cheyenne-10 & super emblem location

[72TXSuperCheyenne]

I am wondering the proper alignment of the "super" in relation to the cheyenne-10 logo on the drivers side fender?

All the "restored trucks" have the super under the cheyenne on both sides.

However, i have original 72 drivers side fender (without any bades) with the holes drilled and it would allow for placement for the right side of "super" emblem flush with the right side of the "10".

Does anyone know for certain?
thanks
Jeff

[71 super]

The super always lines with the "c" in cheyenne. Lots of psuedo supers are lined up on the 10 side and it is a dead give away to a truck that has had emblems added.

[71blksuper4x4]

Harold is spot on, as the Super should start below the Cheyenne on both sides. Awhile back I made a drawing of my fenders, as it should be real close to accurate. Sometimes my eyes get the better of me on measuring. Trevor



Sorry if it doesn't show up that great, I made it to help out Rob on his Superburb, but my cpu crashed and this is the biggest version I have saved.

[72TXSuperCheyenne]

Thanks Guys! I am thinking that fender is from a Custom/10 which had the deluxe set flush to the right on driver's side.

[Dieselwrencher]

Thanks for that guide Trevor!

[jocko]

Ok, I know this is an oooollldddd thread, BUT, if the alignment of the "Super" is supposed to be "S" in super aligned under the "C" in cheyenne, then why are there SOoooo many out there that are done "incorrectly"? Ok, harsh word, what I mean is - "other than originally done by Mr. Chevrolet?" I mean -if you're gonna restore an original "super" then the holes are already in the right place - if you're gonna build a clone, why go to so much effort in the restoration and then drill the dang holes in the wrong place? Hmmm.

And I won't even go into the vertical spacing between the two....

Now, for me, I agree with the above statement that the Super is always aligned with the Cheyenne (i.e. "left justified" as you look at the emblems - from either side of the truck).

And based on looking at the original 72 sales brochure, I'm assuming the exact same logic applies to the Custom Deluxe emblems (i.e. I think post #4 is incorrect (?)).

Can someone put my mind at ease and settle this once and for all? - I'm actually losing sleep over this! (ok, that's an exaggeration, only for effect....)

[Dieselwrencher]

It they're in the wrong spot than either the truck is a Super clone, or maybe the fenders were replaced and whom ever did it installed the emblem in the wrong spot.

[71 super]

Not everyone pays attention nor has access to a build manual etc. If you look at a lot of the clones there are always missing pieces, tailgate handles being a huge one. All supers got a bright tailgate handle (if a fleetside), in 71 the actual handle was chromed, in 72 it was a slip on cover over the stock handle. These are very hard to find and only one person repops them (wes at classic heartbeat). It is funny that most of these clone trucks also ironically are missing the SPID on the glove box door as well. The headliner and cargo light are also indicators but can be faked and tough to tell unless you take out the liner or at least remove the trim- people snap off the tabs that locate it on the cab and just use the screws, and I would guess the cargo light interior holes are difficult to duplicate. These are just a few things that are give aways, but you have to look.

[sameyrasmea72]

There is another problem you see pretty often, where it is correct on one side and incorrect on the other side. This could easily be done on new fenders where you use a pattern to drill the holes. This is done when people drill one fender and Flip the pattern instead of transposing it to the other fender.

This truck may not be a real super (wrong paint and no upper trim) but it is a good example of the flipped pattern.

[jocko]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

There is another problem you see pretty often, where it is correct on one side and incorrect on the other side.

YES - this is how I normally see it (when it's done incorrectly). Beautiful truck though!

[100gold]

This thread makes me want to throw up. I used some fenders off of a 70 custom and never paid one bit of attention to this detail when I put my emblems back on. Argh!

[j carter]

Is this information in a assembly manual?

[Bill Beasley]

Original truck...

[j carter]

I is it anything that tells you the measurements on where the emblems go if u get new fenders

[5025speed]

Can anyone tell me why the C20 big block Cheyenne Supers are easier to find than the C10 big blck supers? Thanks

[71blksuper4x4]

Most 3/4 tons were made to tow or do heaving lifting where as a half ton would have been more for the experience. Even today, Diesels (kind of the same as the old big blocks) are the grunt pullers on 3/4 and 1 tons, but you cannot get one in a 1/2 ton. Depends on the duties you need, and most trucks back then were just that, Trucks. If you wanted a sporty powerful toy, you bought muscle cars then. Trevor

[68 50th]

Haven´t noticed this before. When I restored my 71 Super I changed the left side front fender to a nice used one. It alreday had the emblem holes in it so I just used them
Now I can see the location is not correct for the left side but it is correct for the right side. Looking at old pics from before resto it was correct on the old (original?) left fender

Here´s a pic from the assembly manual that shows the Super emblem location;

[j carter]

Thabks

[knomadd]

I hate to bring up an old thread, but I'm trying to install custom emblems in the factory location. They're billet and don't have holes in the factory location, so I can't use a factory holes to make it work. Plus, I really don't want to drill holes in my fenders that aren't the same as a factory emblem.

Can someone with a Cheyenne take measurements from the edge of the emblem to a good reference, like the back of the fender and possibly the body line above the lower trim, or the top of the fender (with a soft measuring tape)?

I tried to recreate the emblem location based on measurements of an original Cheyenne emblem and the above referenced info and came up with about 3-3/4" from the rear edge of the fender to the emblem and 7-3/4" from the body line to the bottom of the emblem. It just looks too low and too far forward to me, but I don't have one nearby to compare with.

[knomadd]

I got a few photos of the Cheyenne emblems that might help a few members in the future. Thanks to Lolife99 (Keith) for the emblem stud measurements, and this page, I was able to get the emblem located, but looking at it, I was concerned it might be too far forward. Thanks to Chris on the 67-72chevytrucks.com Facebook page for the emblem on fender measurements. I was able to confirm what I had before mounting the emblems. Here are some pictures for reference.

[General23cmp]

So I wanted to revive this older thread as I had a few questions.

1. Does anyone have official drawings that shows the Cheyenne emblem placement. The drawing above when compared to the measuring tape photos after it, are not the same (not really close). The distance from the edge using measuring tape shows ~4-9/16 to the pin hole, but the homemade drawing shows 4-9/32”. I realize these were installed by hand, and thus differences, but this is a difference of over 1/4” and I wonder what the true drawing says.

2. Can anyone check/verify that the pins on both sides of the Cheyenne 10 emblem are the same distance away from their closest edge of the emblem? It doesn’t look like it on the measuring tape photos, but it could just be the angle. You really need them to be the same if you want the emblem to be in the same spot from one side of truck to the other (using the same dimensions to drill your holes).

Thanks.

[Richard]

Post #17 is from the factory assembly manual. Unfortunately it does not show dimensions from and edge as most of the drawings. Some drawings in the manual reference a point. That drawing does not. Regardless, I have not figured out how to determine where the reference point is located. Have a set of nos Cheyenne 10 emblems I can reference to my nos Custom 10 emblems and then measure the holes in my fenders next week.

[Rich72C10]

Originally Posted by pjmoreland

According the factory assembly manual, the left hole for the SUPER emblem is 1.09" directly below the left hole for the Cheyenne emblem. The right hole for the SUPER emblem is 4.15" directly to the right of the left SUPER hole. I drilled mine this way and it looks just like the picture Castiron9 posted. Also the left edges of the Cheyenne and the SUPER emblems are even with each other on both sides of the truck, so on the passenger side, the SUPER emblem is closer to the back of the truck and on the driver side, the super emblem is closer to the front of the truck.

In another older thread pjmoreland said the above - I been looking for this information too and thought I'd post it here and some additional stuff

This is from page 1013 of the Chevy Factory Assembly book - which you need the spread sheet to find anything (even then it hard due to no page numbers). Anyways, odd that it doesn't have a page to show how to center it on the fender - say if you are need to make holes for the Cheyenne 10 badge.

Edit:
rats, can't attach the "assembly manual index.xlsx" sheet

[pjmoreland]

I believe the holes for the larger emblem were drilled when the fender was manufactured. I bought a NOS fender a number of years ago, and that's how it came. You'll probably need to remove your Cheyenne emblems so that you can measure the SUPER emblem hole locations relative to the existing holes.

There's a photo of a NOS fender in this thread.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ght=Nos+fender

[Rich72C10]

Ah, that's very interesting - how lucky to find a NOS fender!

I agree, fender comes off to get it right.