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softballnrd27 · 09-05-2010, 10:55 AM

Well after much internal debate and talking to myself I have decided the direction of the truck for the 17th time. I think I have a solid plan this way and it should perform good and ride like a dream. I have 2 questions that I wanted input from the 73-87 guys. 1st- I want a good performance suspension that will not beat me up for daily driving. I want it to handle the corners fairly well and be able to hook at the dragstrip. I have thought about going with the CPP trailing arm kit and matching front suspension components or going with the ART kit like Ken(N2Trux) has on his truck. What would you do and why?
2nd- What transmission? Auto? Manual? My plans for a motor right now are 6.0 with upgraded internals, cam, heads and possibly a supercharger. I am staying with fuel injection for drivability. Help me out please!!!

BIG KRIS · 09-05-2010, 12:21 PM

im gonna stay tuned for this!

softballnrd27 · 09-05-2010, 03:54 PM

I will start gathering parts during my deployment early next year and start the build process when I get back stateside. I just need to figure out which route I am going to go with for suspension. I will have the truck brought to a body shop a couple months before I get back to get all the bodywork done. I have an idea for paint but that always changes and won't be finalized until it is painted.
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jrcaprai · 09-05-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by softballnrd27

Well after much internal debate and talking to myself I have decided the direction of the truck for the 17th time. I think I have a solid plan this way and it should perform good and ride like a dream. I have 2 questions that I wanted input from the 73-87 guys. 1st- I want a good performance suspension that will not beat me up for daily driving. I want it to handle the corners fairly well and be able to hook at the dragstrip. I have thought about going with the CPP trailing arm kit and matching front suspension components or going with the ART kit like Ken(N2Trux) has on his truck. What would you do and why?
2nd- What transmission? Auto? Manual? My plans for a motor right now are 6.0 with upgraded internals, cam, heads and possibly a supercharger. I am staying with fuel injection for drivability. Help me out please!!!

Are you going to actually buy an LSX block and Start from there, or an LS Aluminum block or ????

softballnrd27 · 09-05-2010, 04:01 PM

LQ4 or 9 6.0l, if I had the money to go with the LSX block then I would make it a 454.
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softballnrd27 · 09-05-2010, 04:04 PM

My budget will be in the $12,000 to $15,000 range so if I went with the ART suspension that would eat up almost half my budget. I am thinking trailing arm suspension and updated front suspension with more money to go towards the motor/tranny and body work.
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jrcaprai · 09-05-2010, 04:06 PM

I see... I thought you were buying an LSX block from the title of this thread...
Nothing wrong with the LQ4 or LQ9's... what fuel injection system are you looking at ?

68GMCCustom · 09-05-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcaprai

I see... I thought you were buying an LSX block from the title of this thread...
Nothing wrong with the LQ4 or LQ9's... what fuel injection system are you looking at ?

get him straight!

LSx = genIII or genIV LS1,2,3,6,7,9,LQ4/9, LM7, etc. alum/iron, block/motor
LSX = GMPP Sportsman block rated at 2k+ horsepower w/6 bolt per/cyl. head support, true priority main oiling, big bore/long stroke (up to 4.20"-4.25" bore & 4.50" stroke?) capability up to 480+ ci short deck, 510ci+ tall deck iron block.

jrcaprai · 09-06-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 68GMCCustom

get him straight!

LSx = genIII or genIV LS1,2,3,6,7,9,LQ4/9, LM7, etc. alum/iron, block/motor
LSX = GMPP Sportsman block rated at 2k+ horsepower w/6 bolt per/cyl. head support, true priority main oiling, big bore/long stroke (up to 4.20"-4.25" bore & 4.50" stroke?) capability up to 480+ ci short deck, 510ci+ tall deck iron block.

you don't need to "get him straight!"
I know what I am talking about, that is why I questioned it...

LS blocks genIII or genIV LS1,2,3,6,7,9,LQ4/9, LM7 are not referred to as LSx. the are LS blocks

and you are very correct about the LSX block

LSX = GMPP Sportsman block rated at 2k+ horsepower w/6 bolt per/cyl. head support, true priority main oiling, big bore/long stroke (up to 4.20"-4.25" bore & 4.50" stroke?) capability up to 480+ ci short deck, 510ci+ tall deck iron block.

**N2TRUX** · 09-06-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcaprai

you don't need to "get him straight!"
I know what I am talking about, that is why I questioned it...LS blocks genIII or genIV LS1,2,3,6,7,9,LQ4/9, LM7 are not referred to as LSx. the are LS blocks .

Apparently you don't "know what I am talking about". The LS series of motors has been referred to as LSx motors long before the GMPP LSX even existed. It was a term coined years ago to give a generic description to the LS motors.

jrcaprai · 09-06-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Apparently you don't "know what I am talking about". The LS series of motors has been referred to as LSx motors long before the GMPP LSX even existed. It was a term coined years ago to give a generic description to the LS motors.

actually I do... LSx meaning x can stand for 1,2,3,7 or whatever?

The OP titled the thread "Going to make the LSX plunge"

I was simply wondering if he was going to use a GMPP LSX Block for his Build..

I don't understand all the attacks though???

softballnrd27 · 09-05-2010, 11:04 PM

I am going to make some upgrades to the stock style injection. I am really hung up on what trans and suspension to run. I really enjoyed the dragstrip when I went a few months ago. If I go manual I am afraid that I will lose some 1/4 mile performance but it will also be a blast to drive it. If I get to caught up in the drag bug then I don't want to have to make serious changes but, I really don't know.

gchemist · 09-05-2010, 11:36 PM

Polygraphite suspension components will do the trick. I have some on my truck. Going around corners or turn arounds is nuts. Tires give before the suspension. I can hear the tires squeal as they start to give. The truck stays relatively flat. The suspension pushes back causing the tires to give first. Daily driving is okay. My ride is a little stiff due to rear traction bars.

68GMCCustom · 09-06-2010, 08:21 PM

LOL...no prob! I'm no spring chicken myself!

menace121978 · 09-06-2010, 08:25 PM

i think the little elves that keep our board running smoothly may have edited the title

jrcaprai · 09-06-2010, 08:30 PM

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i think the little elves that keep our board running smoothly may have edited the title

I think you may be right lmao

jrcaprai · 09-06-2010, 08:32 PM

Hey Menace, how long have you been waiting on the Painter ???

menace121978 · 09-06-2010, 08:40 PM

since the end of February buddy! are all painters the same or what?!

jrcaprai · 09-06-2010, 08:43 PM

Sorry, man... that is why It's called "paint Prison" mine was in for 7 days short of a Year...

*Stitch* · 09-06-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcaprai

Hey Menace, how long have you been waiting on the Painter ???

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Originally Posted by menace121978

since the end of February buddy! are all painters the same or what?!

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Originally Posted by jrcaprai

Sorry, man... that is why It's called "paint Prison" mine was in for 7 days short of a Year...

I have been wondering the same damn thing....just didn't want to open that can of worms...

menace121978 · 09-06-2010, 08:58 PM

thanks Chuck! its getting old... i was just having this conversation with a close friend today. you don't want to rush him but you want your stuff done. rock and hard place. i'm gonna throw the "i want to have her done by sema" line at him this week.

*Stitch* · 09-06-2010, 09:00 PM

lol the old sema line huh?

*Stitch* · 09-06-2010, 09:03 PM

on a side note...I think sometimes it should be called 'interior prison'...we have some cars for a loooooong time...I can say that if we have a customer come in or call us alot, like once a week or more, we work on there stuff more regularly than the other full interiors in the shop...another thing that goes on is that they may be swamped there...we have 5 full interiors in the shop right now that need to be done...3 of them are full one of custom interiors...the cars are stripped inside...the other 2 are assembly cars meaning we have all the aftermarket stuff to put the interior together....

menace121978 · 09-06-2010, 09:08 PM

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lol the old sema line huh?

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Originally Posted by Fat Hoe

on a side note...I think sometimes it should be called 'interior prison'...we have some cars for a loooooong time...I can say that if we have a customer come in or call us alot, like once a week or more, we work on there stuff more regularly than the other full interiors in the shop...another thing that goes on is that they may be swamped there...we have 5 full interiors in the shop right now that need to be done...3 of them are full one of custom interiors...the cars are stripped inside...the other 2 are assembly cars meaning we have all the aftermarket stuff to put the interior together....

oh no! don't tell me that!

*Stitch* · 09-06-2010, 09:13 PM

it's true...just trying to be honest...you should give them a call until they don't want you to call again...lol...if the work is shoddy just don't accept it and make them redo it...it's that easy...if they are a reputable shop, they'll make sure it's right now matter how much you bug them...I know we do...

09-05-2010, 10:55 AM	#1
softballnrd27 Always a work in progress Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harker Heights, TX Posts: 1,599	Going to make the LSx plunge. Well after much internal debate and talking to myself I have decided the direction of the truck for the 17th time. I think I have a solid plan this way and it should perform good and ride like a dream. I have 2 questions that I wanted input from the 73-87 guys. 1st- I want a good performance suspension that will not beat me up for daily driving. I want it to handle the corners fairly well and be able to hook at the dragstrip. I have thought about going with the CPP trailing arm kit and matching front suspension components or going with the ART kit like Ken(N2Trux) has on his truck. What would you do and why? 2nd- What transmission? Auto? Manual? My plans for a motor right now are 6.0 with upgraded internals, cam, heads and possibly a supercharger. I am staying with fuel injection for drivability. Help me out please!!! __________________ USMC Retired Never trust a man who can't laugh at his own fart! 2010 Silverado Crew Cab 73 SWB 5.3/4l80e Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=695168

09-05-2010, 12:21 PM	#2
BIG KRIS Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: romeoville,il Posts: 509	Re: Going to make the LSX plunge. im gonna stay tuned for this! __________________ Flowershop Hip Hop & Street Rods Dropmember 83 Custom Deluxe Almond on Almond 85 Silverado White on Red/Now Chevy LeMans Blue Rendering in Truckin magazine vol 36 no. 11,2010

09-05-2010, 03:54 PM	#3
softballnrd27 Always a work in progress Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harker Heights, TX Posts: 1,599	Re: Going to make the LSX plunge. I will start gathering parts during my deployment early next year and start the build process when I get back stateside. I just need to figure out which route I am going to go with for suspension. I will have the truck brought to a body shop a couple months before I get back to get all the bodywork done. I have an idea for paint but that always changes and won't be finalized until it is painted. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ USMC Retired Never trust a man who can't laugh at his own fart! 2010 Silverado Crew Cab 73 SWB 5.3/4l80e Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=695168

09-05-2010, 04:01 PM	#5
softballnrd27 Always a work in progress Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harker Heights, TX Posts: 1,599	Re: Going to make the LSX plunge. LQ4 or 9 6.0l, if I had the money to go with the LSX block then I would make it a 454. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ USMC Retired Never trust a man who can't laugh at his own fart! 2010 Silverado Crew Cab 73 SWB 5.3/4l80e Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=695168

09-05-2010, 04:04 PM	#6
softballnrd27 Always a work in progress Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harker Heights, TX Posts: 1,599	Re: Going to make the LSX plunge. My budget will be in the $12,000 to $15,000 range so if I went with the ART suspension that would eat up almost half my budget. I am thinking trailing arm suspension and updated front suspension with more money to go towards the motor/tranny and body work. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ USMC Retired Never trust a man who can't laugh at his own fart! 2010 Silverado Crew Cab 73 SWB 5.3/4l80e Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=695168 Last edited by softballnrd27; 09-06-2010 at 12:59 AM.

09-05-2010, 04:06 PM	#7
jrcaprai Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 365	Re: Going to make the LSX plunge. I see... I thought you were buying an LSX block from the title of this thread... Nothing wrong with the LQ4 or LQ9's... what fuel injection system are you looking at ?

09-05-2010, 11:04 PM	#12
softballnrd27 Always a work in progress Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harker Heights, TX Posts: 1,599	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. I am going to make some upgrades to the stock style injection. I am really hung up on what trans and suspension to run. I really enjoyed the dragstrip when I went a few months ago. If I go manual I am afraid that I will lose some 1/4 mile performance but it will also be a blast to drive it. If I get to caught up in the drag bug then I don't want to have to make serious changes but, I really don't know. __________________ USMC Retired Never trust a man who can't laugh at his own fart! 2010 Silverado Crew Cab 73 SWB 5.3/4l80e Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=695168

09-05-2010, 11:36 PM	#13
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. Polygraphite suspension components will do the trick. I have some on my truck. Going around corners or turn arounds is nuts. Tires give before the suspension. I can hear the tires squeal as they start to give. The truck stays relatively flat. The suspension pushes back causing the tires to give first. Daily driving is okay. My ride is a little stiff due to rear traction bars. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

09-06-2010, 08:21 PM	#14
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. LOL...no prob! I'm no spring chicken myself! __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

09-06-2010, 08:25 PM	#15
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. i think the little elves that keep our board running smoothly may have edited the title __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list Last edited by menace121978; 09-06-2010 at 08:25 PM.

09-06-2010, 08:32 PM	#17
jrcaprai Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 365	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. Hey Menace, how long have you been waiting on the Painter ???

09-06-2010, 08:40 PM	#18
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. since the end of February buddy! are all painters the same or what?! __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

09-06-2010, 08:43 PM	#19
jrcaprai Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 365	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. Sorry, man... that is why It's called "paint Prison" mine was in for 7 days short of a Year...

09-06-2010, 08:58 PM	#21
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. thanks Chuck! its getting old... i was just having this conversation with a close friend today. you don't want to rush him but you want your stuff done. rock and hard place. i'm gonna throw the "i want to have her done by sema" line at him this week. __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

09-06-2010, 09:00 PM	#22
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Stitch Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Where I come from, it's cornbread and chicken... Posts: 3,122	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. on a side note...I think sometimes it should be called 'interior prison'...we have some cars for a loooooong time...I can say that if we have a customer come in or call us alot, like once a week or more, we work on there stuff more regularly than the other full interiors in the shop...another thing that goes on is that they may be swamped there...we have 5 full interiors in the shop right now that need to be done...3 of them are full one of custom interiors...the cars are stripped inside...the other 2 are assembly cars meaning we have all the aftermarket stuff to put the interior together....

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Stitch Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Where I come from, it's cornbread and chicken... Posts: 3,122	Re: Going to make the LSx plunge. it's true...just trying to be honest...you should give them a call until they don't want you to call again...lol...if the work is shoddy just don't accept it and make them redo it...it's that easy...if they are a reputable shop, they'll make sure it's right now matter how much you bug them...I know we do...

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