Project: 1970 4x4 underway...

[Sir Fisher]

here are some photos of the truck before everything got underway...

[Sir Fisher]

more pics...

[Sir Fisher]

the project started last oct or so and i've been taking thing out and apart... just been too lazy to post pics. now, here's some pics the body work that's been done to date... the driver side is done, put in the a/c deletes and moved the gas fill to the back. starting on the passenger side next week and doing some more work in the engine bay.

[Sir Fisher]

in the future, i will be installing a LQ4 mated with a 4L60E and NP241. changing the closed nuckle 8 lug front and rear ends with 6 lug axles w/disk brakes all the way around from a 1972 blazer, 3.73 gears. gas tank from fuelcell guy... more info and pics to come later.

thanks to all the other build threads that i've been getting great ideas from!!

[Fubar]

I love seeing these 4x4 build threads, especialy with cool drivetrain upgrades. Are you using a driver's side front axle or switching out the t-case? keep the updates coming!

[Sir Fisher]

i'm using a passenger side front axle and a np241... when i bought it, i remember i made sure everything fits... but now that you ask... i'm second guessing myself... my axles are at my buddy's place getting rebuilt... just new bearings and seals.

[115-K10]

Originally Posted by Sir Fisher

in the future, i will be installing a LQ4 mated with a 4L60E and NP241. changing the closed nuckle 8 lug front and rear ends with 6 lug axles w/disk brakes all the way around from a 1972 blazer, 3.73 gears. gas tank from fuelcell guy... more info and pics to come later.

thanks to all the other build threads that i've been getting great ideas from!!

I was actually thinking about using a modern 4x4 engine tranny and transfer case too. However, the transfer case on the newer trucks have drive shafts on the driver side. I was thinking that the front axel would have to be modified to move the pumpkin. What do you plan to do?

[Sir Fisher]

Originally Posted by 115-K10

I was actually thinking about using a modern 4x4 engine tranny and transfer case too. However, the transfer case on the newer trucks have drive shafts on the driver side. I was thinking that the front axel would have to be modified to move the pumpkin. What do you plan to do?

drtwhls is going with a np205 and i'm going with a np241... was going to go with the np208, but don't remember why i chose the 241 instead. both of these are passenger side drop t-cases. there are probably others out there with a passenger side drop that you can choose from. on the 205 i think you'll need an adaptor plate to connect it to a 4l60e or 4l80e... but the 241 can bolt right up. you'll need to do some homework if you wanna see how others will bolt on. then you won't have to do anything to the front axle. or i suppose you can find a front axle with a driver side drop instead of a t-case.

[drtwhls]

Originally Posted by 115-K10

I was actually thinking about using a modern 4x4 engine tranny and transfer case too. However, the transfer case on the newer trucks have drive shafts on the driver side. I was thinking that the front axel would have to be modified to move the pumpkin. What do you plan to do?

115-K10
When I started I had the same question. I wanted to maintain the 3/4 ton drivetrain which is why I was dead set on the 205. The 205 passenger side drop is extremely rare. I rsearched and purchased a 3-1 conversion kit for my 205 from JP conversions and it let me retain the 205 passenger drop. The JB conversions kit comes with a new case that will bolt up to the stock adapter same as the 241 would bolt to or to the old style figure 8. My front end is open knuckle and didn't want to mess with changing axles. The 4L80E combo is only 2.25" longer than the stock SM465 and NP205. The largest obstacle to getting my LQ4 in was the motor mounting, the 2wd guys can get bolt in mounts, but us 4wd guys don't have the same type of crossmember set up to be able to od the same.

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by Sir Fisher

the project started last oct or so and i've been taking thing out and apart... just been too lazy to post pics. now, here's some pics the body work that's been done to date... the driver side is done, put in the a/c deletes and moved the gas fill to the back. starting on the passenger side next week and doing some more work in the engine bay.

If you can remember back Sir Fisher can you tell me how far back you trimmed the metal on the gas door before you cut the hole in the bed side? I have an S-10 door, trying to decide should i cut a round hole in the bed about 1/4" larger than the door base or because its easier to maybe just cut a square hole?

Also been trying to decide if i butt weld or buy a flanging tool and bond it into place..

[Sir Fisher]

Sorry I don't remember how far back we put it; I would go measure it but the bed is a few hours from my house now; I have no storage and need my garage space

Originally Posted by swamp rat

If you can remember back Sir Fisher can you tell me how far back you trimmed the metal on the gas door before you cut the hole in the bed side? I have an S-10 door, trying to decide should i cut a round hole in the bed about 1/4" larger than the door base or because its easier to maybe just cut a square hole?

Also been trying to decide if i butt weld or buy a flanging tool and bond it into place..

[95chevymutt]

just wondering why your changing the 8 lug or to 6

[Sir Fisher]

i wanted to go with the open knuckles, the closed knuckles had horrible turning radius... i also had a good deal on my 6 lug axles, and the rims that i want were also 6 lug rims. i know it's heavier duty, but i'm not doing anything that'll require the heavy duty needs.

[TheWhiteElephant]

Originally Posted by Sir Fisher

i wanted to go with the open knuckles, the closed knuckles had horrible turning radius... i also had a good deal on my 6 lug axles, and the rims that i want were also 6 lug rims. i know it's heavier duty, but i'm not doing anything that'll require the heavy duty needs.

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[TwoFiftyShifter]

I liked that truck before the tear down!

[Sir Fisher]

just got the axles back from my buddy's place today... new bearings, seals, u-joints, brakes (4 wheel disks) and fresh paint.

[Travis K]

Any updates? I have the same engine/tranny/t-case combo coming this week. How are you planning on running the passenger side front end, when the t-case output is on the driver's side? Keep us posted on the engine swap.

[Sir Fisher]

Originally Posted by Travis K

Any updates? I have the same engine/tranny/t-case combo coming this week. How are you planning on running the passenger side front end, when the t-case output is on the driver's side? Keep us posted on the engine swap.

the transfer case you see in the pic with the motor is a Borg-Warner 4484, i'm not going to be using it. i have a np241 that i'm putting in and it has a passenger side drop.

i'm finishing up on the passenger side body right now. i'll take some new pics soon.

[Eturnit3]

Sweet truck, cant wait to see the pics of the tank installed, I wanna do the same thing.

[drtwhls]

*bump*

I'm working on a 3/4 ton 4x4 similar gameplan (6.0l, 4L80E, NP205)... I went with a JB conversions 3-1 205 case to bolt up to the adapter on the 4l80e to retain the passenger drop and use the stock axles (44 front and eaton rear, disks all around). Curious to see where you are headed.

[dammitmitchell]

hey dud am i the only one hrer to notice that your porportioning vaulve is in a weird spot?
just my 2 cents..

[Sir Fisher]

closed off the manual shifter hole and sealed off the air vent. almost done with the passenger side vent; will update with more pics soon.

[Sir Fisher]

progress has been slowed due to the snow storms up north... i don't know what the snow storms have to do with me down here in florida, but it's a good excuse... last months update, took the bed off to clean up behind the cab, here are some pics; going to paint the cab soon; hope i'll stick to my goals this time.

[dammitmitchell]

lookin good!

[msgross]

nice project, nice work so far too...