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messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 12:17 PM

I have decided to go with the GM Performance parts 350 HO "Base" engine. After College I will try to put in a 383. I added everything up and new Engine, Exhaust, and interior is going to cost around $5000. I will try to get more info up later on all the things I plan on putting in it.

BigRed · 01-23-2003, 12:24 PM

Sounds like a good plan. I've been pondering what engine to put in mine and am leaning towards that 350 also.

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 12:40 PM

Its cheap and puts out some decent HP. After the warrenty goes out I'll probably change the cam and lifters to a roller setup if they are cheaper by then if not then I'll just put a bigger cam in it.

BigRed · 01-23-2003, 01:03 PM

That's my thoughts exactly. I just don't have the money and can't see spending it right now for a 383 buildup. I've actually thought about buying one of these rebuilt short blocks from a local shop ($550) and replacing cam, adding vortec heads and intake, and going from there. However, you never know what you're getting from these guys.

LOHRTBT · 01-23-2003, 01:16 PM

You will like it!

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
You will like it!

Isnt that the one you bought Dave? BTW does anyone know what the stock gear ratio is on our trucks?

LOHRTBT · 01-23-2003, 01:38 PM

I bought the uplevel from it that is sold as complete....no parts chasing needed lol
Depends on what truck but most were 2:73's unless ordered with 3:23 or 3:73
But IM sure I will be corrected on that!! lol

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 01:42 PM

I'm going with the base model so I can put an Edelbrock squarebore carb on it instead of the spreadbore. I'll have to get the rear end changed I don't like 2.73's. Is there anyway to find out what kind of rear end I have?

low 84 · 01-23-2003, 02:05 PM

you probly have a 3.08 rearend

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 03:18 PM

Here is the list

Engine

Engine
GM Per. Parts 350 HO "Base" engine: $2260 from Jegs (809-12486041)
Intake manifold
Edelbrock Performer Intake: $158 from Jegs (350-2116)
Carb.
Edelbrock 600 cfm squarebore: $245 from Jegs (350-1406)
Distributer
Flamethrower HEI Dist.: $219 from Jegs (751-D1000)
water pump
waterpump: $65 from Summit (SUM-311006)

Exhaust

Mufflers
Edelbrock performer muffler 3" inlet, dual 2.5" outlet: $127x2 from Summit (EDL-5507)
X-pipe
Hedman universal 3" x-pipe: $193 from Jegs (500-18830)
Cats.
Dynomax 3" cat. converter: $140x2 from Jegs (289-15147)
Exhaust Tips
Hooker 2.5" ID, 4" outlet: $36x4 from Jegs (520-22032)

Interior

Seats
Trailmax sport seats: $185x2 from Summit (BST-39347)
Trailmax seat adapters: $73x2 from JC Whitney (47UV0167B)
Floor Shifter
B&M Light Truck Mega Shifter: $166 from Jegs (130-80680)
Gauges
Mikes Gauge setup: $482 from Jegs
Radio
Radio Install: $90 @ best buy
Amp
Jenson 2-channel 720 watt amp: $140 from Summit (RME-JXP720)
Rear Speakers
Jenson 6"x9" 180 watt speakers: $47 from Summit (RME-XS1693)
Subs.
Jenson 12" 525 Watt Subs: $40x2 from Summit (RME-XS1212)
Front Speakers
Kick panel set with speakers: $170 from LMC (38-8508)

Total: $5509

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 09:20 PM

so what do you guys think of the list? Is there anything I left out or should change? The kick panels I'm not sure about its says in LMC they are for 73-79 but I'm sure I can get some for the same price or cheaper than LMC.

Big Paul · 01-23-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by messed up c-10
Hooker 2.5" ID, 4" outlet: $36x4 from Jegs (520-22032)

Your going to put FOUR 4" tips on it?

Maybe its just a typo, but save your self some money and just put 2. 4 will not look good.

Everything else looks good though.

Be carefull of s&*t that happens though, like maintanence or crap breaking.

Had a good list myself till my trans. went caput. Now I gotta fork over cash for that, but thats okay.

Now all thats left is work to fund that 5G budget.

ocbaud · 01-23-2003, 10:09 PM

i'm gonna try and get the zz4

its not that much more than the 350HO deluxe that dave has, and it has aluminum heads, and more torque

messed up c-10 · 01-23-2003, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Paul

Your going to put FOUR 4" tips on it?

Maybe its just a typo, but save your self some money and just put 2. 4 will not look good.

Everything else looks good though.

Be carefull of s&*t that happens though, like maintanence or crap breaking.

Had a good list myself till my trans. went caput. Now I gotta fork over cash for that, but thats okay.

Now all thats left is work to fund that 5G budget.

The mufflers I'm going to get are 1 inlet 2 outlet type like on 88-94? GM Trucks. I was going to put four double tips on it but decided not to. They also have some with an O.D. of 3.5" do you think they would look better with doubles since they are smaller?

ocbaud · 01-24-2003, 12:05 AM

your exhaust is WAY overkill unless you are gonna be at wot all the time.

oh, and get some better stereo stuff, everyone knows jensen stuff sucks!

messed up c-10 · 01-24-2003, 12:10 AM

edelbrock doesnt have a performer muffler that goes from 3" to 2.5" other than the dual outlet one. what is wot?

ocbaud · 01-24-2003, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by messed up c-10
edelbrock doesnt have a performer muffler that goes from 3" to 2.5" other than the dual outlet one. what is wot?

wide open throttle

and you dont need 2 dual out mufflers. 2 single outs would be fine. and the 4 exhaust tips would not look good at all to me.

messed up c-10 · 01-24-2003, 12:36 AM

Ok right now I'm reworking it. I might go with a 2.5" exhaust all the way through or with 3" until it gets through the cats. then go to 2.5" which if I do that I will be using two 2.5" inlet/outlet mufflers and will only have two tips.

ocbaud · 01-24-2003, 12:52 AM

either one of those sounds good to me

79BIG10 · 01-24-2003, 04:00 AM

I agree you need 2.5" pipe. Also I would call around the dealerships in the area for a price on the engine. They may have a sale going on and not cost in shipping. Also do a search on google for that GM part number and see what comes up. I bet Jim Pace and others can beat Jeg's.

Look here 350HO This is where I bought mine from Jason. He works at the Cadiallac dealership in Florida but sells on the internet. It's one of the lowest prices I've seen. Like I said do a search for prices to see who may have the cheapest around. Same part with warranty but different sellers.

Eric- Great idea but you thought about getting a ZZ4 shortblock minus the cam and timing gears? Then you have a great shortblock then add your cam, heads and intake of aftermarket companies and you got a hell of an engine.

87gmc · 01-24-2003, 04:17 AM

Yeah i would go with anything other than jensen. if i were you and was trying to stay cheap and not buy crap i would go with this

Pioneer 3-way 6X9's ($70 at walmart)
6X9 boxes for behind seat ($20 at walmart)
go with some nice 3 1/2's in the dash.
also if you dont have power windows in you truck you can also put some 6.5's in the door for about ($60 at walmart)
get a cheap wimpy 2-channel for the 6x9's or 6.5's if you decide to run all three. but if not then drop the 6X9's

go with an MTX 4122 amp and bridge that into a 10" mtx 6000 Woofer and that will run you maybe ($250 local audio store)
buy a single truck box for about (50-60)

so in the end you at about 400 without the 6.5's but i doubt you will need them. with what you have now you only are $437

anyways thats my two cents

85 K5 · 01-24-2003, 09:03 AM

Here's a better engine price - the 71-85 lists a 265 hp, must be rv cam or something. It's in Dallas, maybe you can save shipping by picking it up yourself.

http://www.goautocenter.com/engines.htm

Goodwrench warranty

AirMale · 01-24-2003, 09:38 AM

I got my motor from www.enginefactory.com They will build anything you want and give you a 1yr. warranty. I bought the 383/450hp package and never had a problem. Once the power bug bites ya you're gonna want more hp! They also sell short/long blocks with your choice of everything, plus these guys know the combonations that work. Good luck.....my advice-> get what you want now!

01-23-2003, 12:17 PM	#1
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	383 idea is out 350 in. I have decided to go with the GM Performance parts 350 HO "Base" engine. After College I will try to put in a 383. I added everything up and new Engine, Exhaust, and interior is going to cost around $5000. I will try to get more info up later on all the things I plan on putting in it. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-23-2003, 12:24 PM	#2
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	Sounds like a good plan. I've been pondering what engine to put in mine and am leaning towards that 350 also. __________________ Scott Shelbourne

01-23-2003, 12:40 PM	#3
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	Its cheap and puts out some decent HP. After the warrenty goes out I'll probably change the cam and lifters to a roller setup if they are cheaper by then if not then I'll just put a bigger cam in it. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-23-2003, 01:03 PM	#4
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	That's my thoughts exactly. I just don't have the money and can't see spending it right now for a 383 buildup. I've actually thought about buying one of these rebuilt short blocks from a local shop ($550) and replacing cam, adding vortec heads and intake, and going from there. However, you never know what you're getting from these guys. __________________ Scott Shelbourne

01-23-2003, 01:16 PM	#5
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	You will like it! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

01-23-2003, 01:38 PM	#7
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I bought the uplevel from it that is sold as complete....no parts chasing needed lol Depends on what truck but most were 2:73's unless ordered with 3:23 or 3:73 But IM sure I will be corrected on that!! lol __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

01-23-2003, 01:42 PM	#8
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	I'm going with the base model so I can put an Edelbrock squarebore carb on it instead of the spreadbore. I'll have to get the rear end changed I don't like 2.73's. Is there anyway to find out what kind of rear end I have? __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-23-2003, 02:05 PM	#9
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	you probly have a 3.08 rearend __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

01-23-2003, 03:18 PM	#10
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	Here is the list Engine Engine GM Per. Parts 350 HO "Base" engine: $2260 from Jegs (809-12486041) Intake manifold Edelbrock Performer Intake: $158 from Jegs (350-2116) Carb. Edelbrock 600 cfm squarebore: $245 from Jegs (350-1406) Distributer Flamethrower HEI Dist.: $219 from Jegs (751-D1000) water pump waterpump: $65 from Summit (SUM-311006) Exhaust Mufflers Edelbrock performer muffler 3" inlet, dual 2.5" outlet: $127x2 from Summit (EDL-5507) X-pipe Hedman universal 3" x-pipe: $193 from Jegs (500-18830) Cats. Dynomax 3" cat. converter: $140x2 from Jegs (289-15147) Exhaust Tips Hooker 2.5" ID, 4" outlet: $36x4 from Jegs (520-22032) Interior Seats Trailmax sport seats: $185x2 from Summit (BST-39347) Trailmax seat adapters: $73x2 from JC Whitney (47UV0167B) Floor Shifter B&M Light Truck Mega Shifter: $166 from Jegs (130-80680) Gauges Mikes Gauge setup: $482 from Jegs Radio Radio Install: $90 @ best buy Amp Jenson 2-channel 720 watt amp: $140 from Summit (RME-JXP720) Rear Speakers Jenson 6"x9" 180 watt speakers: $47 from Summit (RME-XS1693) Subs. Jenson 12" 525 Watt Subs: $40x2 from Summit (RME-XS1212) Front Speakers Kick panel set with speakers: $170 from LMC (38-8508) Total: $5509 __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter Last edited by messed up c-10; 01-23-2003 at 05:28 PM.

01-23-2003, 09:20 PM	#11
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	so what do you guys think of the list? Is there anything I left out or should change? The kick panels I'm not sure about its says in LMC they are for 73-79 but I'm sure I can get some for the same price or cheaper than LMC. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-23-2003, 10:09 PM	#13
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	i'm gonna try and get the zz4 its not that much more than the 350HO deluxe that dave has, and it has aluminum heads, and more torque

01-24-2003, 12:05 AM	#15
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	your exhaust is WAY overkill unless you are gonna be at wot all the time. oh, and get some better stereo stuff, everyone knows jensen stuff sucks!

01-24-2003, 12:10 AM	#16
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	edelbrock doesnt have a performer muffler that goes from 3" to 2.5" other than the dual outlet one. what is wot? __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-24-2003, 12:36 AM	#18
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	Ok right now I'm reworking it. I might go with a 2.5" exhaust all the way through or with 3" until it gets through the cats. then go to 2.5" which if I do that I will be using two 2.5" inlet/outlet mufflers and will only have two tips. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

01-24-2003, 12:52 AM	#19
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	either one of those sounds good to me



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01-24-2003, 04:00 AM	#20
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	I agree you need 2.5" pipe. Also I would call around the dealerships in the area for a price on the engine. They may have a sale going on and not cost in shipping. Also do a search on google for that GM part number and see what comes up. I bet Jim Pace and others can beat Jeg's. Look here 350HO This is where I bought mine from Jason. He works at the Cadiallac dealership in Florida but sells on the internet. It's one of the lowest prices I've seen. Like I said do a search for prices to see who may have the cheapest around. Same part with warranty but different sellers. Eric- Great idea but you thought about getting a ZZ4 shortblock minus the cam and timing gears? Then you have a great shortblock then add your cam, heads and intake of aftermarket companies and you got a hell of an engine. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson Last edited by 79BIG10; 01-24-2003 at 04:14 AM.

01-24-2003, 04:17 AM	#21
87gmc I Got My Engine!!!!! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palmer, AK Posts: 253	Yeah i would go with anything other than jensen. if i were you and was trying to stay cheap and not buy crap i would go with this Pioneer 3-way 6X9's ($70 at walmart) 6X9 boxes for behind seat ($20 at walmart) go with some nice 3 1/2's in the dash. also if you dont have power windows in you truck you can also put some 6.5's in the door for about ($60 at walmart) get a cheap wimpy 2-channel for the 6x9's or 6.5's if you decide to run all three. but if not then drop the 6X9's go with an MTX 4122 amp and bridge that into a 10" mtx 6000 Woofer and that will run you maybe ($250 local audio store) buy a single truck box for about (50-60) so in the end you at about 400 without the 6.5's but i doubt you will need them. with what you have now you only are $437 anyways thats my two cents __________________ F.O.R.D. "F*cked Over Rebuilt Dodge" -+-+-+-+Cameron+-+-+-+- 1987 GMC HIGH SIERRA LWB 1500 32X11.50 383 TBI/Vortec Heads/Intake MSD Ignition Dual Exhaust Custom Pinstriping Sweet interior & stereo http://www.cgalvin29.freehomepage.com

01-24-2003, 09:03 AM	#22
85 K5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Spring TX Posts: 113	Here's a better engine price - the 71-85 lists a 265 hp, must be rv cam or something. It's in Dallas, maybe you can save shipping by picking it up yourself. http://www.goautocenter.com/engines.htm Goodwrench warranty __________________ 350 Crate 10 bolt 3.73 2.5 lift 32x11.50 1904 Edelbrock http://www.oplnk.net/~spirit/K5front.jpg

01-24-2003, 09:38 AM	#23
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	I got my motor from www.enginefactory.com They will build anything you want and give you a 1yr. warranty. I bought the 383/450hp package and never had a problem. Once the power bug bites ya you're gonna want more hp! They also sell short/long blocks with your choice of everything, plus these guys know the combonations that work. Good luck.....my advice-> get what you want now! __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

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