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09-01-2015, 03:55 PM | #1 |
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crossover steering
Who is running it and who's parts? I have it on the 83 I bought, but I am not sure about the amount of threads showing or angles of the ends.
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1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm |
09-01-2015, 10:02 PM | #2 |
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Re: crossover steering
Ord crossover user. 85 blazer with a dana 60. Post pics of your questionable spots.
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09-01-2015, 10:24 PM | #3 |
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Re: crossover steering
I used O.R.D. parts for my Dana 60 high steer with cross over. check out my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...596036&page=15
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09-02-2015, 01:12 AM | #4 |
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Re: crossover steering
I got parts to do my crossover and high steer from partsmike.com because it was cheaper that way and I could make it the way I wanted it. I had them machine my right side knuckle and then I made my linkages. I think I used a jeep wagoneer (SJ?) pitman arm, but can't remember exactly..
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09-02-2015, 12:00 PM | #5 |
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Re: crossover steering
Thanks for the replies. I am up Philly for work but will be home Friday and I will post some pics.
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1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm |
09-02-2015, 10:30 PM | #6 |
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Re: crossover steering
Used ORD on my 91 crew. They cut it to length (mine was 8" lift) and I also used the huge tie rod bar n links. Best lifted truck I've ever driven.
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09-02-2015, 11:28 PM | #7 |
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Re: crossover steering
mine is ORD stuff as well. d60 arm, TREs, and tube as well as the crossover pitman. its pretty solid stuff. i always recommend a panhard bar to go with crossover to fully realize its beauty.
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09-03-2015, 11:36 PM | #8 |
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Re: crossover steering
interesting, Ryan, would you mind snapping a pic of your set up please.
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09-03-2015, 12:58 AM | #9 |
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Re: crossover steering
Ryan
Do recommend the panhard bar with leaf springs D 60 too. |
09-03-2015, 02:50 AM | #10 |
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Re: crossover steering
not to thread-jack but wouldn't the panhard bar fight the leaf springs as it tries to swing in an arc?
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09-03-2015, 07:33 AM | #11 |
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Re: crossover steering
yessir. the panhard keeps the axle moving in the same arc as the steering when it is compressing or drooping and that keeps the steering from bump steering
the panhard controls the axle position side to side as the axle moves up and down. the leaf springs arc front to back as they compress so the two motions are not inhibited by one another. the leaves tend to deflect side to side as steering pressure is applied and can make the front feel a little wobbly. it also allows for some bump steer. the panhard makes the leaves more stable and fixes the axle motion so it matches the arc of the steering so bump steer and deflection are eliminated. the deflection is more notable the taller the springs. |
09-03-2015, 07:40 AM | #12 |
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Re: crossover steering
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09-03-2015, 09:51 AM | #13 |
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Re: crossover steering
Yeah i would run one http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/cgi...=CHEVY-APB-002
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09-03-2015, 09:28 PM | #14 |
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Re: crossover steering
$350 is a lot for the kit. I will buy the rod, ball end and make my brackets.
Thanks for the info Ryan I will install the panhard rod with the leaf springs. That bump steer sucks on the freeway. |
09-04-2015, 12:13 AM | #15 |
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Re: crossover steering
Here it is. It's not a great representation of the standard Chevy truck. I have a four link and air bags sitting on a Ford d60. It's a bit of hot mess. The concept is basically the same for a leaf spring axle, but you are usually limited in the length you can make the panhard without hitting everything. ideal is equal length panhard and tie rod and matched angle. The angle is the more crucial but the closer to equal length you get the panhard to the tie rod the better it will be. |
09-04-2015, 07:49 AM | #16 |
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Re: crossover steering
WOW! That is nice. I bet it drives fantastic.
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09-04-2015, 09:42 PM | #17 |
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Re: crossover steering
Here's a shot of the front end, looks like GM ends to me. I will get another shot tomorrow.
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1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm |
09-05-2015, 11:53 AM | #18 |
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Re: crossover steering
I bought ruffstuff isterts and made all my own. uses dodge 1ton tie rod ends from the 80's, and I used heims for the track bar. drives great.
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Re: crossover steering
pics
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09-05-2015, 11:57 PM | #20 |
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You basically made the ord kit with ruffstuff parts. Ord has the tie rod ends with no plastic or nylon wear insert in them. They are all metal with a preload spring to always keep the joint tight. Much heavier duty than any oem joint.
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09-06-2015, 09:04 PM | #21 |
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Re: crossover steering
I will be looking into the panhard bar too. Thanks!
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1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm |
09-06-2015, 09:10 PM | #22 |
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Re: crossover steering
Those are stock chevy ends I have, correct?
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1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm |
09-07-2015, 08:24 AM | #23 |
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Re: crossover steering
I guess this would require a 2WD steering box? And my sway bar would have to go? Would this pan-hard bar help with Death Wobble too?
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09-07-2015, 11:22 AM | #24 |
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Re: crossover steering
Correct, your using the stock Chevy short and long drag link ends.
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09-07-2015, 03:18 PM | #25 |
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I had mine setup with a swaybar, but then I took it off and don't notice a difference. it doesn't lean even without it on there. and I rally this truck thru the back roads quite a bit!
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