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Old 10-02-2006, 11:17 AM   #1
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5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

has any one ever done this aside from having to re drill the front rotors like adding ones from cars or some thing like that. The reason is that the wheels that i bought for my truck happen to be that bolt pattern. I know stupid buy some that fit , but they dont make them.

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Old 10-02-2006, 12:53 PM   #2
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has any one ever done this aside from having to re drill the front rotors like adding ones from cars or some thing like that. The reason is that the wheels that i bought for my truck happen to be that bolt pattern. I know stupid buy some that fit , but they dont make them.

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You will need to have your rotors re-drilled to 4.75", machine the nose cone down to 2.750 and then mill off the cast ribs on the back so the studs will fit... I've done it a few times! It's the only option... unless you buy a wheel adapter, which will add a couple inches on each side to the track width.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:24 PM   #3
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

I've always wondered if anyone has ever tried to fit GM A-body rotors on truck spindles or A-body spindle AND rotors on our trucks. The rotors on A-bodies up to the late 70's are the same outer diameter and GM used common parts on a LOT of vehicles.

4.75" bolt pattern opens up to MANY more wheel choices. Weld rodlites (a beautiful wheel IMO) for instance are not available in 5x5 pattern.

It seems like I remember some of the early disk brake conversion kits used car rotors and spindles.
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:14 PM   #4
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

My 74 has re-drilled front rotors just like Porterbuilt described.

For the rears, I had the rear axles & drums re-drilled & for the 74 I used billet adapters because it was easier & put the wheels exactly where I wanted.
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:33 PM   #5
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

My memory isn't the best but for some reason something about a camaro 1le brake option comes to mind. Don't know what year but it is a 12 rotor with the smaller bolt pattern. it was an option on third gen camaro's for showroom stock racing(road racing). Definity can't remember which wheel bearings are needed.
The guys on third gen should know
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:31 PM   #6
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

You could prob cross reference a Hollanders manual to see if the inner/outer bearings for each are the same. If so, they would swap & be the correct pattern.

Of course, you would still have to redrill the rears though.....
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:53 AM   #7
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

Anyone have an idea on what it might cost to have the rotors redrilled? I just ordered a set of wheels in the 4.75 bolt pattern and am in need of some redrillin.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:36 PM   #8
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

Check Mosers website. Seems I remember it being about $80 ~ $100 for a pair of rotors.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:25 AM   #9
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

Moser website says $60 for a pair of front rotors. Really not a bad price, may have to look into this when I start looking for new wheels...
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What is there website url? I would like to check them out. I am in need asap. Thanks Josh
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I found the url. Here it is if anyone else needs it. http://www.moserengineering.com/Page...pservices.html
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

I was down at the machine shop and The machinist brought up an idea :
That why not plug the 5x5 holes and redrill 5x4.75 holes in the same area rather than milling the rear fins off. I dont mind having to mill the rear fins its just that the less work the less $$ involved. Another question the rear axle shafts when getting milled what do i need to mill the center of the axle to?
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.... Another question the rear axle shafts when getting milled what do i need to mill the center of the axle to?
Take your new wheels to the machinist & have him measure the hub. The difference is how much you'll need to machine off the axle hubs.
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:43 PM   #14
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

On the rotors, you might try an early chevy or gmc 1/2 ton van Some of them had a 4 3/4 bolt pattern. It's the bearings and bearing depth you'll have to check.
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I was down at the machine shop and The machinist brought up an idea :
That why not plug the 5x5 holes and redrill 5x4.75 holes in the same area rather than milling the rear fins off. I dont mind having to mill the rear fins its just that the less work the less $$ involved. Another question the rear axle shafts when getting milled what do i need to mill the center of the axle to?
Sounds like more work to me... welding up the holes and then re-driling them. Maybe it would be the same amount???? But I would rather mill off the fins.

2.750" should work just fine for a spec!
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

I bought a running gear recently,switched everything over to my truck about two months ago and am getting ready to get wheels when I read this thread it got me curious about my bolt pattern,so I went out this morning and measured my bolt pattern,from center bolt to center bolt is 4 and 3/4.I have a 69 camaro and I have tried to bolt those wheels up but I could'nt get them to fit.am I measuring eveything right?
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

The bolt pattern is measured as the diameter of a circle that would pass through the center of all the studs. If you measured from one stud diagonal to the one across, on a five lug, it would not be the actual measurement of the diameter... but smaller. If you have a five lug and it measures 4.75" from stud center to stud center on the diagonal, it would take a 5" diameter circle to touch the center of all 5 studs... your bolt pattern is 5 on 5".
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There is another option. I'm running 4.75" wheels on my 5x5 gear. The pic says it all... But I did pay $180 for 4 adapters. Why? because the wheels were basically free...
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

Uncle is right the mid 70's G10 van has some parts than will bolt in (on the front, not sure of the rear) Someone on here had done this but the post was a LONG time ago. I'll see if I can find it.

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Frizzle, where did you get those? How much space do they take up? Details details my friend.
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yeah, ive got a smoken deal on some car 4.75" slot mags that i would love to run if i had 4.75" pattern
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I got them from this guy http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZgotdubs20 You can email or call him to make any specs you want. I think there is a minimum thickness of 0.75" or 1". Mine are 1.25". He does very good work and stands behind his products. I've been running these for a couple years now with no issues.
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I got them from this guy http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZgotdubs20 You can email or call him to make any specs you want. I think there is a minimum thickness of 0.75" or 1". Mine are 1.25". He does very good work and stands behind his products. I've been running these for a couple years now with no issues.
For practical purposes...... 1" thick is the minimum.

Good luck finding a shallow enough lug nug to fit within the <1" spacer. Yes, they make 'custom' shallow lug nuts but even they aren't enough on some wheels (ask me how I know ).
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For practical purposes...... 1" thick is the minimum.

Good luck finding a shallow enough lug nug to fit within the <1" spacer. Yes, they make 'custom' shallow lug nuts but even they aren't enough on some wheels (ask me how I know ).

Well gosh I just have to ask then "How do you know SCOTI"
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Re: 5x5 to 5x4.75 bolt pattern?

They offer a 7/8" adapter as the narrowest available so thats what I got.

But..... there was no mention that shallow lug nuts would be required if the wheels being used did not have 'reliefs' on the mounting surface. TT2's do not have the reliefs & the search was on for the shallow lugs. After receiving in the more expensive shallow lugs, they weren't shallow enough & the wheels still would not sit flush on the adapter.

The solution was an 1/8" spacer between the adapter & the wheels mounting flange which is why 1" should be the minimum cause I still had to buzz the ends of the lugs/studs w/the grinder to keep things from contacting each other. Frustrating experience......
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