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dixietruck71 · 02-03-2011, 10:15 AM

I was out with my wife last night getting dinner. Of coarse we wee driving my truck. wile getting out of the truck at the resturant this guy comes up to talk to me. starts ramblin about some crap from the past. then procedes to tell me his brother bought a truck in 1969 that was a COPO truck. i thought to myself, have another drink buddy. any how i asked if he still had it and no he dosent. no pics either. who would have guessed.

Does any one know if such a truck could be out there? im still thinking its a bunch of bull. but wouldnt it be cool if it were real? Isnt copo just the way the truck was ordered to be built?

just thought you guys would like to have a good laugh and somthing to dream about

cdowns · 02-03-2011, 10:34 AM

thave seen a few COPO trucks but they aint high power super rare collectable racey beasts they were all fleet vehicles like for coke or the armed services or utility companies etc

cam.man67 · 02-03-2011, 10:38 AM

^^ Not exactly true. The two '69 Vic Hickey/Chevy K10s were COPO ordered with a C30 cab (for the roof lights) and an LT-1 pre-production engine.

While most COPO trucks were for fleets and whatnot, I have no doubt that some like the Hickey trucks were hi-po right from the factory. Who knows...maybe one got a 427 and/or M22?

406 Q-ship · 02-03-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cam.man67

^^ Not exactly true. The two '69 Vic Hickey/Chevy K10s were COPO ordered with a C30 cab (for the roof lights) and an LT-1 pre-production engine.

While most COPO trucks were for fleets and whatnot, I have no doubt that some like the Hickey trucks were hi-po right from the factory. Who knows...maybe one got a 427 and/or M22?

Is there any documentation on those trucks, without that it is just a tale. There have been "real" LS-6 1970 Monte Carlos, and all have been proven fake and until a one with paperwork shows up they did not exist. COPOs are just very special ordered vehicles from GM that are equiped in a way that was not available to the general ordering public. So fleet vehicles for companies like U-haul that have funky colors and options are COPOs, along with the 427 Camaros, Chevelles, and LT-1 Novas.

cdowns · 02-03-2011, 12:22 PM

i believe research on vic hickeys baja race trucks will show that he built those trucks in his shop not off the chevy production lines as copo vehicles// same story as the talledaga speedway 427 trucks

cam.man67 · 02-03-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cdowns

i believe research on vic hickeys baja race trucks will show that he built those trucks in his shop not off the chevy production lines as copo vehicles// same story as the talledaga speedway 427 trucks

Are you sure? I always thought they were built on the line, then finished by him, like Holman-Moody for some Mustangs.

http://www.offroadadventures.com/articles/view/id/44

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Originally Posted by Baja Legend Resurfaces
Story & Photos by Ned Bacon

The trucks were COPO (Center Office Production Order) vehicles and were very early off the line for 1969. The truck shown here was number 13!

factorystock · 02-03-2011, 09:14 PM

Without documentation, who knows who is telling the truth. If you had the extra money, talked to a helpful dealer, who gets in touch with the central office the ball would start rolling. A period engine, into a period vehicle is possible. There has been cases of 348's being installed in early 60's pickups thru copo.

Racie · 02-03-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 406 Q-ship

Is there any documentation on those trucks, without that it is just a tale. There have been "real" LS-6 1970 Monte Carlos, and all have been proven fake and until a one with paperwork shows up they did not exist. COPOs are just very special ordered vehicles from GM that are equiped in a way that was not available to the general ordering public. So fleet vehicles for companies like U-haul that have funky colors and options are COPOs, along with the 427 Camaros, Chevelles, and LT-1 Novas.

Yea I have heard the Monte story a million times! My 72 Monte has a big block LS-6 from a 70 Chevelle and people try to tell me all the time that some were even in the 70 Monte's with 4 speeds. Lol...I tell them there were some with 4 speeds but none with an LS-6...then I walk away cause I'd be there all day arguing with a dummy!

factorystock · 02-03-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 406 Q-ship

So fleet vehicles for companies like U-haul that have funky colors and options are COPOs

I agree, I did work part time after school for U Haul in the early 80's and their fleet of late 70's F 350's were special ordered with 330 XD engines, not the regular 351 400 type engines found in regular F 350's. The 330XD was a medium duty 2 ton truck engine with better cooling and lower compression. However, the central office would be a lot more interested in helping you if you bought in large quantities.

Longhorn Man · 02-03-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cam.man67

^^ Not exactly true. The two '69 Vic Hickey/Chevy K10s were COPO ordered with a C30 cab (for the roof lights) and an LT-1 pre-production engine.

While most COPO trucks were for fleets and whatnot, I have no doubt that some like the Hickey trucks were hi-po right from the factory. Who knows...maybe one got a 427 and/or M22?

the cab lights were optional on any pickup, 10, 20 30, k or c series. They weren't even required on C/30 trucks unless the daul rear wheels were installed. No COPO needed for that.

**oldgold70c10** · 02-04-2011, 05:59 PM

Man this thread made me think of the trucks I saw back when I was looking for my first one. Many times the seller would say "yeah, its got the Corvette 327 in it"

I saw one that was a piece, a 68 50th with a lime green step bed and a 327 that he wanted a fortune for because it "has a 'vette motor" in it

**DANTIP** · 02-05-2011, 10:19 AM

In '72, Chevrolet could not even sell 1/2-ton Big-Block trucks in California due to emission standards. Rumors/tales of high-performance factory engines being installed in trucks during production are preposterous. The factory simply would not do that (at least in '72). A dealer or special builder (like Yenko or Nickey) could have ordered and installed a different engine for a customer, but not the factory. Didn't Happen!

**70cst** · 02-05-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DANTIP

In '72, Chevrolet could not even sell 1/2-ton Big-Block trucks in California due to emission standards. Rumors/tales of high-performance factory engines being installed in trucks during production are preposterous. The factory simply would not do that (at least in '72). A dealer or special builder (like Yenko or Nickey) could have ordered and installed a different engine for a customer, but not the factory. Didn't Happen!

Geeeee and I thougt I was on to something when I said:

COPO = Corvette Optioned Pre-Order

**N2TRUX** · 02-03-2011, 12:09 PM

Did it come with the ultra rare "Corvette option"?

CG · 02-03-2011, 12:09 PM

I was just going through some of my old magazines when I was supposed to cleaning my shop. Boxes of old magazines tend to make me forget what I was supposed to be doing heh.

Anyway there was a couple page article in one of em about the Hicky trucks. I should have set it aside and scanned it. I have to go "clean" some more today. Ill see if I can find it again. Unfortunately its in a box that is exactly like 12 other boxes full of magazines lol.

**special-K** · 02-03-2011, 12:17 PM

COPO doesn't mean hi-performance . That's just what it's so widely known for,the creation of monster motor/low option muscle cars. I wonder what this bar stool expert was referring to. I assume he means it had a 427.

dixietruck71 · 02-03-2011, 12:34 PM

Ya he said corvette 427 and 4speed trans. Its kinda funny to me because I have heard so many people say to me its a corvette "Its got a corvette 327 or corvette "lt1 " I didn't realize their was so many vette motors out their.
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**leddzepp** · 02-03-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dixietruck71

Ya he said corvette 427 and 4speed trans. Its kinda funny to me because I have heard so many people say to me its a corvette "Its got a corvette 327 or corvette "lt1 " I didn't realize their was so many vette motors out their.
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There you have it...the Corvette optioned truck

**70cst** · 02-03-2011, 01:34 PM

COPO = Corvette Optioned Pre-Order

dixietruck71 · 02-03-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 70cst

COPO = Corvette Optioned Pre-Order

That's funny, I might have to use that one again!
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**special-K** · 02-03-2011, 12:46 PM

I'd try to find the guy again. He may lead you to the Holy Grail.

I have a '68 truck 327. According to the numbers on the block I can claim it's a '68 Camaro SS350/350hp or a '68 Z/28 302. Did I mention I have a COPO truck with a an SS350 Camaro motor? Yeah,I swear. An'gimmeya nudder one uh them berz,wouldja?BURP!!...'skooze me

dixietruck71 · 02-03-2011, 02:57 PM

So if a copo truck does exist wouldn't it say it on the spid? Or have some kind of special vin or something to prove it. Mabe someone has a pic out their to show?
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Keith Seymore · 02-03-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dixietruck71

So if a copo truck does exist wouldn't it say it on the spid? Or have some kind of special vin or something to prove it. Mabe someone has a pic out their to show?
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I don't think the "COPO" letters would be spelled out on the SPID if that's what you are asking; only the specific SEOs (Special Equipment Options) or RPOs that were ordered.

We see that on some of the labels in the SPID thread; ie, fleet colors, base interiors, etc are called out on the SPID.

K

PanelDeland · 02-03-2011, 05:29 PM

Nothing all that special on the COPO trucks I've seen.Mostly paint color on a low option truck with nothing much else to set it apart from any other.I don't have statistics but I seriously doubt that there were 10% total of COPO orders that were Muscle cars or anything oither than fleet/goverment vehicles.Probably most police cars,taxi cabs,Goverment service vehicles,and such were COPO and they probably cost 2/3 what most cars of the same model did because of the mass order.

I'd like to see a COPO Corvette(about a 66-67 model),maybe ordered with a 6 cyl and 3 OTT.Now that would be a hens tooth.

Keith Seymore · 02-03-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

Nothing all that special on the COPO trucks I've seen.Mostly paint color on a low option truck with nothing much else to set it apart from any other.I don't have statistics but I seriously doubt that there were 10% total of COPO orders that were Muscle cars or anything oither than fleet/goverment vehicles.Probably most police cars,taxi cabs,Goverment service vehicles,and such were COPO and they probably cost 2/3 what most cars of the same model did because of the mass order.

I'd like to see a COPO Corvette(about a 66-67 model),maybe ordered with a 6 cyl and 3 OTT.Now that would be a hens tooth.

Agree. COPO = Central Office Production Order. Just because it's COPO doesn't mean it's necessarily cool or desirable.

My Chevelle is a COPO police car, by the way...

K

02-03-2011, 10:15 AM	#1
dixietruck71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: ravensdale washington Posts: 111	COPO Truck? I was out with my wife last night getting dinner. Of coarse we wee driving my truck. wile getting out of the truck at the resturant this guy comes up to talk to me. starts ramblin about some crap from the past. then procedes to tell me his brother bought a truck in 1969 that was a COPO truck. i thought to myself, have another drink buddy. any how i asked if he still had it and no he dosent. no pics either. who would have guessed. Does any one know if such a truck could be out there? im still thinking its a bunch of bull. but wouldnt it be cool if it were real? Isnt copo just the way the truck was ordered to be built? just thought you guys would like to have a good laugh and somthing to dream about __________________ 71 gme Sierra Grande lwb. 68 Rambler American 2 door 75 jeep cj5

02-03-2011, 10:34 AM	#2
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: COPO Truck? thave seen a few COPO trucks but they aint high power super rare collectable racey beasts they were all fleet vehicles like for coke or the armed services or utility companies etc __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

02-03-2011, 10:38 AM	#3
cam.man67 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Jefferson, MD Posts: 2,397	Re: COPO Truck? ^^ Not exactly true. The two '69 Vic Hickey/Chevy K10s were COPO ordered with a C30 cab (for the roof lights) and an LT-1 pre-production engine. While most COPO trucks were for fleets and whatnot, I have no doubt that some like the Hickey trucks were hi-po right from the factory. Who knows...maybe one got a 427 and/or M22? __________________ '68 Dodge Dart 270, 225, 904, 2.76--"Lucy" 1996 Gmc 1500 Z71, 350, 4l60e, 3.73s 1995 Jeep Wrangler Rio Grande 2.5, AX5, 4.10s 1989 Toyota Pickup 22re, auto, 3.73 Last edited by cam.man67; 02-03-2011 at 10:40 AM.

02-03-2011, 12:22 PM	#5
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: COPO Truck? i believe research on vic hickeys baja race trucks will show that he built those trucks in his shop not off the chevy production lines as copo vehicles// same story as the talledaga speedway 427 trucks __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

02-03-2011, 09:14 PM	#7
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,396	Re: COPO Truck? Without documentation, who knows who is telling the truth. If you had the extra money, talked to a helpful dealer, who gets in touch with the central office the ball would start rolling. A period engine, into a period vehicle is possible. There has been cases of 348's being installed in early 60's pickups thru copo.

02-04-2011, 05:59 PM	#11
oldgold70c10 Who's got steelies? Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Morrison, Oklahoma Posts: 1,025	Re: COPO Truck? Man this thread made me think of the trucks I saw back when I was looking for my first one. Many times the seller would say "yeah, its got the Corvette 327 in it" I saw one that was a piece, a 68 50th with a lime green step bed and a 327 that he wanted a fortune for because it "has a 'vette motor" in it __________________ 1969 C10 LWB W/ 250 I6 & 3spd 1970 C10 with '67 small window cab, 68 front end, blue; 305/TH350, 3.08 limited slip rear end, manual brakes, power steering; & 4-wheel drums-My daily driver. 1975 Chevelle Malibu Classic Coupe 350/th350 mint green 1970 C20 Suburban 350/700R4 4.10 gearing green & white 1978 Big 10 Silverado 350/th350, working ac, 2 tone blue-My summer daily driver 1983 GMC 1500 Sierra 305/SM465 2.73 rear end How to add a trip odometer to your 67-72 stock speedometer How to rebuild your Q-Jet My Truck Page My Youtube Channel

02-05-2011, 10:19 AM	#12
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,890	Re: COPO Truck? In '72, Chevrolet could not even sell 1/2-ton Big-Block trucks in California due to emission standards. Rumors/tales of high-performance factory engines being installed in trucks during production are preposterous. The factory simply would not do that (at least in '72). A dealer or special builder (like Yenko or Nickey) could have ordered and installed a different engine for a customer, but not the factory. Didn't Happen!

02-03-2011, 12:09 PM	#14
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02-03-2011, 12:09 PM	#15
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,044	Re: COPO Truck? I was just going through some of my old magazines when I was supposed to cleaning my shop. Boxes of old magazines tend to make me forget what I was supposed to be doing heh. Anyway there was a couple page article in one of em about the Hicky trucks. I should have set it aside and scanned it. I have to go "clean" some more today. Ill see if I can find it again. Unfortunately its in a box that is exactly like 12 other boxes full of magazines lol. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

02-03-2011, 12:17 PM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: COPO Truck? COPO doesn't mean hi-performance . That's just what it's so widely known for,the creation of monster motor/low option muscle cars. I wonder what this bar stool expert was referring to. I assume he means it had a 427. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-03-2011, 12:34 PM	#17
dixietruck71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: ravensdale washington Posts: 111	Re: COPO Truck? Ya he said corvette 427 and 4speed trans. Its kinda funny to me because I have heard so many people say to me its a corvette "Its got a corvette 327 or corvette "lt1 " I didn't realize their was so many vette motors out their. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 71 gme Sierra Grande lwb. 68 Rambler American 2 door 75 jeep cj5

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70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,374	Re: COPO Truck? *COPO = Corvette Optioned Pre-Order* __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder! Last edited by 70cst; 02-03-2011 at 01:35 PM.

02-03-2011, 12:46 PM	#21
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: COPO Truck? I'd try to find the guy again. He may lead you to the Holy Grail. I have a '68 truck 327. According to the numbers on the block I can claim it's a '68 Camaro SS350/350hp or a '68 Z/28 302. Did I mention I have a COPO truck with a an SS350 Camaro motor? Yeah,I swear. An'gimmeya nudder one uh them berz,wouldja?BURP!!...'skooze me __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-03-2011, 02:57 PM	#22
dixietruck71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: ravensdale washington Posts: 111	Re: COPO Truck? So if a copo truck does exist wouldn't it say it on the spid? Or have some kind of special vin or something to prove it. Mabe someone has a pic out their to show? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 71 gme Sierra Grande lwb. 68 Rambler American 2 door 75 jeep cj5

02-03-2011, 05:29 PM	#24
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: COPO Truck? Nothing all that special on the COPO trucks I've seen.Mostly paint color on a low option truck with nothing much else to set it apart from any other.I don't have statistics but I seriously doubt that there were 10% total of COPO orders that were Muscle cars or anything oither than fleet/goverment vehicles.Probably most police cars,taxi cabs,Goverment service vehicles,and such were COPO and they probably cost 2/3 what most cars of the same model did because of the mass order. I'd like to see a COPO Corvette(about a 66-67 model),maybe ordered with a 6 cyl and 3 OTT.Now that would be a hens tooth. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil" Last edited by PanelDeland; 02-03-2011 at 05:29 PM.



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