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Here's are some details I've run across when restoring a '65 C10 Long/Fleet with a 292 and 3 speed. Some of these may not be applicable for all 60-66 trucks; just noting what I found during the restoration of the '65.
The bellhousing had an overspray pattern on it and you can see the Alpine Green color that is correct for a 292. It seems that the engines and bellhousings were painted assembled and no form of masking was used. Replicated during restoration: The interior heater diverter box had a textured paint from the factory. Rustoleum makes a paint the duplicates it well. The deluxe knob on the heater is incorrect, I added it to match the dash knobs. On the heater assembly, the factory sealed the seams with a flexible, non hardening seam sealer. I used white strip caulk from Ace Hardware to replicate it when reassembling the heater unit. Aluminum bodied carburetors can be recolored using PPG DX503 Auminum Conditioner. Wooden bed floors, bolt heads, and the wear strips were painted black from the factory. The grain of the wood was visible through the paint, but should have slightly more gloss than the '65 I restored. The plated bolts in the pic are incorrect. If you have to replace any sheetmetal that was spot welded it, you can grind your welds down flat and use a 1/2" round carbide burr to dimple the sheetmetal to replicate the factory spot welds. The interior did not have gloss paint. I used Spies Hecker basecoat without spraying clear over it. The color is Nissan "Sunlit Sand", code "EVO", matched to an unfaded spot on the back of the steering wheel. We did have it tinted slightly browner to match better. I asked a few guys and ended up thinning the basecoat 50%, then added 15% hardener to that volume of paint. It came out just right- slight sheen and wet enough so the metallic laid out just right. The door panel screws should be zinc/nickel/cadium? plated instead of painted. Here's a couple details from my '66 C10. Chalk markings on the front of the bed header panel. Original paint color from the 250 inline six engine. A good code to mix this from is from a Mack truck, code 14704, "jet turquoise". We left part of the white and black out when mixing the paint, then added them back in until we got it close. We may have ended up adding more black than the code called for. I may still tint it a little darker to match better, but that code will give you a good starting point. Different lighting conditions throw the color off between these two pics, and it has much more of a green tint in person. Hope these help! I'm glad a thread like this was started as I'm really into seeing anything restored back to 100% factory specs!
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If your truck is a '65 the motor is a 230 and that's probably the correct color. The 250 (first year '66) was the alpine green
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When I cleaned up the coil I found the original sticker under the bracket to be in good shape. I cleaned and painted around the sticker and lifted the coil out of the bracket an inch so that it was visible
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Hi. Does anyone happen to know if this truck is a C10 or an Apache? The title only says 1961 Chevy PU. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Had a little bit of a setback, didn't realize that someone back in the day decided to screw the voltage reg to the inner fender. I ended up welding up the holes and putting it back where it belongs.
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What is the Shape of the Leaf Springs Ends
Shape of leaf spring ends, photos below are of 1964 K10 built in St Louis, rear springs. Were the leaf spring ends cut square or were they rounded/tapered some. They could have been both ways depending on supplier and/or where the truck was made. The last photo shows other rear spring parts. Note: The bottom helper spring does not look original, in photos 1 and 2 below. Will post photos of front springs next, they are not as rounded, however, not cut square either. Les Last edited by aotte1; 12-19-2015 at 10:42 PM. |
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Excellent idea for a thread, 1Bad. I can even contribute a little to something I have personally seen asked. I have heard someone ask in the past about painting of the chassis and such. My '63 C20 Longbed Stepside was a valuable find in that it sat in a barn for many, many years, and as such retained some interesting tidbits. It still had a LOT of the original undercoating inside the rear fenders and in spots on the frame. The stuff is coming loose, so I peeled a couple spots back and took some pictures. Here is the frame primer:
This second picture is from the bedside. The wheel wells were heavily undercoated and beneath that was black primer. Notice the blue tint? That is overspray from when the truck was painted, so this definitely tells us the truck was undercoated after getting painted. It also gives an idea of how much overspray, which actually is important in concours restorations. I hope this info is of value to someone, I sure found it interesting.
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No Problem.
And there is alot of guys on here have alot of usefull info, pictures and schematics that can help out. Pretty sure theres some threads out there so if ya find one you can post the links to them. Also someone metioned the FAQ side. The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > Info Center > FAQ > FAQ Truck Tech 60-66 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/f...play.php?f=219 1960-1966 Chevy/GMC Pickup Truck Specs & Engine/Trans/Axle ID's http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=327764 1960-66 Chevy/GMC Truck Frame Diagram http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=325736
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Instead of having to mix your own paint I have found that Autocolor Library has the original Ditzler paint codes for all the 64, 65, 66 trucks. PPG bought Ditzler out and in their OMNI series of regular enamal paint they have the formulas for the original colors. On the Interior paints it is mixed with a lot of reducer in it to flatten the color, i.e if you would normally add reducer 1:1 for Medium Fawn Metalic a exterior color, the interior color medium fawn metalic has so much reducer in it that you only add 1/8th or 1/16th the reducer when you get ready to shoot it .
All of the exterior colors are available in OMNI single stage and also in Base Coat Clear Coat. www.autocolorlibrary.com Kieth |
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Well I do not know about problems with OMNI, my dash looks great, the metalic does show but it is not as shiny as the base coat clear coat we used on the grill shell.....and we used OMNI base coat clear coat on the outside of my gmc......it looks pretty good. So just trying to help others out. Kieth
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I'm not saying Omni is a bad paint; just that in certain applications there are better paints. I've used plenty of single stage solid color Omni on wheels and small parts that has sprayed out and held up just fine. As little toners/pigments Omni has, spraying it over-reduced to flatten the gloss would take alot of coats to get good color coverage. The Spies Hecker and PPG DBC base coats I've used cover pretty well with the first coat, and the second coat covers completly.
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I don't know that I can add too much.
This is the original bed in my '63. The floor used to all be black, but obviously, the black has all faded away. The headlight bezels on a '63 with a painted grill should have a black ring around the inside. No one ever seems to put that back, though. There's black paint behind the grill, too. I don't know what you can get off of this, but it's pretty original in here. Someone added an aftermarket windshield washer bottle along the way. There are actually some faint chalk marks on the firewall, but you can't see them in this picture. These are the original wheels with the original paint on my '63. They used these hubcaps from '61-'63. Usually, they were painted white like the grill. They don't make them aftermarket, so guys'll often put the '64-up type caps on the older models. I guess that's not all that helpful, but those are a couple of the bigger things that don't seem to get put back on a lot of the restored trucks. I like theastronaut's thing about the interior color, too. Seems like interior panels and headliners are often painted body color on restored trucks, but I do usually think the stock fawn beige look goes a long way in making it look correct. |
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Correct pattern for 1966 Deluxe seat covers, this is an original cover.
Correct pattern for 1965-1966 Deluxe seat covers (the tan vinyl is not the correct color, should be silvery-gold, but the cloth is correct). Not the best pic but here's how the factory masked off the white stripe on the cab corners for models with side trim. The radiator shrouds had metal staples to hold the seals in place. Seat tracks should be silver zinc/cadium plated, seat frame is low gloss black (not flat), the hinge bolt is a silver plated finish, back rest adjustment screw should be silver plated. Not sure what the seat track to floor bolts were so I painted them a contrasting black. Silver colored plating was probably correct on those. Underside of the hood was painted black from the factory. I used low gloss but I don't think they had that much sheen originally. Satin would be more correct. Fleetside models had filler panels under the bumpers. Not sure of the correct finish of the bolts so I used polished stainless. These may have been painted body color? Original grease pencil marking on the steering column plate, interior side.
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on 1966 only the door panels are med fawn met. with a flatten agent also the dash on 1966 is dark fawn met with a flatten agent and a ruffing agent they are laq. the dash on 66 must turn darker over the years
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This darker color on the dashes in 1966 was intentional, a detail almost always missed. This was done to cut down on windshield glare.
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The two tone dash went back to '60. All GMC had the darker dash for anti-glare. This shade is NOT the technically correct one, but it is what I LIKED! I included extra pictures showing the breaks in the paint pattern.
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I've seen 1960 and 1961 GMCs exactly like your dash. Silver interior dark gray dash top. 1962 GMC Fawn interior with dark gray dash top. 1962 GMC Fawn with green dash top to go with the green seat. 1963 GMC, my own truck, solid fawn interior including the dash top in fawn. 1964 GMC ? 1965 , I had a short fleet custom with the green seat but solid fawn interior and dash top and white custom door panels. My 65 and 66 GMCS both customs all solid fawn interiors and dashes custom seat cloth fawn ish and white door panels. Then theres the 1966 GMC Buddy bucket trucks with the dark dash tops. So how many years was the green seat with the green dash top offered ? How many years offered the two tone dash ? It seems like 63-66 were excluded and some years optional.??
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