Short Bed Vin # Confirmation

[silver7]

Anyone know how I can verify if a truck I am in interested in buying is a factory short bed and not a shortened long bed? I did not see any threads about this or how to decode a vin and determine this. Thanks in advance for any help.

[Mapearso]

does the SPID in the glove box not have the wheelbase? 115 is a shortbed

[silver7]

I'll look when I see it this weekend. Thanks.

[jocko]

Model number on the SPID also tells you -
ex: CE10734
in the "07" place,
07=swb/115" (07 is really a reference to the measurement of cowl to axle distance: 42")
09=lwb/127"
10=lwb w/ext - 133" (longhorn)

If no SPID, look for original grease pencil marks on passenger side of cowl in engine compartment - above the a/c-heater box, the model # was often scribbled there.

If/when you look in person, check the frame for fish plates where it may have been cut. Some folks do it right, some do it in a shabby way.
Many ways to convert long to short to be aware of:
- some cut the frame and add a swb bed
- some cut the frame AND cut the long box down
- some swap what was originally a lwb truck cab onto an original swb frame

several reasons why you may see a 127" wb (lwb) indication on the SPID of a "now" swb truck. As long as you're aware what to look for and how the changes can be made, you'll be an informed buyer. Nothing wrong with doing the shortening, unless you want the truck to be an original shortie. In that case, it's gotta have a 115" wb and CE10734 on the SPID. (emphasis on the "07" part - the CE could be KE for a 4x4 and the 34 could be an 04 is a stepside). CE10734 is a swb fleetside 2wd truck, for example. KE10704 is a swb 4x4 stepside, etc.)

[silver7]

Thanks. Hopefully the SPID is present when I go to see it.

1970 K10 vin # he gave me: KS140T108549

[Vintage Windmills]

The VIN doesn't tell us what it is, you need the model number then go with Jocko's info.

All we can tell from your vin:
1970
Chevrolet
1/2 ton
4x4
6 cylinder
Pickup
Tarrytown build

Vin decoders here. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=570059

[silver7]

Thanks guys. I'll report back what I find.

[davepl]

You should take a photo of the SPID. They are easily faked badly, but rarely faked well (though the can be faked perfectly, so invest accordingly).

[Mike's money pit]

Will the weights listed on the metal vin plate on the door jamb provide any info on SWB vs. LWB?

[jocko]

not really. gvwr ranges can provide a hint as to whether it is a 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton. The gvwr should correspond with the allowable gvwrs that the 3rd digit of the VIN (4th digit in 72) - i.e. 1=1/2 ton, 2=3/4 ton, 3=1 ton.

For instance, in shawn's case, a 70 k10, the gvwr should either be 5200 or 5600.

The only reason I say "not really" rather than "never" above is because you CAN kinda do some process of elimination.. I don't have all the stats handy, but, for instance on the extreme end... 7500 gvwr wasn't available on a swb truck, so if your plate had that, you'd suspect a heavy truck cab swap onto a swb chassis or a frame shortening. At that point, start counting lugs, etc to see if hvy duty 8 lug or 1/2 ton 6 lug (in 70)

[silver7]

He sent it to me today.

[silver7]

Thanks for the help guys. It looks like it a SWB, what I was hoping for.

[67c10rustbuket]

The spid is legit. But just incase you should pass on this one and give me his phone number

[71swb4x4]

A 4x4, cool! Interesting options as a short bed. That was built as a working truck. 292, heavy springs, manual throttle, west coast junior mirrors, cargo lamp, and 4-speed. That's a neat truck.

[Vintage Windmills]

Interesting truck for sure!

[silver7]

Any way to tell if it is wood or steel bed?

[67swb72klb]

Originally Posted by silver7

Any way to tell if it is wood or steel bed?

if it was wood it would be on the spid as a pick up box floor i believe

[jocko]

correct. if not listed, it's a factory steel bed originally.

[Nchristi]

Wrong post