NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**clemdaddy** · 11-07-2011, 09:58 PM

got a 1-ton dually with a 4-speed granny. has the big hump tunnel and all the original equipment and low-low gears. 60mph = 3200rpm

what are the pros and cons of the later five speed trans?

install difficulty? shifter location? hydraulic clutch conversion?
towing and highway driving benefits? which would you run, 3500 or 4500?

need to do this, the dually has become the daily.

thanks, clem

coops714x4 · 11-07-2011, 10:21 PM

in a 1 ton I would go with the 4500 its cast iron and heavier built than a 3500, do you want to run a hyd clutch ?? if not you can change the front bearing retainer and run a mech clutch, installation is easy depending on what year the tranny is early years use the same bell housing as your sm465. and if you have a later year tranny you can get the bellhousing from several diff places I like the adv. adpt. as far as the shifter location its about 3 to 4 inches straight back from your sm465. you will basicly have exactly what you have now BUT with a overdrive. tho first (granny) is not quite as low
the 3500 has a intergrated bell housing and you would HAVE to use a hyd. clutch and its not near as strong, hope this helps Coop

**Captainfab** · 11-08-2011, 01:52 AM

I agree, you will want the NV4500 in a 1 ton.

**clemdaddy** · 11-08-2011, 08:52 AM

thanks guys. 4500 it is...
i think i want to convert to the hyd. clutch.
do quite a bit of towing and trailer backing seems to wear out the mechanical throw-out bearing in just a couple of years. driving skills may be an issue also, lol. i buy the best american made bearings but doesn't seem to make much difference. maybe the hyd. system will be better.

will try to find a 4500 with all the brackets and the cylinder pieces included.

thanks again, clem

**Clyde65** · 11-08-2011, 10:49 AM

I think someone here makes a Hyd clutch adapter for our trucks......CaptnFab I think it is.

Leadfoot Lambert · 11-08-2011, 09:53 PM

Ive got a nv3500 in my 1/2 ton with a capt fab hydraulic clutch linkage and bracket kit, it all works perfect, nice light clutch pedal. Capt fabs stuff is top notch!

**clemdaddy** · 11-09-2011, 08:53 AM

too true on captfab stuff... got 2 of his ps mounting kits. they're great.
will contact him for clutch kit.

thanks again guys...

**clemdaddy** · 11-22-2011, 03:13 PM

here's my C-30. some have seen this pic.
i have checked cl in the area and a couple of the salvages nearby and this NV4500 may be tough to find.

is there a better year to look for that may be more available.
the NV3500 from half tons is easier to find.

anybody got a 4500 out there. need all attachments too.

thanks, clem

**rideblue00** · 11-22-2011, 10:28 PM

clem, you have a very nice C-30 there. I really like the dually/flatbed setup. Thought about makin my C-20 into a flat. But then i looked for bed. Not to many around here. Or cheap either.

**Clyde65** · 11-23-2011, 10:41 AM

your not too far from me, here is an ad for ya...

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/2656650132.html

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/2630658048.html

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/2703877263.html

Also Sprindale Ark LKQ has a couple 5speeds, not sure if 3500 or 4500 but you could call them.

**clemdaddy** · 11-23-2011, 12:39 PM

wow clyde, thanks!

**Clyde65** · 11-23-2011, 12:41 PM

Oh, BTW, I love your truck, if I had a need, that is how I would set one up.

11-07-2011, 09:58 PM	#1
clemdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 1,925	NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 got a 1-ton dually with a 4-speed granny. has the big hump tunnel and all the original equipment and low-low gears. 60mph = 3200rpm what are the pros and cons of the later five speed trans? install difficulty? shifter location? hydraulic clutch conversion? towing and highway driving benefits? which would you run, 3500 or 4500? need to do this, the dually has become the daily. thanks, clem

11-07-2011, 10:21 PM	#2
coops714x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cement Oklahoma Posts: 916	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 in a 1 ton I would go with the 4500 its cast iron and heavier built than a 3500, do you want to run a hyd clutch ?? if not you can change the front bearing retainer and run a mech clutch, installation is easy depending on what year the tranny is early years use the same bell housing as your sm465. and if you have a later year tranny you can get the bellhousing from several diff places I like the adv. adpt. as far as the shifter location its about 3 to 4 inches straight back from your sm465. you will basicly have exactly what you have now BUT with a overdrive. tho first (granny) is not quite as low the 3500 has a intergrated bell housing and you would HAVE to use a hyd. clutch and its not near as strong, hope this helps Coop __________________ 1971 K20, Coop's beast (project) 1972 C30 wrecker, "Big Ernest" (SOLD) 1975 K5 Blazer (wife's toy) she got it in the divorce 2014 Street Glide Special 1983 K20 Big Block, auto (work horse)

11-08-2011, 01:52 AM	#3
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11-08-2011, 08:52 AM	#4
clemdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 1,925	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 thanks guys. 4500 it is... i think i want to convert to the hyd. clutch. do quite a bit of towing and trailer backing seems to wear out the mechanical throw-out bearing in just a couple of years. driving skills may be an issue also, lol. i buy the best american made bearings but doesn't seem to make much difference. maybe the hyd. system will be better. will try to find a 4500 with all the brackets and the cylinder pieces included. thanks again, clem

11-08-2011, 10:49 AM	#5
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,547	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 I think someone here makes a Hyd clutch adapter for our trucks......CaptnFab I think it is. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

11-08-2011, 09:53 PM	#6
Leadfoot Lambert Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saco, Maine Posts: 377	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 Ive got a nv3500 in my 1/2 ton with a capt fab hydraulic clutch linkage and bracket kit, it all works perfect, nice light clutch pedal. Capt fabs stuff is top notch! __________________ 65 Chevy short fleet 350 5 speed, soon to be LSX powered 65 F100 short fleet 91 Heritage softail 94 Fatboy 11 Softail Deluxe [wife's bike] 13 Streetglide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMFMw...eature=mh_lolz

11-09-2011, 08:53 AM	#7
clemdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 1,925	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 too true on captfab stuff... got 2 of his ps mounting kits. they're great. will contact him for clutch kit. thanks again guys...

11-22-2011, 03:13 PM	#8
clemdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 1,925	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 here's my C-30. some have seen this pic. i have checked cl in the area and a couple of the salvages nearby and this NV4500 may be tough to find. is there a better year to look for that may be more available. the NV3500 from half tons is easier to find. anybody got a 4500 out there. need all attachments too. thanks, clem Attached Images

11-22-2011, 10:28 PM	#9
rideblue00 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lambertville, MI Posts: 1,868	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 clem, you have a very nice C-30 there. I really like the dually/flatbed setup. Thought about makin my C-20 into a flat. But then i looked for bed. Not to many around here. Or cheap either.

11-23-2011, 10:41 AM	#10
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,547	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 your not too far from me, here is an ad for ya... http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/2656650132.html http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/2630658048.html http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/2703877263.html Also Sprindale Ark LKQ has a couple 5speeds, not sure if 3500 or 4500 but you could call them. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!* Last edited by Clyde65; 11-23-2011 at 10:51 AM.

11-23-2011, 12:39 PM	#11
clemdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 1,925	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 wow clyde, thanks!

11-23-2011, 12:41 PM	#12
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,547	Re: NV3500 or NV4500 for C-30 Oh, BTW, I love your truck, if I had a need, that is how I would set one up. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*



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