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Old 10-24-2003, 04:16 PM   #1
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Air Suspension Components?????

I am trying to learn what I need to do air bags on my 72.

I know that I am going to get

Firestone 2600 on all 4 corners
Either (2) 3 gallon tanks or (1) 6 gallon tank
Was told 3/8 fittings
York Engine Compressor
Digital air guage
Brackets

Brackets - would like to make my own, need drawings of them with some sizes specs.



Now I dont know what else I need

Can someone please tell me what I would need to get it all to work together.
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Old 10-24-2003, 05:52 PM   #2
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Either (2) 3 gallon tanks or (1) 6 gallon tank
I'm no expert, but I do have some suggestions. Since you are considering two tanks, I would go with two 5 gallon tanks.

I suggest this, because I think anything less and you won't have enough volume to raise your truck more than once without your system having to cycle.

York Engine Compressor
The York compressor was used as a were factory a/c compressor on cars for years. It's an excellent unit, but not very pretty under the hood.
They will pump more pressure in your tanks faster than just about any 12 volt compressor will. The only down side I know of is the engine has to be running for them to work.

3/8 fittings
3/8" fittings (and line) are fine if you just want your system to flow well, and they are reasonable in price. If you want to clown a little, then a 1/2" system will move air much faster.

Digital air guage
You can use two dual needle analog gauges just as well. The digital gauge is nice because they are easy to read. They also allow you to fine tune your air pressure with a bit more accuracy.


You are going to need 2 or 4 switches, wiring harness, or wire to make one. You will need a bunch of line clamps to secure the air line, and some rubber grommets to put in holes where the air line passes through metal.

I'm sure I have left a couple of things out, but this will get you started. Go to Air Ride Technology and look at their kits. Even if you don't buy anything from them, you will learn a lot looking at the site....
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Old 10-24-2003, 06:19 PM   #3
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all good points.

I would do independent fronts and T the back as a minimum to reduce body roll. If the fronts are T'd together, the air will flow from one bag to the other during cornering, increasing the roll of the body.

The digital guages are nice, but I dont see the point of pinpoint accuracy. If you run 1/2" lines, it is soo quick that a quick push of the button will get you at a height you dont really have control over. (unless you run a two port bag with the other port connected to a smaller solenoid to make it go down slower).

Brackets: You dont need brackets for the rear. Just open up the original hole in the frame for the coil spring to make room for the port, then drill 2 mounting holes in the frame next to the hole. For the fronts, you can fab your own or see NSANE68 who sells the brackets itself.

I agree with more air reserve the better.
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:58 PM   #4
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York Engine Compressor
The York compressor was used as a were factory a/c compressor on cars for years. It's an excellent unit, but not very pretty under the hood.
They will pump more pressure in your tanks faster than just about any 12 volt compressor will. The only down side I know of is the engine has to be running for them to work.
I disagree about them not being pretty..being that they are all aluminum they can be polished just like any other aluminum piece....as a matter of fact i'm amazed that more people aren't polishing them.
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Old 10-25-2003, 07:25 PM   #5
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Thanks for your suggestions. I am not sure how soon I am going to do this, but looking for all the information that I can so I can do it myself.

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Old 10-26-2003, 12:46 AM   #6
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I disagree about them not being pretty..being that they are all aluminum they can be polished just like any other aluminum piece....as a matter of fact i'm amazed that more people aren't polishing them.
Well you can polish a turd, but in the end all you get is a shiny turd.:p

It's just my opinion, but the York compressor is a clunky looking box. Paint it, polish it, what ever you want, but it still looks like a clunky box to me.
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Old 10-26-2003, 12:54 AM   #7
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Well you can polish a turd, but in the end all you get is a shiny turd.:p

It's just my opinion, but the York compressor is a clunky looking box. Paint it, polish it, what ever you want, but it still looks like a clunky box to me.
True...true...but for output and reliability..it is second to none.
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Old 10-26-2003, 02:48 PM   #8
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York

Anyone know what model number for the York? also if anyone knows where to get one other than the Treasure yard.
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Old 10-26-2003, 02:50 PM   #9
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for the most bang for the buck you should look for the 210L or 210R.

I got mine off of a freightliner semi.

www.onboardair.com sells new units.
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Old 10-26-2003, 07:32 PM   #10
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If you want to get one from a bone yard, you can find them in old VOLVO'S and JEEP WANGONEERS. Both around the 70's
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Old 10-27-2003, 12:49 AM   #11
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I got mine off a mid to late 70's Mustang and it ended up being the high output 210 model. I just saw 2 of them today at the salvage yard on 70's Ford trucks.

Here is a link with some good info on the Yorks. It tells how to identify which model it is by looking at the shape of the end of the output shaft.

http://www.coloradok5.com/york.shtml
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:17 AM   #12
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If you want to get one from a bone yard, you can find them in old VOLVO'S and JEEP WANGONEERS. Both around the 70's
The Volvo’s had them up through the late 80’s. My daily driver ’86 240DL has a York 210.
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Old 10-27-2003, 04:06 PM   #13
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wanna part with it??
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wanna part with it??
Can't do it. It's my daily driver but the tranny's going out and once it does it's going to the boneyard and I'm keeping the 210.
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Old 10-28-2003, 07:31 AM   #15
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check out www.onboardair.com this is where i got all the stuff for my jeep wrangler. i dont know about 'bags but it will air up one 33x12.50x15 tire from flat to 30psi in 30 seconds. it will even set the bead. i am running a 3gal tank
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Old 10-29-2003, 12:09 AM   #16
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I am very curious about this too. I am thinking of bagging my truck, but am new to airbags. Does anyone sell a complete kit specifically for our trucks that is reasonably priced?
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Old 10-29-2003, 12:40 AM   #17
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cheaper if you piece it together. check with NSANE 68 or ...damn, i cant remember his handle. it will come
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:20 PM   #18
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im a little confused about this air ride set up as well. this tri-4 link, is this neccessary for a 67-72? also, 2.5 drop spindles up front, the rear needs the c-notch. then what? whats the range of height were talking at that point? i dont want it in the weeds really, not while driving at least. maybe 4/6 drop max? hard to say as theres not alot of pics of stepsides out there. better off going with static drop?
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I am also new to this. How much does it cost for all of the parts and how hard is it to do.
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