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*rayville body* · 03-06-2003, 01:33 AM

i dont know about you guys but i dont like the way headers on our trucks hang low. i was just thinking abuot different options. 82-92 camaro headers should fit. the 81-87 truck manifolds are the same as the 82-92 camaro low performance manifolds,aernt they? just a thought. anybody else got a good idea or tried somthing of this nature before?

82BlackBeast · 03-06-2003, 02:05 AM

I used some made for a '69 Camaro, but it took some mods to get them in there. They tuck up in the truck real nicely though. I had to modify the motor mount clam shell on the driver's side, build a crossmember and shift linkage, and had to notch the frame on both sides of the motor. Like I said, it took some work but I think it was worth it in the end. Here's a pic....pic

Matt

My Site

*1FaastC10* · 03-06-2003, 03:31 AM

Matt, what brand are those headers? and what is the primary tube size? maybe even a part number?

79BIG10 · 03-06-2003, 03:39 AM

Jeremy here's some info on the truck that has the header info on it. http://www.morgan.net/~mscibek/mods.htm

AirMale · 03-06-2003, 08:59 AM

I think some guys are using 67-74 Chevelle shorty headers from Dynomax. I am lowering my truck to 4/6 and will need new headers as well. I will probably order the Hedman Elite shortys for Chevelle for a couple of reasons. 1. Flanges are 3/8 and I never had a problem with my current ones as far as leaks.
2. The 14 guage tubing keeps the noise down better than thinner wall tubes.
3. The primary tubes are 1 5/8 vs. 1 1/2 tubes on the Dynomax.

The negative is that the Dynonax ceramic headers look much better and come with a lifetime warranty. Do your homework

I hope to be converting to a big-block this summer and was told that the full length Chevelle big-block headers work with a double hump crossmember.

82BlackBeast · 03-06-2003, 10:08 AM

Thanks for putting up that link B!!

1Faast - They are Hedman Hustlers that are ceramic coated. I can get you a part # if you want, I have the receipt around here somewhere.

Matt

**Captkaos** · 03-06-2003, 10:37 AM

Typically the Chevelle headers will work. You can also use the 88-99 pickup headers. A friend used a set of those.
As for full length Chevelle BBC headers, I can tell you that my buddies WON'T go in a pickup without some MAJOR modification to the truck, so check an double check depending on what kind you have.

*1FaastC10* · 03-06-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82BlackBeast
Thanks for putting up that link B!!

1Faast - They are Hedman Hustlers that are ceramic coated. I can get you a part # if you want, I have the receipt around here somewhere.

Matt

that would be sweet. im getting ready to do a 5/7 drop, and dont want any ground clearance problems. i was going to go with shorties, but i'd like the performance of a full length better.

BigRed · 03-06-2003, 11:39 AM

I'm sure he will chime in, but low84 has shortie headers on his truck. I'm pretty sure the are chevelle headers and he didn't have to do any notching to get his in.

*1FaastC10* · 03-06-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigRed
I'm sure he will chime in, but low84 has shortie headers on his truck. I'm pretty sure the are chevelle headers and he didn't have to do any notching to get his in.

they're also 1 5/8" primaries, i'd like to find 1 3/4"

LOHRTBT · 03-06-2003, 01:07 PM

Or you could save your self all that trouble and spend more and get some JBA shorties made for our trucks...no trimming..no notching and no fabricating.

hehe

*1FaastC10* · 03-06-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOHRTBT
Or you could save your self all that trouble and spend more and get some JBA shorties made for our trucks...no trimming..no notching and no fabricating. hehe

not all of us are made of money Dave. i could build a shortblock with what you spent on those headers.

LOHRTBT · 03-06-2003, 02:07 PM

lmao!! Well I am hardly made of money...lol But yeah they did cost a lot...but you know..I am very satisfied with them and seriously doubt they will ever need replaced.

No leaks still and not tightened once in 1.5 years.

ocbaud · 03-06-2003, 02:17 PM

i'm getting the dynomax shorties when i replace my headers

low 84 · 03-06-2003, 03:49 PM

i do have the dynomax chevelle shorties and they fit and work great. when you go over 400 hp though you will really benifit from a full length. after i drop the new motor in this summer i am going to consider what matt did, with the custom tranny crossmember and camaro full lengths, but he tells me its not too fun

82BlackBeast · 03-06-2003, 09:47 PM

Ok, I finally found the blasted receipt for those suckers....the part # at Summit is HED-65003. Also, they are 1 3/4" primaries, I forgot to answer that question before, sorry about that 1Faast. With the shorties that everyone is talking about you shouldn't have to do any mods to the truck to get them to fit, but these are full length and don't hang down below the frame, that's why all the fabrication and "notching" had to be done. Getting some that didn't hang down was what I wanted and these fit nicely as far as that goes. I have about a 6/8 drop and most other full headers would be sitting on the ground. The only real pain was making the crossmember and making sure the tranny mounts at the right angle. But I like the performance of the full length and with my setup I felt they were needed and worth the work. I guess it all just depends on what you want and what you feel should be put in there.

Ryan, let me know when you ready to put some in, I'll head that way and see if I can't give you a hand. I can bring the truck down there so we have something to go off of...

Take care,
Matt

*1FaastC10* · 03-07-2003, 03:07 AM

wow, that does look like a lot of work. but, well worth it in the long run.

kevhill85 · 08-20-2003, 09:32 PM

here a pic low84 headers . he has a 3650 in his truck . he just change cams

here the link to where the pic at .
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=59544

loweredd · 08-21-2003, 02:46 PM

so low 84, those fit with no mods at all?

low 84 · 08-21-2003, 03:38 PM

yes they fit with no mods at all

loweredd · 08-21-2003, 05:17 PM

right on!

phantom dually · 08-21-2003, 09:45 PM

I need a full length header that will fit a SBC and NOT come below the frame rails. Also want them to be coated. No cutting the frame. JUST bolt in!! I know this a lot to ask BUT it has to be out there!!

*1FaastC10* · 08-24-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom dually
I need a full length header that will fit a SBC and NOT come below the frame rails. Also want them to be coated. No cutting the frame. JUST bolt in!! I know this a lot to ask BUT it has to be out there!!

do yourself a favor next time, and read the whole post before you decide to chime in. that's EXACTLY what this post is about.

**old Rusty C10** · 08-24-2003, 09:45 PM

I thought you was banned i paid you money for fender wells but you never shipped this goes back months did ya forget?? when i called and ya said you would ship either money or my wells by the end of the week did you forget that ya owed me?? THIEF THIEF THIEF dont anyone buy from this two bit piece of crap!!!!!!

**68 Stepside** · 08-24-2003, 09:52 PM

He is banned, because he is a thief. The original post is from March Bob :p

03-06-2003, 01:33 AM	#1
rayville body Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: rayville,LA Posts: 226	header idea i dont know about you guys but i dont like the way headers on our trucks hang low. i was just thinking abuot different options. 82-92 camaro headers should fit. the 81-87 truck manifolds are the same as the 82-92 camaro low performance manifolds,aernt they? just a thought. anybody else got a good idea or tried somthing of this nature before?

03-06-2003, 03:39 AM	#4
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	Jeremy here's some info on the truck that has the header info on it. http://www.morgan.net/~mscibek/mods.htm __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

03-06-2003, 08:59 AM	#5
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	I think some guys are using 67-74 Chevelle shorty headers from Dynomax. I am lowering my truck to 4/6 and will need new headers as well. I will probably order the Hedman Elite shortys for Chevelle for a couple of reasons. 1. Flanges are 3/8 and I never had a problem with my current ones as far as leaks. 2. The 14 guage tubing keeps the noise down better than thinner wall tubes. 3. The primary tubes are 1 5/8 vs. 1 1/2 tubes on the Dynomax. The negative is that the Dynonax ceramic headers look much better and come with a lifetime warranty. Do your homework I hope to be converting to a big-block this summer and was told that the full length Chevelle big-block headers work with a double hump crossmember. __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

03-06-2003, 10:37 AM	#7
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Typically the Chevelle headers will work. You can also use the 88-99 pickup headers. A friend used a set of those. As for full length Chevelle BBC headers, I can tell you that my buddies WON'T go in a pickup without some MAJOR modification to the truck, so check an double check depending on what kind you have. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

03-06-2003, 11:39 AM	#9
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	I'm sure he will chime in, but low84 has shortie headers on his truck. I'm pretty sure the are chevelle headers and he didn't have to do any notching to get his in. __________________ Scott Shelbourne

03-06-2003, 02:05 AM	#2
82BlackBeast Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 111	I used some made for a '69 Camaro, but it took some mods to get them in there. They tuck up in the truck real nicely though. I had to modify the motor mount clam shell on the driver's side, build a crossmember and shift linkage, and had to notch the frame on both sides of the motor. Like I said, it took some work but I think it was worth it in the end. Here's a pic....pic Matt My Site

03-06-2003, 03:31 AM	#3
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	Matt, what brand are those headers? and what is the primary tube size? maybe even a part number?

03-06-2003, 10:08 AM	#6
82BlackBeast Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 111	Thanks for putting up that link B!! 1Faast - They are Hedman Hustlers that are ceramic coated. I can get you a part # if you want, I have the receipt around here somewhere. Matt

03-06-2003, 01:07 PM	#11
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Or you could save your self all that trouble and spend more and get some JBA shorties made for our trucks...no trimming..no notching and no fabricating. hehe __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-06-2003, 02:07 PM	#13
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	lmao!! Well I am hardly made of money...lol But yeah they did cost a lot...but you know..I am very satisfied with them and seriously doubt they will ever need replaced. No leaks still and not tightened once in 1.5 years. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-06-2003, 02:17 PM	#14
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	i'm getting the dynomax shorties when i replace my headers

03-06-2003, 03:49 PM	#15
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	i do have the dynomax chevelle shorties and they fit and work great. when you go over 400 hp though you will really benifit from a full length. after i drop the new motor in this summer i am going to consider what matt did, with the custom tranny crossmember and camaro full lengths, but he tells me its not too fun __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

03-06-2003, 09:47 PM	#16
82BlackBeast Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 111	Ok, I finally found the blasted receipt for those suckers....the part # at Summit is HED-65003. Also, they are 1 3/4" primaries, I forgot to answer that question before, sorry about that 1Faast. With the shorties that everyone is talking about you shouldn't have to do any mods to the truck to get them to fit, but these are full length and don't hang down below the frame, that's why all the fabrication and "notching" had to be done. Getting some that didn't hang down was what I wanted and these fit nicely as far as that goes. I have about a 6/8 drop and most other full headers would be sitting on the ground. The only real pain was making the crossmember and making sure the tranny mounts at the right angle. But I like the performance of the full length and with my setup I felt they were needed and worth the work. I guess it all just depends on what you want and what you feel should be put in there. Ryan, let me know when you ready to put some in, I'll head that way and see if I can't give you a hand. I can bring the truck down there so we have something to go off of... Take care, Matt

03-07-2003, 03:07 AM	#17
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	wow, that does look like a lot of work. but, well worth it in the long run. Last edited by 1FaastC10; 03-07-2003 at 02:06 PM.

08-20-2003, 09:32 PM	#18
kevhill85 91 SWB 383 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Crandall,TX Posts: 643	here a pic low84 headers . he has a 3650 in his truck . he just change cams here the link to where the pic at . http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=59544 Attached Images __________________ 96 2dr Tahoe protruning LS1 347/4L60L, PSI harness, body dropped, 4link, 6lug conv, narrowed rearend, Schoenfeld headers, 2600 stall, 317 heads milled .040, http://photobucket.com/albums/q169/k...ahoe prostreet



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08-21-2003, 02:46 PM	#19
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	so low 84, those fit with no mods at all?

08-21-2003, 03:38 PM	#20
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	yes they fit with no mods at all __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

08-21-2003, 05:17 PM	#21
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	right on!

08-21-2003, 09:45 PM	#22
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I need a full length header that will fit a SBC and NOT come below the frame rails. Also want them to be coated. No cutting the frame. JUST bolt in!! I know this a lot to ask BUT it has to be out there!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

08-24-2003, 09:45 PM	#24
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08-24-2003, 09:52 PM	#25
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