Question about cats and arizona. - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

minitrucker · 06-08-2009, 03:25 AM

Ahoy. So I bought a 75 4x4 with a 350 and true dual exhaust. I dont know about these trucks yet so my question is, should there be converters on my truck in order to pass emissions? My dad had a 73 suburban with a 350 but I cant remember seeing cats under the truck.

Any help would be great, I need to register this bucket.

pokethesmot · 06-08-2009, 03:32 AM

it dosent need em i dont think

minitrucker · 06-08-2009, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokethesmot

it dosent need em i dont think

Any particular reason why? Is it just the nature of the truck or just because its 30 some years old?

79gmcc15 · 06-08-2009, 03:53 AM

http://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/smog-check.php

2) Vehicles Exempt from Testing

Please note that some exemptions apply:

* Automobiles that are less than five years old do not need to be tested.

* Alternative fuel automobiles whose model years fall after 2003 do not need to be tested.

* Automobiles that were made before 1967 do not need to be tested.

* Vehicles that are apportioned, or licensed in more than one state, do not need to be tested.

* Vehicles powered by electricity, golf carts, and those that do not displace more than 90ccs do not need to be tested.

* Leased vehicles that commute into the designated areas do not need to be tested.

* Wholesale dealer vehicles do not need to be tested.

Furthermore, if you live in one of the designated areas but do not use your vehicle to commute within it, or if you live in part of a zip-code that you know is exempt from the Car Care program, you can apply for a Code 52 exemption. When you do so, include a copy of the vehicle's registration as well as a copy of a current utility bill or property owner's tax evaluation notice to verify your residence township, range, and section. You can call (602) 207-7001 in Phoenix or (520) 628-5651 in Tucson for more information.

it looks like you Do need them. but typically, any car/truck that is over 20 years old doesn't do smog tests. so, you will need all the smog stuff to make you current to pass the tests.

minitrucker · 06-08-2009, 04:34 AM

Well thank you for the info. Looks like I will be registering my truck in payson using a friends address.

Prong · 06-08-2009, 05:08 AM

During that stretch of time, some trucks did, and some didn't. It was mostly based on weight. Over a certain weight was considered heavy duty and they didn't come with them. Is the emission label still legible on the shroud support near the radiator? If so, that should tell you what you need.

72 CustomCamper · 06-08-2009, 09:20 AM

The quick way to tell if it came with cats or not is to look at the fuel filler neck. If it's wide open no cats it was a leaded fuel truck. If it has the little flapper or a smaller opening it had cats it was a unleaded fuel truck...

Chuck

grinch4om · 06-08-2009, 10:03 AM

the new cats are around $100 bucks and are extremely eficient...put em on

bobjob · 06-08-2009, 10:36 AM

if you are going to licenses your truck in a NO SMOG area..BE CAREFUL... I live in pinal county,,1/2 is smog-1/2 not...
and i got pulled over when i was working in mesa for a non- smogged vehicle and working in a smog zone???HOW???simple
turns out that it if you work in a area that smogs and commute from a non smog area,, need emissions...HOW DO THEY KNOW???
simple...if your year tags are brown w/ white letters,,non-smog are white w/ brown letters..
if your truck is titled in a different area,,and your drivers license says you're living in phoenix,,it's illegal and they can impound your truck and take your plates..you wont get new plates till you comply..
I had some friends happen to them..
i got lucky because my license proved that i live in non-smog area..
call your friend first and ask him color of tags w/ letters..check them with your dads tags..make sure exp. is same..
gov. don't like to be screwd out of there cash!!!

**78 Big10 454** · 06-09-2009, 01:24 AM

Mini, my 78 C-10 had factory cat, yet my cousin's 77 C-10 didn't. I believe 78 was the first year of cats on a half-ton truck.

75sierraclassic · 06-09-2009, 08:31 AM

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that they started putting cats on trucks in 75. If the truck had a GVW under 6001 lbs it was fitted with cats, if it was over (heavy duty trucks) it didn't have cats. I was looking into it because my 75 GMC Sierra Classic never had cats on it (but I didn't own it until 1999). I have the F44 Heavy Duty Chassis option which puts my truck at 6200 GVW so I am pretty sure it never had cats on it.

Prong · 06-09-2009, 05:51 PM

I do believe your right.

06-08-2009, 03:25 AM	#1
minitrucker Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 15	Question about cats and arizona. Ahoy. So I bought a 75 4x4 with a 350 and true dual exhaust. I dont know about these trucks yet so my question is, should there be converters on my truck in order to pass emissions? My dad had a 73 suburban with a 350 but I cant remember seeing cats under the truck. Any help would be great, I need to register this bucket. __________________ http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/pts/1205614938.html Lock right lockers for sale

06-08-2009, 03:32 AM	#2
pokethesmot profeshinaly unimployed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hazlehurst, GA Posts: 1,232	Re: Question about cats and arizona. it dosent need em i dont think __________________ my ride click here my myspace "having mud flaps is like asking for a smaller trophy"

06-08-2009, 03:53 AM	#4
79gmcc15 Gettin It One Pice At A Time Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: everett, washington Posts: 2,688	Re: Question about cats and arizona. http://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/smog-check.php 2) Vehicles Exempt from Testing Please note that some exemptions apply: * Automobiles that are less than five years old do not need to be tested. * Alternative fuel automobiles whose model years fall after 2003 do not need to be tested. * Automobiles that were made before 1967 do not need to be tested. * Vehicles that are apportioned, or licensed in more than one state, do not need to be tested. * Vehicles powered by electricity, golf carts, and those that do not displace more than 90ccs do not need to be tested. * Leased vehicles that commute into the designated areas do not need to be tested. * Wholesale dealer vehicles do not need to be tested. Furthermore, if you live in one of the designated areas but do not use your vehicle to commute within it, or if you live in part of a zip-code that you know is exempt from the Car Care program, you can apply for a Code 52 exemption. When you do so, include a copy of the vehicle's registration as well as a copy of a current utility bill or property owner's tax evaluation notice to verify your residence township, range, and section. You can call (602) 207-7001 in Phoenix or (520) 628-5651 in Tucson for more information. it looks like you Do need them. but typically, any car/truck that is over 20 years old doesn't do smog tests. so, you will need all the smog stuff to make you current to pass the tests. __________________ RIP ELJAY Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby Last edited by 79gmcc15; 06-08-2009 at 03:56 AM.

06-08-2009, 04:34 AM	#5
minitrucker Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 15	Re: Question about cats and arizona. Well thank you for the info. Looks like I will be registering my truck in payson using a friends address. __________________ http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/pts/1205614938.html Lock right lockers for sale

06-08-2009, 05:08 AM	#6
Prong Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: CO Posts: 475	Re: Question about cats and arizona. During that stretch of time, some trucks did, and some didn't. It was mostly based on weight. Over a certain weight was considered heavy duty and they didn't come with them. Is the emission label still legible on the shroud support near the radiator? If so, that should tell you what you need.

06-08-2009, 09:20 AM	#7
72 CustomCamper huh ??? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fredericksburg,Va. Posts: 3,368	Re: Question about cats and arizona. The quick way to tell if it came with cats or not is to look at the fuel filler neck. If it's wide open no cats it was a leaded fuel truck. If it has the little flapper or a smaller opening it had cats it was a unleaded fuel truck... Chuck __________________ 90 Blazer Silverado 350w/ 700R4 and 32" Kelly's "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running try to keep up!" Last edited by 72 CustomCamper; 06-08-2009 at 09:20 AM.

06-08-2009, 10:03 AM	#8
grinch4om dang its hot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: frankfort kentucky Posts: 1,349	Re: Question about cats and arizona. the new cats are around $100 bucks and are extremely eficient...put em on

06-08-2009, 10:36 AM	#9
bobjob Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: florence arizona Posts: 53	Re: Question about cats and arizona. if you are going to licenses your truck in a NO SMOG area..BE CAREFUL... I live in pinal county,,1/2 is smog-1/2 not... and i got pulled over when i was working in mesa for a non- smogged vehicle and working in a smog zone???HOW???simple turns out that it if you work in a area that smogs and commute from a non smog area,, need emissions...HOW DO THEY KNOW??? simple...if your year tags are brown w/ white letters,,non-smog are white w/ brown letters.. if your truck is titled in a different area,,and your drivers license says you're living in phoenix,,it's illegal and they can impound your truck and take your plates..you wont get new plates till you comply.. I had some friends happen to them.. i got lucky because my license proved that i live in non-smog area.. call your friend first and ask him color of tags w/ letters..check them with your dads tags..make sure exp. is same.. gov. don't like to be screwd out of there cash!!!

06-09-2009, 01:24 AM	#10
78 Big10 454 78 Big10 454 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pismo Beach, CA Posts: 839	Re: Question about cats and arizona. Mini, my 78 C-10 had factory cat, yet my cousin's 77 C-10 didn't. I believe 78 was the first year of cats on a half-ton truck.

06-09-2009, 08:31 AM	#11
75sierraclassic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 186	Re: Question about cats and arizona. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that they started putting cats on trucks in 75. If the truck had a GVW under 6001 lbs it was fitted with cats, if it was over (heavy duty trucks) it didn't have cats. I was looking into it because my 75 GMC Sierra Classic never had cats on it (but I didn't own it until 1999). I have the F44 Heavy Duty Chassis option which puts my truck at 6200 GVW so I am pretty sure it never had cats on it.

06-09-2009, 05:51 PM	#12
Prong Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: CO Posts: 475	Re: Question about cats and arizona. I do believe your right.



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