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lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 11:08 AM

Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key???

Bummed.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lyrikz

Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key???

Bummed.

Anyone know????

**LockDoc** · 01-19-2010, 02:27 PM

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The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it...

LockDoc

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it...

LockDoc

does have the original locks, but the door key and the ignition key are different... its a 71.. they have two keys.

trucks72 · 01-19-2010, 02:41 PM

I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trucks72

I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

Crap

usmcchevy · 01-19-2010, 02:51 PM

Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck

pmpski_1 · 01-21-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lyrikz

does have the original locks, but the door key and the ignition key are different... its a 71.. they have two keys.

I have a single key that works for the door and ignition on my 71. I lost the key and just took the cylinder from the door to Bulger lock and key in Seattle and had a new one made.

nickp51chevy · 01-21-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pmpski_1

I have a single key that works for the door and ignition on my 71. I lost the key and just took the cylinder from the door to Bulger lock and key in Seattle and had a new one made.

How much did that cost you? My key is so old it doesn't hit all the thingys (I don't know the right name), and my key is also the same as the door.

lyrikz · 01-21-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pmpski_1

I have a single key that works for the door and ignition on my 71. I lost the key and just took the cylinder from the door to Bulger lock and key in Seattle and had a new one made.

Thats what i was going to try, but i didnt know if they could. Now i know. sweet.

i turned the ignition to the ON position last night for the first time in 2 years.. THAT made me nervous...Also had some interesting stuff happen in my build. I posted that in my build thread.

dfwright · 01-19-2010, 02:47 PM

Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key!

PanelDeland · 01-19-2010, 03:54 PM

When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went.

wwotr · 01-20-2010, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went.

I have done this for MANY of the Vehicles I own!
Get a copy made at the Locksmith (less than $3.00) and get one of those Emerngency Key Keepers (looks like a C.C.) and put it in my Wallet.
Simple/Easy and you've always got a spare.

*vegaschevy* · 01-20-2010, 04:26 AM

I usually just zip tie a spare key under my truck somewhere.

johndawelder · 01-20-2010, 08:23 AM

Hey, I found your keys!!! They were hanging on that nail,right next to the door you walk through a 100 times a day. LOL

lyrikz · 01-20-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo6869

I'll bet money that you will find the original keys soon. That's the way it works.

Glad you got it fixed.

Yep. The thing is now im 100% positive i put the keys on one of those things that go around your neck when your at SEMA. And its gone... I can tfind it....

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Originally Posted by custom72c20

i know this is a little late, but did you check in your tool box?

Yes, i did.. Im still looking for the keys because i need to be able to lock and unlock my door. lol

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Originally Posted by wwotr

I have done this for MANY of the Vehicles I own!
Get a copy made at the Locksmith (less than $3.00) and get one of those Emerngency Key Keepers (looks like a C.C.) and put it in my Wallet.
Simple/Easy and you've always got a spare.

I have a spare now.

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Originally Posted by johndawelder

Hey, I found your keys!!! They were hanging on that nail,right next to the door you walk through a 100 times a day. LOL

HAHA, I actually got up and went and looked.. I put up a nail awhile ago, but it was holding airhose, no keys.

**mr48chev** · 01-19-2010, 04:28 PM

First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places.

I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwright

Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key!

Any ideas where to look.. I have torn stuff all apart. Looked everywhere. Cant find em. the thing is, I PUT THE DAMN cylinder in about 4 months ago, and i know you need the key to install it... And i put the keys somewhere so i wouldnt forget. AHAHA...

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went.

That was awesome.....

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Originally Posted by usmcchevy

Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck

What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face?

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places.

I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

That sounds like a great idea, but i have nothing. No keys.. WEll, i have 2 hidden somewhere, but i cant find em. LOL.

usmcchevy · 01-19-2010, 09:00 PM

What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face?

Ripping the metal face off might (depending on the design of the lock cyl) allow you to unscrew the benzel. I never tried to save my switch, just swapped out everything.

suprachrgd82 · 01-19-2010, 05:39 PM

The lint trap in the washer.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachrgd82

The lint trap in the washer.

Never had them in my pocket. Funny thing is last time i found them i put something on them and told myself this way i wouldnt ever lose them. LOL.

dfwright · 01-19-2010, 06:45 PM

I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later.

I feel for you -- been there and done that

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwright

I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later.

I feel for you -- been there and done that

im a sad panda over here. ahah. I bought a new ignition cylinder, now i just need to make sure i dont screw up my new pretty bezel, new pretty dash trying to drill this thing out....

chas350 · 01-19-2010, 06:58 PM

That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time.
I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down...

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chas350

That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time.
I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down...

Ya. Its makin my brain burn cause i can see them but cant remember where i put them...

01-19-2010, 11:08 AM	#1
lyrikz PITbut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: monroe washington Posts: 3,055	What a bummer. Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key??? Bummed. __________________ New project. 1971 Twin Turbo blazer http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=676047 My new YOUTUBE channel.. Videos of my truck and a current walk around. Lyrikz74 Youtube channel *DONE! SOLD!* My 1971 stepside build thread My Build Thread UPDATED 6/11. DONE and sold.

01-19-2010, 02:27 PM	#3
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,935	Re: What a bummer. - The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

01-19-2010, 02:41 PM	#5
trucks72 trucks72 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crossville Posts: 315	Re: What a bummer. I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

01-19-2010, 02:51 PM	#7
usmcchevy Has more rust than truck... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ivanhoe, MN Posts: 2,421	Re: What a bummer. Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck __________________ 1972 Custom/10 SWB, 4.8/4l80e Build thread LSx Swap FAQ index

01-19-2010, 02:47 PM	#11
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,376	Re: What a bummer. Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key! __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

01-19-2010, 03:54 PM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: What a bummer. When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-20-2010, 04:26 AM	#14
vegaschevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2009 Location: las vegas nv Posts: 1,493	Re: What a bummer. I usually just zip tie a spare key under my truck somewhere.

01-20-2010, 08:23 AM	#15
johndawelder Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Loudon,TN Posts: 101	Re: What a bummer. Hey, I found your keys!!! They were hanging on that nail,right next to the door you walk through a 100 times a day. LOL

01-19-2010, 04:28 PM	#17
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,757	Re: What a bummer. First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places. I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

01-19-2010, 09:00 PM	#19
usmcchevy Has more rust than truck... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ivanhoe, MN Posts: 2,421	Re: What a bummer. What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face? Ripping the metal face off might (depending on the design of the lock cyl) allow you to unscrew the benzel. I never tried to save my switch, just swapped out everything. __________________ 1972 Custom/10 SWB, 4.8/4l80e Build thread LSx Swap FAQ index Last edited by usmcchevy; 01-19-2010 at 09:01 PM.

01-19-2010, 05:39 PM	#20
suprachrgd82 Farmtruck desciple Join Date: May 2009 Location: 90605 Posts: 158	Re: What a bummer. The lint trap in the washer.

01-19-2010, 06:45 PM	#22
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,376	Re: What a bummer. I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later. I feel for you -- been there and done that __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

01-19-2010, 06:58 PM	#24
chas350 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 581	Re: What a bummer. That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time. I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down... __________________ "I'll Procrastinate Tomorrow" quote by LEEVON 71 K10 long fleet (sons truck) new 370hp 355, sm465 np205, 3.73's 33's 70 K20 long fleet 98 G3500 work van



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