4spd linkage

[68c10owner]

I might be picking up a 65 shortbed and will be dropping my 350/4spd into it. I know some of the early trucks had hydraulic clutch linkage but what about the 65`s? Is there a conversion kit available or will I have to piece it together?

[63sbssbbw]

Hydraulic clutch, yes 60-61 or 2, 63's definitely mechanical
hydraulic linkage,no
4 speed no linkage,shifter comes right out of the gearbox.
sounds like you'll have to piece it together
T

[markeb01]

Do you want hydraulic linkage, or do you prefer the original mechanical setup?

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by 63sbssbbw

Hydraulic clutch, yes 60-61 or 2, 63's definitely mechanical
hydraulic linkage,no
4 speed no linkage,shifter comes right out of the gearbox.
sounds like you'll have to piece it together
T

I was talking about the pedal and z-bar. I`ve got a T-10 4spd so it`s not a truck tranny

Originally Posted by markeb01

Do you want hydraulic linkage, or do you prefer the original mechanical setup?

I don`t know honestly. My el camino had mechanical and im ok with it. I guess which ever one os easier to come up with. I still have to go look at the truck but Im just trying to do a little research on the 4spd stuff. I know the shifter that is for my el camino probably wont work but Im planning on using a late model bench so maybe it will? If not Ill have to get a different shifter.

[markeb01]

Mechanical linkage would probably be easier, since all the engineering is factory it would just be a matter of collecting and assembling. If you want to run long tube headers, the hydraulic system becomes more favorable. Captainfab sells a kit to convert to a hydraulic system which could probably be used on a 65:

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=362375

Or you can fabricate your own like I did, shown in post #2:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...draulic+clutch

Hurst finally offers a bolt on stick for the 55-57 bench seat application, so this might provide some flexibility in shifter selection:



http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUU-5388620/?rtype=10

If using a bench seat just make sure to avoid the Hurst Street Super Shifter. If mounts the shifter head farther back and higher up and will not clear a bench seat no matter what stick is used.

[MikeN]

Originally Posted by markeb01

If using a bench seat just make sure to avoid the Hurst Street Super Shifter. If mounts the shifter head farther back and higher up and will not clear a bench seat no matter what stick is used.

What would be a good shifter to use on a Muncie M20 if the Super Shifter won't work?

[markeb01]

Originally Posted by MikeN

What would be a good shifter to use on a Muncie M20 if the Super Shifter won't work?

My recommendation would be the regular Hurst Competition Plus shifter. It mounts the shifter head low on the tail housing, and has bent rods that snake around and run somewhat uphill from the shifter to the shifts arms on the transmission side cover. This is what I had in my truck when I first swapped in a Super T10 4 speed. Then I got the bug to move up to the Street Super Shifter mounting. It uses a different bracket and rods that run straight forward from the shifter. It’s almost like a power shifter by comparison, because of changing the angles between the arms on the transmission and shifter. The problem being the shifter head mounts several inches farther back and higher up and is now partially inside the cab. Before, the shifter sat below the floor and in front of the removable floor pan. Even with the 55 Chevy handle, I could never go back to a bench seat unless I went back to the lower/forward shifter mount on the transmission.

Here are comparison photos showing the shifter location. The first is standard Hurst Competition Plus, the second is the same shifter mechanism with the Street Super Shifter mounting and straight rods:

[68c10owner]

Thanks. Ill have to consider that hydraulic set up. Looks like it will be the easiest choice. The shift I have is a comp plus but it doesn`t have the typical 2 bolt mount set up so I can`t just change sticks. I would just have to sell mine and buy another one.

[A.T. RockDriller]

I might be missin somethin.....but my '63 GMC's both have hydraulic clutches as original equipment.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was unique to the GMC side.

[Captainfab]

Yes the GMC's had the hydraulic clutch from '60-'63 whereas the Chevy's had the hydrauilc clutch from '60-'62.

Originally Posted by A.T. RockDriller

I might be missin somethin.....but my '63 GMC's both have hydraulic clutches as original equipment.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was unique to the GMC side.

To the OP. That '65 would have had a mechanical clutch originally, which would make it easy to stay with that type. However, depending on what you want to run for headers or exhaust manifolds, converting to a hydraulic clutch may be easiest. Headers that will work in these trucks with the mechanical clutch linkage, are limited to long tubes.

[63sbssbbw]

Originally Posted by 68c10owner

I might be picking up a 65 shortbed and will be dropping my 350/4spd into it. I know some of the early trucks had hydraulic clutch linkage but what about the 65`s? Is there a conversion kit available or will I have to piece it together?

Note to self...
Always read original post TWICE before opening my mouth..LOL
Sorry Anthony
T

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by 63sbssbbw

Note to self...
Always read original post TWICE before opening my mouth..LOL
Sorry Anthony
T

It`s all good. I didn`t specify what tranny I was using so how could you know?

[bama63]

you might try this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/GM-Sto...ring,1945.html ,works great on my buddys camaro and real easy to install