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**First c10** · 03-18-2014, 11:53 AM

Hello all. I was posting the below from my phone and wasn't realizing it was the lsx classifieds. The question was reading oil pressure from the canbus through DD BIM-01 module not actually able to read it. So the conversation went towards adding the DD sender that came with the gauges. Does anyone have a comment regarding what you did or tried and if it worked or not?

The link to the classified ad.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=616431&page=3

**First c10** · 03-18-2014, 11:55 AM

This picture is with the original sender removed.

Crash_OK · 03-18-2014, 08:30 PM

Mine is setup with the sender separate from the canbus. It works fine that way.

kevmac · 03-18-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_ok

mine is setup with the sender separate from the canbus. It works fine that way.

did you use the unit that came with the vhx gauges? I used it with my 67 camaro but couldnt get the tach to work and wanted to try a combo on the truck

Crash_OK · 03-18-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kevmac

did you use the unit that came with the vhx gauges? I used it with my 67 camaro but couldnt get the tach to work and wanted to try a combo on the truck

Yes.. I used the oil sender and wiring that came with the VHX gauges. All the other functions.. tach, speed, water temp, trans temp, etc are being feed from the CANBUS.

**truckdude239** · 03-18-2014, 10:22 PM

I meAn my stock sensor isnt used you can buy auto meter adapter 2277 m12x1.5 to 1/8

**First c10** · 03-19-2014, 12:52 AM

DD said they are not able to read oil pressure from canbus so that is why I had to plumb and wire in the DD sender.

'68 Newtricks · 03-10-2015, 01:00 AM

Going to bump this. Hopefully you guys can put a worry of mine to rest.

I went with the DD gauges and interface as well. I also read that it doesn't read oil pressure. So before I installed my '05 5.3, I pulled the stock sender out and replaced it with DD's sending unit.

Maybe I've already answered my own question, lets see.
I'm worried about the computer seeing zero oil pressure and not allowing it to run. Even during start up, there is some oil pressure. Some motors wont allow start up unless 3 psi is witnessed.

Since the DD's OBD2 interface can't see oil pressure, does this mean the computer doesn't either? Will I have an issue leaving my oil pressure sending unit plug disconnected and hanging off the back of the intake, thus not sending that info to the ECM?

Thanks all.

kevmac · 03-10-2015, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '68 Newtricks

Going to bump this. Hopefully you guys can put a worry of mine to rest.

I went with the DD gauges and interface as well. I also read that it doesn't read oil pressure. So before I installed my '05 5.3, I pulled the stock sender out and replaced it with DD's sending unit.

Maybe I've already answered my own question, lets see.
I'm worried about the computer seeing zero oil pressure and not allowing it to run. Even during start up, there is some oil pressure. Some motors wont allow start up unless 3 psi is witnessed.

Since the DD's OBD2 interface can't see oil pressure, does this mean the computer doesn't either? Will I have an issue leaving my oil pressure sending unit plug disconnected and hanging off the back of the intake, thus not sending that info to the ECM?

Thanks all.

I replaced the stock withDD behind the manifold. No issues

**dayj1** · 03-10-2015, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '68 Newtricks

Will I have an issue leaving my oil pressure sending unit plug disconnected and hanging off the back of the intake, thus not sending that info to the ECM?

That won't be a problem at all. The ECM does not use the oil pressure data.

**First c10** · 03-10-2015, 01:22 AM

I put a tee in and used the Vhx sender for the gauges and kept the stock LS on for the computer. No problems.

**First c10** · 03-10-2015, 01:33 AM

Dayj1
So I didn't have to put the tee? If the ECM doesn't use it then what is it used for? Is it something the BCM read and displayed?

ls1nova71 · 03-10-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by First c10

So I didn't have to put the tee? If the ECM doesn't use it then what is it used for? Is it something the BCM read and displayed?

Some of the newer engines use it for DOD/AFM purposes. But GenIIIs do not need the oil sender.

H20cooled · 03-10-2015, 08:50 AM

My new engine harness does not even have a connection for the oil pressure.

BR3W CITY · 03-10-2015, 02:37 PM

The genIII sender is for an idiot lite only, it doesn't read "how much"....only "if" there is oil.
The ecm does get an input from it, but removing said input does...nothing.

I beleive the genIV's do actually get a value from the sensor, as when you run a scangauge-type device on the GenIV's you can get a PID for oil pressure.

'68 Newtricks · 03-10-2015, 03:06 PM

Yeah, I think I remember DD saying something about 2008+ Oil pressure working with their interface

solidaxel · 03-11-2015, 02:45 PM

So can I add the D D sender to the bypass housing next to the oil filter, and leave the stock sender and wiring in place on a 5.3 2003

Mayfield · 03-12-2015, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by solidaxel

So can I add the D D sender to the bypass housing next to the oil filter, and leave the stock sender and wiring in place on a 5.3 2003

Yes, this is exactly what I did.

**First c10** · 03-11-2015, 03:23 PM

I have a genIV and the DD gauges will not work with the computer oil pressure via CANBUS. I had to install the DD sender to get my guages to read oil pressure that is the pictures above,

**First c10** · 03-12-2015, 11:58 AM

I have a factory oil cooler that attaches to the ports above the oil filter. That is why I put the tee at the top of the valley pan.

mattcrp1 · 03-12-2015, 03:46 PM

So just to clarify, my 2002 system 4.8l does not use the oil pressure signal from the sender at all. I could just take it out, tuck the connector back and install a mechanical hard line to my stock '76 gauge?

ls1nova71 · 03-12-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mattcrp1

So just to clarify, my 2002 system 4.8l does not use the oil pressure signal from the sender at all. I could just take it out, tuck the connector back and install a mechanical hard line to my stock '76 gauge?

Yes, that would be correct.

mattcrp1 · 03-13-2015, 12:53 PM

Thanks guy's. Is the sender a 12mmx1.5 as a previous poster stated?

03-18-2014, 11:53 AM	#1
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Hello all. I was posting the below from my phone and wasn't realizing it was the lsx classifieds. The question was reading oil pressure from the canbus through DD BIM-01 module not actually able to read it. So the conversation went towards adding the DD sender that came with the gauges. Does anyone have a comment regarding what you did or tried and if it worked or not? The link to the classified ad. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=616431&page=3 Attached Images __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-18-2014, 11:55 AM	#2
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc This picture is with the original sender removed. Attached Images __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-18-2014, 08:30 PM	#3
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Mine is setup with the sender separate from the canbus. It works fine that way. __________________ Mark ----------------------- Crash's 69 4x4 SWB Crash's Roof over Lake Home Crash's 1988 Land Cruiser Build

03-18-2014, 10:22 PM	#6
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc I meAn my stock sensor isnt used you can buy auto meter adapter 2277 m12x1.5 to 1/8 __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

03-19-2014, 12:52 AM	#7
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc DD said they are not able to read oil pressure from canbus so that is why I had to plumb and wire in the DD sender. __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-10-2015, 01:00 AM	#8
'68 Newtricks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles area :( Posts: 499	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Going to bump this. Hopefully you guys can put a worry of mine to rest. I went with the DD gauges and interface as well. I also read that it doesn't read oil pressure. So before I installed my '05 5.3, I pulled the stock sender out and replaced it with DD's sending unit. Maybe I've already answered my own question, lets see. I'm worried about the computer seeing zero oil pressure and not allowing it to run. Even during start up, there is some oil pressure. Some motors wont allow start up unless 3 psi is witnessed. Since the DD's OBD2 interface can't see oil pressure, does this mean the computer doesn't either? Will I have an issue leaving my oil pressure sending unit plug disconnected and hanging off the back of the intake, thus not sending that info to the ECM? Thanks all. __________________ '68 C10 SWB '85 K30 Blazer

03-10-2015, 01:22 AM	#11
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc I put a tee in and used the Vhx sender for the gauges and kept the stock LS on for the computer. No problems. __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-10-2015, 01:33 AM	#12
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Dayj1 So I didn't have to put the tee? If the ECM doesn't use it then what is it used for? Is it something the BCM read and displayed? __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-10-2015, 08:50 AM	#14
H20cooled Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Milwaukie, OR Posts: 223	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc My new engine harness does not even have a connection for the oil pressure.

03-10-2015, 02:37 PM	#15
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc The genIII sender is for an idiot lite only, it doesn't read "how much"....only "if" there is oil. The ecm does get an input from it, but removing said input does...nothing. I beleive the genIV's do actually get a value from the sensor, as when you run a scangauge-type device on the GenIV's you can get a PID for oil pressure. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

03-10-2015, 03:06 PM	#16
'68 Newtricks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles area :( Posts: 499	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Yeah, I think I remember DD saying something about 2008+ Oil pressure working with their interface __________________ '68 C10 SWB '85 K30 Blazer

03-11-2015, 02:45 PM	#17
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc So can I add the D D sender to the bypass housing next to the oil filter, and leave the stock sender and wiring in place on a 5.3 2003 __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

03-11-2015, 03:23 PM	#19
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc I have a genIV and the DD gauges will not work with the computer oil pressure via CANBUS. I had to install the DD sender to get my guages to read oil pressure that is the pictures above, __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-12-2015, 11:58 AM	#20
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc I have a factory oil cooler that attaches to the ports above the oil filter. That is why I put the tee at the top of the valley pan. __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

03-12-2015, 03:46 PM	#21
mattcrp1 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 555	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc So just to clarify, my 2002 system 4.8l does not use the oil pressure signal from the sender at all. I could just take it out, tuck the connector back and install a mechanical hard line to my stock '76 gauge? __________________ My Chevy habit is paid for by Ford diesels... Here is my SLOW LS install: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post6456355 Caliper Rebuild: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=613748 Upper Control Arm Bushings: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=616974 IG mattcrp1



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03-13-2015, 12:53 PM	#23
mattcrp1 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 555	Re: Oil pressure sender with vhx gauges etc Thanks guy's. Is the sender a 12mmx1.5 as a previous poster stated? __________________ My Chevy habit is paid for by Ford diesels... Here is my SLOW LS install: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post6456355 Caliper Rebuild: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=613748 Upper Control Arm Bushings: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=616974 IG mattcrp1

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