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Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
I ran across this truck on CL a while ago.
It was advertised as a 1988. Is it a cab/chassis with a regular bed? Or is it dual wheels on a regular truck? This is the only pic, I have never seen it in person. ![]() I have a 1984 4wd regular cab dually cab and chassis with a commercial flatbed on it. I don't like the flatbed, it is too big and wide and I'd like to shorten the frame and put an 8' bed on it. Tom |
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
Homemade, or a mismatch of parts. The factory dually pickup will have the large add on fenders on it.
Keep in mind the dually pickups have a wider rear track. The cab chassis dual rear axle would be tucked closer inside the box side. K
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
Agreed. Could have been a SRW (single rear wheel) 1-ton that had a cab & chassis (tow truck/flatbed) rear housing swap.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
thats a cab a chassis truck with a bed stuck on it
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
How can you confirm this?
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
I will have to measure the spring hangers for sure,but my 86 K25 was a converted dually when I got it.All the PO did was put longer studs on & he made it into a dually & the tires didn't hit the frame..
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
My point was its just as possible it was a srw truck that had a rear axle swap..
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
hit the nail on the head, i have seen this many times
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ble/index.html
SRW (single rear wheel truck) 67.5" DRW (dual rear wheel truck) 72" C&C (cab and chasis truck) 63.5"
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
Just went out to shop & measured my 86,the spring hangers on same width as my other 3/4ton trucks.The 86 was a converted dually when I got it & the tires didn't come close to the frame.It has a deck on it,so tubs are not an issue.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
I can't find the thread right now,but isn't a cab & chassis 4" longer than a regular truck? Cab/box combo? I'm with SCOTI on this one,started as a CrewcabSRW that had a dually rear put under it.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
Single Cab, Cab and Chassis would be longer than a pickup dually (135.5 vs 131.5) but a 4 door cab and chassis and a 4 door pickup (with or without box) have the same wheelbase (164.5).
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
I think SCOTI is talking rearend width,... not chassis wheelbase.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
That's what I was thinking about,single cab & chassis..
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
I know it was an answer to Rubble
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
You can't bolt dually wheels onto a regular SRW axle, so it's width would not matter anyway.
Actual axle housing length is not really the issue, it is from one wheel mounting surface to the other that matters.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
That's the way this 86 was when I got it,looks like the PO put longer studs in,then bolted dually wheels to it.I don't have any pictures because I singled it out.Duals don't work very good in mud or snow.Its a14 bolt full floater under a 3/4 ton truck.I just changed to shorter studs & bolted some wagon wheels on.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
srw axle with duals would hit frame the frame isnt as wide on cc in the back
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
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There is no way they would hit the frame first
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
Exactly. Seems more than 1 guy has swapped a C&C axle under a dually as an alternative to widening the dually fenders when doing the 10-lug big wheel swap.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
the leafs are no wider than the frame idk what you mean im saying the inside tire is gonna rub metal if you try it on a regular frame width truck. even without a bed.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
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You kept saying the tire would hit the frame.
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Re: Is this dually Factory or "homemade"?
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So just to reiterate.... All one tons (DRW, SRW, and C&C) have the same spring spacing while all 1/2 and 3/4 tons have wider spring spacing. You can not bolt a one ton rear axle into a 1/2 or 3/4 ton or vice-versa. You would need to either change spring hangers or relocate the spring perches on the axle tubes. And I'm about 95% positive that the C&C frames are the same width as all other trucks, they are just longer from the back of the cab to the rear axle.
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