and looked again, the picturees didnt come out well because hte guide plates are in the way but..... yes, the lifter has gone missing. i was looking down into where the lifter should be, and i saw a cam lobe....



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12-13-2004, 03:01 PM	#21
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129

12-13-2004, 02:56 PM	#22
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Smooth Move Ex Lax __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

12-13-2004, 03:29 PM	#24
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	sounds like you just lost the rocker arm nut, then it slung the push rod and lifter out of the hole. no big deal really.

12-13-2004, 03:54 PM	#25
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I always said you had a nut loose __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

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