need all the advice in can get

[pale-rider]

well this is my first post here been sliding around the back drop...... long story short my wife bought me a 69 c10 for our anniversary well the PO swapped in a ford 9" did and axle flip and installed lowering shackles. the frame is c notched.... problem is when the PO did this they cut all the shock mounts off and everything so needless to say the truck has no rear shocks and i cant drive it because there is maybe 1 inch between the axle tube and c notch... i was going to re-flip the axle and just buy weld on shock mounts but i like the way the truck sits don't really want to raise it a lot... so i need options as to what i can do for the rear suspension with out selling the farm i will get pics up as soon as i find the camera....... Thank you in advance

[pale-rider]

here are the pictures they are off my cell phone also the drop shackle is a 6" drop shackle or at least that is what is measures from center hole to center hole

[SCOTI]

You're going to have to make some decisions.... it needs to be raised up for suspension travel clearance or the c-notches need to be removed for taller step notches.

Once you decide that, you can do some weld-on shock brackets to get that bouncing under control.

[tubbedII]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

You're going to have to make some decisions.... it needs to be raised up for suspension travel clearance or the c-notches need to be removed for taller step notches.

Once you decide that, you can do some weld-on shock brackets to get that bouncing under control.

X2...with that little of suspension travel, a shock is not going to prevent you from bottoming out.

[pale-rider]

if i relocate the axle under the leaf spring and leave the 6" drop shackle how much clearance would i be looking at? also how much clearance would be necessary?

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by pale-rider

if i relocate the axle under the leaf spring and leave the 6" drop shackle how much clearance would i be looking at? also how much clearance would be necessary?

6" drop would be from relocating the axle from below to above the leafs. Drop shackles typically yield between 1-2" of drop (possibly more if they're some home built units).

[blime81]

I won't fix your shocks but it should add the height you need out back.

Just keep in mind that buying that kit isn't the complete solution. You'll need air management which can be as simple as schrader valves you fill at a gas station to as complex as a tank, compressor and 4 valves with switches. Fittings, line, valves, tanks and compressors all add up.

I'd suggest a schrader on each bag as a start because it will get you rolling and then perhaps a manual valve setup with a small tank and compressor as your wallet allows (or until you get the bug and really dive in...).

[pale-rider]

I had already planned on running schrader valves do to ease until i redo the entire suspension front and rear... as far as shocks what i was looking into doing was upper shock studs through the frame rails and weld on lowers on the axle tube... similar to how n2trux has... but if this system will give me what i need im going to get it. anyone have pics on what they look like installed?

[SCOTI]

These are the only AOL pics I have. It's a RideTech 'kit', but still has the same basic parts & should install similarly.

[pale-rider]

yup that would be the setup i was looking at lol any pics of how the lower shock mounts are dont that is the only factor i have left i looked at that link you posted SCOTI and im sure those will work just wanna covert all my bases and i like to see pics so i know exactly what i need to do... Thank you

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by pale-rider

yup that would be the setup i was looking at lol any pics of how the lower shock mounts are dont that is the only factor i have left i looked at that link you posted SCOTI and im sure those will work just wanna covert all my bases and i like to see pics so i know exactly what i need to do... Thank you

On that particular set-up, I remember them using the factory lower shock mounts. On the pass side, they just cut it off & swapped it so the shock would mount to the back side of the rear-end housing vs the front. They then attached the shock stud to the frame in the same area as was done on the driver side.

[blime81]

Alot of guys forget the offroad shops when building a bagged classic but any good offroad shop will have weld on shock tabs, upper studs and perches etc.

ORW in San Marcos usually has everything you could need but there are lots of them here in SoCal.

[pale-rider]

Originally Posted by blime81

Alot of guys forget the offroad shops when building a bagged classic but any good offroad shop will have weld on shock tabs, upper studs and perches etc.

ORW in San Marcos usually has everything you could need but there are lots of them here in SoCal.

I have actually looked into that lol i will check it out online. is there any shops there by you in oceanside?

[pale-rider]

I guess a big question that i have failed to ask it what length shock will i need? will this be something i have to measure once i get my bags in? cause i'm not sure how long of lower shock mounts to buy, i have found a ton for about 20-30 bucks but i don't want them tho be to short or way to damn long. i think you guys for all the help so far lowered trucks are all new to me.

[blime81]

I usually go to San Marcos for my buggy and Jeep stuff because ORW, 4 Wheel Parts and VW Paradise are all there. I just leave my wallet...

There is buggy shop on Coast Hwy. B & R buggies past o'side blvd near the tracks. If they don't have it, they can get it and the guy who runs it is pretty cool and gives a military discount.

You could call Orange County Sandcar. They don't do retail but they are cool guys and would point you to someone who does in the OC. http://www.orangecountysandcar.com/

On shock tabs get this kind over the single tabs. Easy install and a cleaner look in the end.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/SBRKT-3.html

Also once you get your bags and start itching to plumb something more than schraders, Marshall's Hardware near Miramar is the place for fittings. Big stuff I get from vendors here but with fittings I like to be able to lay everything out and see it all first.

Anyways best of luck!

[blime81]

Measure. You'll want as much travel as you can reasonably fit. Ideal is the shock is mounted vertical and in the center of it's travel at ride height. In the real world somewhat extended at ride height and as vertical as you can reasonable make it will get it done. This will give you the most down travel so the shock won't hold you up from airing out.

[pale-rider]

ok sounds good do game plan is air bags first and then tackle the rear shocks hopefully i can pick up that kit this weekend.. i have looked at the off road web site you posted before i think that is were i am going to get all my brackets from pretty reasonable on prices from what i can tell.

[pale-rider]

alright so i went and picked up the bags today and got everything laid out the wife is leaving in the AM to go home for a little bit so i will have all the time i need to do what i want after work so im going to drill out the rivets of the old cross member the PO cut apart and then drill the frame im waiting to see if i can get a new rear cross member from a member on here and that will take care of my upper shock mount problem... so hopefully things will start coming together ready to get this beast on the road.