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rs72z · 01-04-2012, 11:28 PM

Has anyone tried this 14 bolt rear disc setup? Any comments?

http://www.barnes4wd.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2155

Mattman2010 · 01-05-2012, 12:45 AM

I have not done the swap yet, but I know your truck is a dually and I have a feeling that those will not work on a dually axle because the inside wheels will hit. Most of the disc brake kits for the 14bolts are for single wheel applications.

rs72z · 01-05-2012, 08:29 AM

I didn't think about that. Guesse i better do some more research.

Mattman2010 · 01-05-2012, 09:29 AM

If it uses a stock 3/4 ton front rotor then I doubt that you could get it to work with the dual wheels.

maskale · 01-05-2012, 09:45 AM

do some more looking around maybe email the sellers

I believe though a spacer is needed to a dually conversion.

madcow75 · 01-05-2012, 10:02 AM

Wanted to do it on dually also. But it cannot be done with dually 16" wheels. But it may be possible with 19" dually wheels for more clearance. Use 3/4 ton front rotor, elderado calipers to keep the ebrakes, or use a driveline ebrake.
Ruffstuff sells the bracket for the conversion (I allready purchased them) but they are not reccomended if you are towing.

maskale · 01-05-2012, 10:06 AM

even with SRW larger wheels are needed, mine are 16.5 and not much clearance. some people grind their calipers.

space wrangler · 01-05-2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskale

even with SRW larger wheels are needed, mine are 16.5 and not much clearance. some people grind their calipers.

would 16" wheels work? ...or are 16.5" a must to run this set up?

maskale · 01-05-2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space wrangler

would 16" wheels work? ...or are 16.5" a must to run this set up?

man I cant say with 100%

and when it comes to DRW i know even less, Im just remembering some of the stuff I ran across while doing my research, I cant speak from experience about 16" or DRW. When ur talking of this close of clearances the type and brand of wheel also come into play. Some are made thicker in areas then others.

Google some stuff and see what u can find from others that have done it.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=940338

madcow75 · 01-05-2012, 12:26 PM

Single wheels will work with caliper grinding.

86454k30 · 01-10-2012, 01:24 AM

www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com has them for dual wheel trucks I beleive.

DirtRocket8x · 01-10-2012, 01:59 AM

I brought mine off eBay and they make them 4 a 16 inch wheel
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gchemist · 01-10-2012, 02:00 AM

Another 14 bolt conversion page to read.
http://www.shakerbuilt.com/14boltDIY.html

*mrhino* · 01-10-2012, 06:32 AM

Just did the conversion over the weekend, all though it was for SRW check out post #50 of my crusader build. if you need anything measured just let me know.

rs72z · 01-10-2012, 08:49 AM

could you run a straight edge across the caliper and measure from the hub where the wheel slides on up the the straight edge? Then i could tell for sure if it will work.
Thanks

madcow75 · 01-10-2012, 11:53 AM

Once again on the crusader build that is a SRW setup not a dually. If someone has a picture of a 16" DRW setup show it. NOT a SRW.

The poster is looking for the DRW setup.

rs72z · 01-10-2012, 01:18 PM

here's a pic of rear brakes and how close they are to the inner wheel now.

Axleman · 01-11-2012, 11:17 PM

These guys might have what you need.

http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...tegory&path=37

SCOTI · 01-11-2012, 11:42 PM

Cool.... The DIY4x group has a dana70 (dually specific) application along w/the 14bolt stuff.

http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...product_id=149

rs72z · 01-12-2012, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axleman

These guys might have what you need.

http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...tegory&path=37

These don't say if they will work with a dually, except for c&c. Unless i missed it?

SCOTI · 01-12-2012, 08:58 AM

Also curious about which of these 2 rear-ends is considered 'stronger'?

hick · 01-11-2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Cool.... The DIY4x group has a dana70 (dually specific) application along w/the 14bolt stuff.

http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...product_id=149

Not to derail this thread... but can you please explain the different to me

I have an 89 CC dually. I was under the impression I have a 14 bolt full floater... Just with dual wheels... It wasn't until I started looking for disc brakes that I became confused...

Axleman · 01-11-2012, 11:56 PM

GM used both the 14 bolt and Dana 70 HD's in their duallies, just depended on year, engine, and GVWR of the truck.

hick · 01-11-2012, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axleman

GM used both the 14 bolt and Dana 70 HD's in their duallies, just depended on year, engine, and GVWR of the truck.

I am told...

14 bolts=14 bolts
10 bolts=Dana 70

Correct?

SCOTI · 01-12-2012, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hick

I am told...

14 bolts=14 bolts
10 bolts=Dana 70

Correct?

I know the Dana70 in my dually actually is stamped & says HD70 or Dana70 (something like that)....

01-04-2012, 11:28 PM	#1
rs72z Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Emory TX Posts: 900	14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Has anyone tried this 14 bolt rear disc setup? Any comments? http://www.barnes4wd.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2155

01-05-2012, 12:45 AM	#2
Mattman2010 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Pittsburg, KS Posts: 953	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes I have not done the swap yet, but I know your truck is a dually and I have a feeling that those will not work on a dually axle because the inside wheels will hit. Most of the disc brake kits for the 14bolts are for single wheel applications. __________________ 1980 K10 - 6.2L Diesel/SM465/NP205 Build Thread 1984 K30 CC Dually - "The Tank" 12V Cummins/Nv4500/Np205/D60/D70HD 4" lift & 37's Build Thread 1960 C-60 Dump Truck Make it road worthy! Thread

01-05-2012, 08:29 AM	#3
rs72z Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Emory TX Posts: 900	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes I didn't think about that. Guesse i better do some more research.

01-05-2012, 09:29 AM	#4
Mattman2010 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Pittsburg, KS Posts: 953	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes If it uses a stock 3/4 ton front rotor then I doubt that you could get it to work with the dual wheels. __________________ 1980 K10 - 6.2L Diesel/SM465/NP205 Build Thread 1984 K30 CC Dually - "The Tank" 12V Cummins/Nv4500/Np205/D60/D70HD 4" lift & 37's Build Thread 1960 C-60 Dump Truck Make it road worthy! Thread

01-05-2012, 10:02 AM	#6
madcow75 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fort Erie , Ontario Posts: 525	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Wanted to do it on dually also. But it cannot be done with dually 16" wheels. But it may be possible with 19" dually wheels for more clearance. Use 3/4 ton front rotor, elderado calipers to keep the ebrakes, or use a driveline ebrake. Ruffstuff sells the bracket for the conversion (I allready purchased them) but they are not reccomended if you are towing.

01-05-2012, 09:45 AM	#5
maskale Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 159	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes do some more looking around maybe email the sellers I believe though a spacer is needed to a dually conversion.

01-05-2012, 10:06 AM	#7
maskale Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 159	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes even with SRW larger wheels are needed, mine are 16.5 and not much clearance. some people grind their calipers.

01-05-2012, 12:26 PM	#10
madcow75 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fort Erie , Ontario Posts: 525	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Single wheels will work with caliper grinding.

01-10-2012, 01:24 AM	#11
86454k30 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 596	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com has them for dual wheel trucks I beleive.

01-10-2012, 01:59 AM	#12
DirtRocket8x Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Union valley texas Posts: 75	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes I brought mine off eBay and they make them 4 a 16 inch wheel Posted via Mobile Device

01-10-2012, 02:00 AM	#13
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Another 14 bolt conversion page to read. http://www.shakerbuilt.com/14boltDIY.html __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

01-10-2012, 06:32 AM	#14
mrhino Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,223	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Just did the conversion over the weekend, all though it was for SRW check out post #50 of my crusader build. if you need anything measured just let me know.

01-10-2012, 08:49 AM	#15
rs72z Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Emory TX Posts: 900	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes could you run a straight edge across the caliper and measure from the hub where the wheel slides on up the the straight edge? Then i could tell for sure if it will work. Thanks

01-10-2012, 11:53 AM	#16
madcow75 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fort Erie , Ontario Posts: 525	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Once again on the crusader build that is a SRW setup not a dually. If someone has a picture of a 16" DRW setup show it. NOT a SRW. The poster is looking for the DRW setup.

01-10-2012, 01:18 PM	#17
rs72z Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Emory TX Posts: 900	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes here's a pic of rear brakes and how close they are to the inner wheel now. Attached Images



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01-11-2012, 11:17 PM	#18
Axleman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Capac, MI Posts: 10	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes These guys might have what you need. http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...tegory&path=37

01-11-2012, 11:42 PM	#19
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Cool.... The DIY4x group has a dana70 (dually specific) application along w/the 14bolt stuff. http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?rout...product_id=149 __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

01-12-2012, 08:58 AM	#21
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes Also curious about which of these 2 rear-ends is considered 'stronger'? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

01-11-2012, 11:56 PM	#23
Axleman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Capac, MI Posts: 10	Re: 14 bolt ff rear disc brakes GM used both the 14 bolt and Dana 70 HD's in their duallies, just depended on year, engine, and GVWR of the truck.

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