paint shop paint

[tmose2]

what about the Paint shop series from duplicolor? Can you get a decent job from normal home shop equipment? I have a harbor freight HVLP gun and a typical air compressor but do you need a 80 gallon tank compressor to make it work?

[78chev]

HVLP uses a turbine pump, not a compressor. if the gun has a typical connector for an air compressor hose then it's a conventional gun, not a HVLP.
If it has a large (about an inch) threaded connector then it's a HVLP.

[Restrorob]

Something just didn't sound right so I posted this thread in the body shop section and below is the reply I got;

Originally Posted by Restrorob

Can any of you paint/body-shop Gurus elaborate on this please ?

The second quote just doesn't sound right since I see HVLP guns advertised all over the place for 3/8" air hose. I was going to purchase one (NOT from H. F.) when I get ready to paint my truck instead of using my conventional gun.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Mike 85

HVLP is a relative term.
High Volume Low Pressure. However you achieve it is of no consiquense.
HVLP Turbine systems are "self contained" units which provide their own air supply and IMO are not designed for automotive type painting.House paint would be their perticular field of expertise.
HVLP sprayguns as "we" know them,are designed for automotive or refinish work and require a air supply from a compressor of sufficent CFM & PSI for them to function properly.
They are totaly different and each has it's proper use.
How many turbine units have you seen in a paint & body shop?
Most sprayguns are HVLP in those now which run off compressed air.

So in essence tmose2, I doubt you will get a HVLP gun to function properly with a small 20/30 gal. compressor. I did some checking around before purchasing my 120gal. because I had planned on making the HVLP gun purchase.

[69BBsuburban]

Originally Posted by 78chev

HVLP uses a turbine pump, not a compressor. if the gun has a typical connector for an air compressor hose then it's a conventional gun, not a HVLP.
If it has a large (about an inch) threaded connector then it's a HVLP.

HUH????
HVLP guns can run off a reg compressor.....but it's got to put out enough CFM to keep up.....
My 60 gal compressor keeps up with my Binks Mach 1 (w/2 gal pressure pot), but runs constantly if shooting an entire car.....
Not all HVLPs are created equal either.....I have a Cornwell HVLP quart gun that I've done some graphics work with, but it doesn't atomize as well as the Binks.....I plan on getting a SATA.....

[Slonaker]

Originally Posted by tmose2

what about the Paint shop series from duplicolor? Can you get a decent job from normal home shop equipment? I have a harbor freight HVLP gun and a typical air compressor but do you need a 80 gallon tank compressor to make it work?

I heard it was laquer. The stuff I looked at in my local auto parts store was.

Laquer is supposedly pretty easy to work with because you can sand and buff out your mistakes. You can get a fantastic shine out of it with some work, but it isn't very durable. It chips easily.

A friend of mine is doing his '32 Ford roadster in the duplicolor laquer from a spray can, believe it or not. The stuff I have seen so far that he has buffed out looks great.

Slonaker (not a painter...)

[Goodie]

I know the paint shop primer works good.... I haven't tried the paint yet... stay tunned but best thing about the paint is that you can paint your ride for fractions cheaper that the other stuff but you must understand that you get what you pay for... but I think is fine with some buffing...

[Blackstone]

ESPN interviewed the Dupli-Color guy at the last SEMA show. The only advantage discussed with the Paint Shop series was that it didn't require the use of reducers or thinners.... making it less expensive and less complex for the DIYer. The same equipment is needed as with traditional automotive painting. The color choices are limited to 8 if I remember correctly.

[68GMC454]

i use dupli color rattle cans to spray my models...buffs out well, looks good when done..but i just paint my windsheild wiper arms on my or brand of truck,,turned out great, but it did chip when i put a screw driver close to it,,needes to be clear coated...

[Goodie]

yeah you have to use the same equipment... and yes the color is limited... I will be using the brilliant Silver or Mineral gray...

[C&C Chevy]

Yeah, just about any compressor running atleast 15 cfm at 90 will handle most HVLP guns.

[tmose2]

Actually I first heard of paint shop system on the show "Trucks" where the guys did a freaky paint sceme on a full size bronco, named DasBronco,. Since then I found out that O'reily's carries the paint.I was thinking about using the red on a orginal red 85. Will the paint orange peel, or not stick to the orginal paint? What kind of paint did the factory used? I really don't want to totaly strip the factory paint completely off if it can be avioded. Now the harbor Freight HVLP gun, I know it is chinese, but has anybody made this thing work?I have a devilblis high pressure gun, but it paints everything in the shop and bleeds the tank dry real quick! The purpose of the HVLP was to use less paint, and less air.. Anyway, thanks for the help, Tom

[Slonaker]

Originally Posted by tmose2

Now the harbor Freight HVLP gun, I know it is chinese, but has anybody made this thing work?

I have heard good things about part # 43430.

http://www.purplesagetradingpost.com...Pspraygun.html Google it, and you'll find more info.

Slonaker

[69BBsuburban]

The purpose of the HVLP was to use less paint, and less air..

That's 1/2 correct....
HVLPs actually use MORE volumn of air from your compressor......