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makovai · 08-25-2006, 12:18 AM

Well...... I took the first step to the 3/4 ton running gear. I'm planning on putting the new 40" good years on my rig, but i figured i better toughin up the drivetrain first. I now own a 14 bolt corporate and another dana 44 but with a 8 lug.
Or as my wife explained to her friend as I was rolling them into the garage "4 tires and a couple of sticks"

MNorby · 08-25-2006, 12:38 AM

What gears are they? Looks like there isn't a pinion shaft in the 14FF. I plan on the same, Already have everything except 8 lug outers for the 44. Am planning on running either 35s or 36s I have laying around. I hope the 44 holds up. Post pics of the swap! Can't wait to see.

IGOR · 08-25-2006, 12:55 AM

I can't believe you got those unloaded by yourself. And where's the props, dude?

makovai · 08-25-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IGOR

I can't believe you got those unloaded by yourself. And where's the props, dude?

Lets give props where they are due. Igor went with me as a consultant. He examined, touched, fondled, and played with the rear end, he said it was a go and i bought it

. Actually he helped me alot and I appriciate it.

My 1/2 ton setup is running 4:56 gears and I'm doing 3200 RPM's at 60 mph, this new setup has 4:10 gears and i think it will improve my gas mileage from the 6 1/2 MPG i get now clear up to a hefty 7MPG.

The pinion is there it just isn't attached. The only thing i dont like about it is the wheels are 16.5, so I'll prolly have to buy new wheels but i can can use these until i get thing rolling.

I'll prolly take all winter making these look pretty, moving spring mounts, making new shock brackets, etc.... but some day i can be kewl and say "I have the 3/4 ton running gear.

2wdBlazer · 08-25-2006, 10:13 AM

Welcome to the 3/4 ton Blazer club. We are a rare breed. It would be a mistake not to run 4.56 gears though with 40 inch tires. I would definatly not run 4.10 unless you were 36 inch or smaller. Your milage may even suffer from having to work harder to get it up to speed.

makovai · 08-25-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 2wdBlazer

Welcome to the 3/4 ton Blazer club. We are a rare breed. It would be a mistake not to run 4.56 gears though with 40 inch tires. I would definatly not run 4.10 unless you were 36 inch or smaller. Your milage may even suffer from having to work harder to get it up to speed.

It figures. I have the 4:56 gears in my 12 bolt, but of corse i dont have a ring and pinion in my D44 so i would need to buy both front and rear.

Since i already have the 4:10 gears I'll prolly set it up and see how it works, but you is prolly right, I'll be switching soon after.

IGOR · 08-25-2006, 10:47 AM

Look on Ebay - you can find used gears all the time - you shouldn't have a hard time finding a set of gears

MNorby · 08-25-2006, 11:48 AM

I have 4.56s in my D60/14FF combo on my truggy with 40" TSLs and it works good and sometimes I wish for 5.13s... but that when the doubler kicks in

makovai · 08-25-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MNorby

I have 4.56s in my D60/14FF combo on my truggy with 40" TSLs and it works good and sometimes I wish for 5.13s... but that when the doubler kicks in

please post pics of this rig

MNorby · 08-25-2006, 12:07 PM

Once upon a time:

Currently:

IGOR · 08-25-2006, 12:35 PM

nice!

krue · 08-25-2006, 01:08 PM

The 3/4 ton gear swap is on my list.

onetonk5 · 08-25-2006, 02:26 PM

thats a great upgrade.....im planning on using a 9.5 ring gear sf 14 bolt and keep my truck 6 lug. I just dont feel the need to lug around the extra weight of a ff 14 bolt but if your ever planning on doing much offroad it gives you the confidence that your most likely not going to have any rear end problems.unless your running mega power and Big tires. A disk brake swap is simple and pretty cheap.

2wdBlazer · 08-25-2006, 02:53 PM

If you don't drive interstate alot a 4.88 would be perfect. 4.56 if you do hit the interstate.

LUV2XCLR8 · 08-25-2006, 04:41 PM

vtblazer · 08-25-2006, 07:05 PM

You'll love the new beef for sure.

What are you planning on for suspension? Going longer springs?

makovai · 08-26-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer

You'll love the new beef for sure.

What are you planning on for suspension? Going longer springs?

the suspension will remain the same I just put new springs (skyjacker 8" softrides) so I'm gonna make the new running gear fit that. The front should bolt right up, especially since im just gonna change the ends and keep my original pumpkin. The rear will have to be moddified for the narrower spring pads.

bouncytruck · 08-25-2006, 07:23 PM

I had 4:10's in my '69 with 35's and it was perfect. I was getting in the 6-8 range with that rig. I think your going to see you MPG drop with the 4:10's and the bigger tires. My '72 with the stock tires, engine and 3:07 gears is getting 12-13mpg.

IGOR · 08-25-2006, 08:02 PM

Well it's official Jim - the Board has spoken - you must go 4.88s or 5.13s! My vote is 4.88 - it's your toy anyway

You can get 5.38s for a 14 bolt now too - but the supplier (Randy's Ring & Pinion) is getting roasted on Pirate4x4.com right now for machining grooves in the pinion bearing support shaft in the 5.38 gear set - the "Pirate" jury is still out on whether this is okay or not.

makovai · 08-31-2006, 09:23 AM

I took the first step to get me motivated. I sold the wheels and tires. I think it shows alot of class. Not just anybody would let there blazer be seen like this.

bpmcgee · 08-31-2006, 09:53 AM

ROFL.

You're going to need a bigger jack!

Brian

IGOR · 08-31-2006, 10:00 AM

What's up pimpin?

2wdBlazer · 08-31-2006, 03:37 PM

Reminds me of Bouncytruck!! :nut:

IGOR · 08-31-2006, 04:25 PM

Man that was low!

Southedisto · 08-31-2006, 04:30 PM

So whats with the picture of the 4 small tires? Congrats on the upgrade, are you converting to disc in the rear?

08-25-2006, 12:18 AM	#1
makovai Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: oregon city Posts: 335	Soon i can play with the big boys Well...... I took the first step to the 3/4 ton running gear. I'm planning on putting the new 40" good years on my rig, but i figured i better toughin up the drivetrain first. I now own a 14 bolt corporate and another dana 44 but with a 8 lug. Or as my wife explained to her friend as I was rolling them into the garage "4 tires and a couple of sticks" __________________ If it aint broke..............fix it till it is. www.fast77.com 1972 - 330 hp crate, 11" lift with 39x18 mickeys. 3/4 ton, cross steer, 4 wheel disc brakes 1996 Z71 w/ 35's

08-25-2006, 12:38 AM	#2
MNorby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powell, Wy Posts: 135	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys What gears are they? Looks like there isn't a pinion shaft in the 14FF. I plan on the same, Already have everything except 8 lug outers for the 44. Am planning on running either 35s or 36s I have laying around. I hope the 44 holds up. Post pics of the swap! Can't wait to see. Last edited by MNorby; 08-25-2006 at 12:38 AM.

08-25-2006, 12:55 AM	#3
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys I can't believe you got those unloaded by yourself. And where's the props, dude? __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/

08-25-2006, 10:13 AM	#5
2wdBlazer The Blazer King Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa) Posts: 1,212	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Welcome to the 3/4 ton Blazer club. We are a rare breed. It would be a mistake not to run 4.56 gears though with 40 inch tires. I would definatly not run 4.10 unless you were 36 inch or smaller. Your milage may even suffer from having to work harder to get it up to speed. __________________ 72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.

08-25-2006, 10:47 AM	#7
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Look on Ebay - you can find used gears all the time - you shouldn't have a hard time finding a set of gears __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/

08-25-2006, 11:48 AM	#8
MNorby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powell, Wy Posts: 135	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys I have 4.56s in my D60/14FF combo on my truggy with 40" TSLs and it works good and sometimes I wish for 5.13s... but that when the doubler kicks in

08-25-2006, 12:07 PM	#10
MNorby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powell, Wy Posts: 135	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Once upon a time: Currently:

08-25-2006, 12:35 PM	#11
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys nice! __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/

08-25-2006, 01:08 PM	#12
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys The 3/4 ton gear swap is on my list. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck" Last edited by krue; 08-25-2006 at 01:08 PM.

08-25-2006, 02:26 PM	#13
onetonk5 Cereal Killer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 639	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys thats a great upgrade.....im planning on using a 9.5 ring gear sf 14 bolt and keep my truck 6 lug. I just dont feel the need to lug around the extra weight of a ff 14 bolt but if your ever planning on doing much offroad it gives you the confidence that your most likely not going to have any rear end problems.unless your running mega power and Big tires. A disk brake swap is simple and pretty cheap.

08-25-2006, 02:53 PM	#14
2wdBlazer The Blazer King Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa) Posts: 1,212	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys If you don't drive interstate alot a 4.88 would be perfect. 4.56 if you do hit the interstate. __________________ 72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.

08-25-2006, 04:41 PM	#15
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

08-25-2006, 07:05 PM	#16
vtblazer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Vermont Posts: 8,537	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys You'll love the new beef for sure. What are you planning on for suspension? Going longer springs? Last edited by vtblazer; 08-25-2006 at 09:53 PM.

08-25-2006, 07:23 PM	#18
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,038	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys I had 4:10's in my '69 with 35's and it was perfect. I was getting in the 6-8 range with that rig. I think your going to see you MPG drop with the 4:10's and the bigger tires. My '72 with the stock tires, engine and 3:07 gears is getting 12-13mpg. __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

08-25-2006, 08:02 PM	#19
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Well it's official Jim - the Board has spoken - you must go 4.88s or 5.13s! My vote is 4.88 - it's your toy anyway You can get 5.38s for a 14 bolt now too - but the supplier (Randy's Ring & Pinion) is getting roasted on Pirate4x4.com right now for machining grooves in the pinion bearing support shaft in the 5.38 gear set - the "Pirate" jury is still out on whether this is okay or not. __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/



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08-31-2006, 09:23 AM	#20
makovai Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: oregon city Posts: 335	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys I took the first step to get me motivated. I sold the wheels and tires. I think it shows alot of class. Not just anybody would let there blazer be seen like this. __________________ If it aint broke..............fix it till it is. www.fast77.com 1972 - 330 hp crate, 11" lift with 39x18 mickeys. 3/4 ton, cross steer, 4 wheel disc brakes 1996 Z71 w/ 35's

08-31-2006, 09:53 AM	#21
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys ROFL. You're going to need a bigger jack! Brian

08-31-2006, 10:00 AM	#22
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys What's up pimpin? __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/

08-31-2006, 03:37 PM	#23
2wdBlazer The Blazer King Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa) Posts: 1,212	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Reminds me of Bouncytruck!! :nut: __________________ 72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.

08-31-2006, 04:25 PM	#24
IGOR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Damascus, OR Posts: 260	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys Man that was low! __________________ -Ben 1972 CST K5 - Undergoing frame off, 8.1/4L80E/NP205, 3/4 ton, 8" lift, currently a pile of parts that when assembled resemble a Blazer 1972 K10 - Rust Bucket, TBD 1976 C10 SWB, 350 / T350 My blazer build thread: https://ck5.com/forums/builds/72-k5-...17-update.410/

08-31-2006, 04:30 PM	#25
Southedisto River life...... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soldotna AK Posts: 1,078	Re: Soon i can play with the big boys So whats with the picture of the 4 small tires? Congrats on the upgrade, are you converting to disc in the rear? __________________ I like wheelin in Dixie!

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