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Tom · 11-03-2002, 11:50 PM

Ive had this problem with my truck for some time now. Its really apparent when cold, but hardly there once warm [but deffenatly still there] When first touching the gas pedal to start, I mean just barely out of the idle circut and into the primary circut, it bogs for a second. This is only when giving slight gas. If I stomp on it, theres no problem [except all the tire smoke

]

Timing is set, no vaccum leaks. Im thinking it could be one of a few things. ONE: accelerator pump shot is either too big or too small. TWO: Idle circut is not the right mixture THREE: timing needs to be changed. Its at 8 degrees BTDC right now, its runs best there. What are your guys's opinions? This is on my 79 BTW, vortec 350, RPM intake, 600cfm carter carb, HEI with MSD coil.

**swervin ervin** · 11-04-2002, 12:27 AM

Dump the Carter and get a Q-jet and I can help.

Oh, I forgot, you don't like good carbs.

79BIG10 · 11-04-2002, 01:53 AM

What notch is the pump rod on? Might try changing that up or down to see if it helps any before changing out the pump.

67_SS396 · 11-04-2002, 12:32 PM

I'm having the same issue and have for quite sometime. I wish I could help. Once I figure it out, I'll pass on the info.

LOHRTBT · 11-04-2002, 01:32 PM

LOL!! Join the club man....I get control of it and then the temp changes and so do my adjustments. lol

Tom · 11-04-2002, 02:03 PM

LOL, you guys are a bunch of help! Dave, I hear ya on the temp thing. One week were in 110 degree weather, then BAM! 70's all day long with 50 degree nights. All in the course of about 4 days. The truck sure does run better with the cool air though.

LOHRTBT · 11-04-2002, 02:05 PM

yep, I know Tom...its a mess haha. We have had the same thing here lately. ... 30's one week, 70's the next...lol

PHOENIX · 11-04-2002, 03:12 PM

Sorry Tom dont know what to tell ya.

That temp change made me sick

I still cant decide what to do. At night I need the AC on, but in the morning I wish the heat would kick on (in the house).

I found this to be weird. I have (2) 12's behind my seat in seperate boxes. Well when I went from the Kenwoods to the MTX (for warranty reasons). I had to buy these little cups that make the box a little bigger (you cut a hole in the wood and install this thin steel cup). Well one of the cups vibrates like crazy (sounds very very bad) in the morning, but not in the afternoon. Isnt that weird? I wonder if its the temperture throughout the day. Ohh well I need to fix it either way.

Tom · 11-04-2002, 05:19 PM

Ed, that is wierd. I say wrap the metal things in rubber to stop the vibratiing. Hopfully that will work. You get sick from the weather changes? I had been sick TWICE in my entire life [15 years] until I moved here, now once a year when the temp changes so quickly I get a cough that wont go away for at least a month. And my allergys get bad now too

Except for the rust free trucks and cars, I HATE az.

PHOENIX · 11-04-2002, 05:28 PM

Thats funny I thought you'd be happier here cause we are closer to Mexico

Tom · 11-04-2002, 06:54 PM

All mexico is really good for is alcohol and prescription pills. niether of which I do. The "other" stuff [

] dosent count cause none of it is making it into the US anymore. Plus this heat, I just cant take it. I need snow!!

1974ChevyC10 · 11-04-2002, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
You get sick from the weather changes? I had been sick TWICE in my entire life [15 years] until I moved here, now once a year when the temp changes so quickly I get a cough that wont go away for at least a month. And my allergys get bad now too
Except for the rust free trucks and cars, I HATE az.

tom i know how you feel i very seldom got sick while living in arizona and my allergies hardly ever acted up there but in the year ive lived in nevada ive been sick 2 times and my allergies are always acting up.i dont hate nevada so much just the weather and some of the people here suck.

bigd65 · 11-05-2002, 09:48 AM

Tom , move your accelerator pump rod to the top hole to give it more of a fuel shot on take off, i would bet that is where it is.

I cant believe yall are complaining about ARIZONA. when i went on vacation this summer, most of it was spent in ARIZONA. i loved it there. even better than NEW MEXICO. the weather was dry, NO HUMIDITY. and the state was just fantastic.

BTW, weather dont affect my truck it always runs the same.

1974ChevyC10 · 11-06-2002, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by bigd65
.I cant believe yall are complaining about ARIZONA. when i went on vacation this summer, most of it was spent in ARIZONA. i loved it there. even better than NEW MEXICO. the weather was dry, NO HUMIDITY. and the state was just fantastic.

aside from a few things i like arizona besides its home im from there and i was raised there.i live in nevada now but im starting to get sick and tired of las vegas for some reason.i like the town itself but there people from here are really getting on my last good nerve

PHOENIX · 11-06-2002, 12:04 PM

I like Arizona also, but I never lived anywhere else. If I ever did move I would probly move somewhere where I could have more land with nice green grass and trees. I would want my closest neighbor to be about a block away. That would be pretty cool.

Thats funny: I would rather push a Chevy then drive a Ford

LOHRTBT · 11-06-2002, 12:18 PM

I need to move to AZ....my allergies kill me!!

PHOENIX · 11-06-2002, 12:25 PM

Do it!

There are plenty of houses popping up here all the time. The city is growing so fast.

LOHRTBT · 11-06-2002, 12:33 PM

I wish. In all reality, I may be moving to Colorado Springs in the somewhat near future.

Tom · 11-06-2002, 10:49 PM

Dave, you wanna move here. Im a loan oficer, I could get you a killer rate on your new house!

But seriously, my allergys out here are worse then in upstate NY where I grew up.

PHOENIX · 11-07-2002, 02:45 PM

Tom I may need to get a first time home buyers loan from you. I currently rent my moms house from here, but she wants to sell it sometime soon

Anyway she has changed her mind many a time so Im not sure whats going on. First she told me pay X$ and you can stay till Jan. Then she said you can stay as long as you want if the house doesnt cost me anything (I would be living in her house and paying it off for her). Not a bad deal for either of us. Its a 4 bedroom, 2 bath, and its only like $600 for morgage. It even has a pool, but needs a resurface big time!

Anyway when I decide to buy a house of my own, or with my lady. I will check you out. You better hook it up too!

chevychic · 11-07-2002, 03:19 PM

You guys just all need to move to Oregon.

There're no hurricanes, no earthquakes...only the occasional fire. Not much in the way of crime here. We have beautiful trees, lakes, rivers and it's so green! The rain isn't as bad as you think and if you're in the right place (like where I live) there's no snow except on the mountains and once in a while on the valley floor but it only stays till noon most of the time. If you want snow, it's only an hour (or less) drive to play and then leave when you're done with it. The vehicles don't get badly rusted that I've seen.
I get allergies in spring for a month or two but as long as I'm taking my vitamins, then they aren't too bad.

My only complaint about this place is the area I'm in doesn't have a whole lot of major corporations, so employers aren't competing for their employees so the wages aren't as good as you could get else where. But things are starting to change and if you're in the right field, you can do really well here.

Okay...so a little OT but I had to put a little plug for Oregon in here

Tom · 11-07-2002, 07:36 PM

O sure, leave the second fastest growing city in america [read: EXELLENT market for real estate and mortgage loans!] and move to OR only to have you leave us 5 months later and move somwhere like florida. I see how it is heather.

chevychic · 11-07-2002, 08:39 PM

Naw.
I wanted to move over the summer...REAL bad. But then there were other circumstances going on that kinda fed that feeling.
But I've decided to stay here for awhile. Got a good thing going with school here...can't complain...it's FREE!

And the type of work I do allows me to live anywhere I want to so the job market here doesn't affect me too much.

11-03-2002, 11:50 PM	#1
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	tip in bog problem Ive had this problem with my truck for some time now. Its really apparent when cold, but hardly there once warm [but deffenatly still there] When first touching the gas pedal to start, I mean just barely out of the idle circut and into the primary circut, it bogs for a second. This is only when giving slight gas. If I stomp on it, theres no problem [except all the tire smoke ] Timing is set, no vaccum leaks. Im thinking it could be one of a few things. ONE: accelerator pump shot is either too big or too small. TWO: Idle circut is not the right mixture THREE: timing needs to be changed. Its at 8 degrees BTDC right now, its runs best there. What are your guys's opinions? This is on my 79 BTW, vortec 350, RPM intake, 600cfm carter carb, HEI with MSD coil. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-04-2002, 12:27 AM	#2
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Dump the Carter and get a Q-jet and I can help. Oh, I forgot, you don't like good carbs. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

11-04-2002, 01:53 AM	#3
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	What notch is the pump rod on? Might try changing that up or down to see if it helps any before changing out the pump. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

11-04-2002, 12:32 PM	#4
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Same problem I'm having the same issue and have for quite sometime. I wish I could help. Once I figure it out, I'll pass on the info. __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this."

11-04-2002, 01:32 PM	#5
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	LOL!! Join the club man....I get control of it and then the temp changes and so do my adjustments. lol __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

11-04-2002, 02:03 PM	#6
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	LOL, you guys are a bunch of help! Dave, I hear ya on the temp thing. One week were in 110 degree weather, then BAM! 70's all day long with 50 degree nights. All in the course of about 4 days. The truck sure does run better with the cool air though. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-04-2002, 02:05 PM	#7
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	yep, I know Tom...its a mess haha. We have had the same thing here lately. ... 30's one week, 70's the next...lol __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

11-04-2002, 03:12 PM	#8
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Sorry Tom dont know what to tell ya. That temp change made me sick I still cant decide what to do. At night I need the AC on, but in the morning I wish the heat would kick on (in the house). I found this to be weird. I have (2) 12's behind my seat in seperate boxes. Well when I went from the Kenwoods to the MTX (for warranty reasons). I had to buy these little cups that make the box a little bigger (you cut a hole in the wood and install this thin steel cup). Well one of the cups vibrates like crazy (sounds very very bad) in the morning, but not in the afternoon. Isnt that weird? I wonder if its the temperture throughout the day. Ohh well I need to fix it either way. __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

11-04-2002, 05:19 PM	#9
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	Ed, that is wierd. I say wrap the metal things in rubber to stop the vibratiing. Hopfully that will work. You get sick from the weather changes? I had been sick TWICE in my entire life [15 years] until I moved here, now once a year when the temp changes so quickly I get a cough that wont go away for at least a month. And my allergys get bad now too Except for the rust free trucks and cars, I HATE az. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-04-2002, 05:28 PM	#10
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Thats funny I thought you'd be happier here cause we are closer to Mexico __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

11-04-2002, 06:54 PM	#11
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	All mexico is really good for is alcohol and prescription pills. niether of which I do. The "other" stuff [] dosent count cause none of it is making it into the US anymore. Plus this heat, I just cant take it. I need snow!! __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-05-2002, 09:48 AM	#13
bigd65 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Clute, TX. Posts: 1,935	Tom , move your accelerator pump rod to the top hole to give it more of a fuel shot on take off, i would bet that is where it is. I cant believe yall are complaining about ARIZONA. when i went on vacation this summer, most of it was spent in ARIZONA. i loved it there. even better than NEW MEXICO. the weather was dry, NO HUMIDITY. and the state was just fantastic. BTW, weather dont affect my truck it always runs the same. __________________ 2004 Silverado Crewcab 1972 Chevy Monte Carlo 2017 Chevy Tahoe

11-06-2002, 12:04 PM	#15
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	I like Arizona also, but I never lived anywhere else. If I ever did move I would probly move somewhere where I could have more land with nice green grass and trees. I would want my closest neighbor to be about a block away. That would be pretty cool. Thats funny: I would rather push a Chevy then drive a Ford __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

11-06-2002, 12:18 PM	#16
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I need to move to AZ....my allergies kill me!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

11-06-2002, 12:25 PM	#17
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Do it! There are plenty of houses popping up here all the time. The city is growing so fast. __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *



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11-06-2002, 12:33 PM	#18
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I wish. In all reality, I may be moving to Colorado Springs in the somewhat near future. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

11-06-2002, 10:49 PM	#19
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	Dave, you wanna move here. Im a loan oficer, I could get you a killer rate on your new house! But seriously, my allergys out here are worse then in upstate NY where I grew up. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-07-2002, 02:45 PM	#20
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Tom I may need to get a first time home buyers loan from you. I currently rent my moms house from here, but she wants to sell it sometime soon Anyway she has changed her mind many a time so Im not sure whats going on. First she told me pay X$ and you can stay till Jan. Then she said you can stay as long as you want if the house doesnt cost me anything (I would be living in her house and paying it off for her). Not a bad deal for either of us. Its a 4 bedroom, 2 bath, and its only like $600 for morgage. It even has a pool, but needs a resurface big time! Anyway when I decide to buy a house of my own, or with my lady. I will check you out. You better hook it up too! __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

11-07-2002, 03:19 PM	#21
chevychic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 1,061	You guys just all need to move to Oregon. There're no hurricanes, no earthquakes...only the occasional fire. Not much in the way of crime here. We have beautiful trees, lakes, rivers and it's so green! The rain isn't as bad as you think and if you're in the right place (like where I live) there's no snow except on the mountains and once in a while on the valley floor but it only stays till noon most of the time. If you want snow, it's only an hour (or less) drive to play and then leave when you're done with it. The vehicles don't get badly rusted that I've seen. I get allergies in spring for a month or two but as long as I'm taking my vitamins, then they aren't too bad. My only complaint about this place is the area I'm in doesn't have a whole lot of major corporations, so employers aren't competing for their employees so the wages aren't as good as you could get else where. But things are starting to change and if you're in the right field, you can do really well here. Okay...so a little OT but I had to put a little plug for Oregon in here __________________ *ChevyChic* 86 Chevy K-10 If I can't be a good example, then I'll just have to be a horrible warning. "You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think" - Christopher Robin

11-07-2002, 07:36 PM	#22
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	O sure, leave the second fastest growing city in america [read: EXELLENT market for real estate and mortgage loans!] and move to OR only to have you leave us 5 months later and move somwhere like florida. I see how it is heather. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-07-2002, 08:39 PM	#23
chevychic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 1,061	Naw. I wanted to move over the summer...REAL bad. But then there were other circumstances going on that kinda fed that feeling. But I've decided to stay here for awhile. Got a good thing going with school here...can't complain...it's FREE! And the type of work I do allows me to live anywhere I want to so the job market here doesn't affect me too much.

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