Help me! Please

[loujizzel]

Okay I have a 73 C10 square body short bed when I purchased it it was already lowered it has Western chassis 2.5 inch drop spindles up front and the flip kit in the rear and it's down about maybe 6 or 7 inches in the rear the front was slightly higher than the rear when I looked at the springs they had spring spacers in the springs one of them or two of them were heated really poor wor.... so what I did was I ordered a set of 3 inch drop Springs and a brand new set of nitro drop shocks for the front I had the upper and lower control arm poly bushed with energy suspension bushings I just had it all installed and now the front is sitting even higher than it was before granted the springs that it had were warned and not stiff the new front Springs are definitely stiff and I know they need to settle but it is sitting way too high what could be the problem? If my math is right with a 3 inch drop spring and a 2.5 drop spindle I should be down five and a half inches I'm nowhere near that..... any ideas why I'm not low upfront the only thing I could think of is the bushings are super tight since they're polyurethane or they put the spring on upside down I have no idea I'm just grasping for straws I want to and I guess the only other alternative is to actually cut the spring not what I want to do

[loujizzel]

Here it is....urgh not the stance im thought it would be

[SCOTI]

Were the a-arm bushings tightened w/the suspension extended or w/the trucks full weight on the tires?

[loujizzel]

The upper and lower arms were removed

[loujizzel]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Were the a-arm bushings tightened w/the suspension extended or w/the trucks full weight on the tires?

Extended and completely off the truck

[sweetk30]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Were the a-arm bushings tightened w/the suspension extended or w/the trucks full weight on the tires?

re read his info . poly bushed . this would not matter . now if it was still rubber that is a good point you posted.

[loujizzel]

My apologies I stand corrected after doing some research on the stock height of a 73 C10 which is about 33 and 1/2 - 34 inches from the ground to the top of the fender well and now I am at just under 29 inches from the floor to the top of the fender so in fact I am down 5 inches I guess I have to cut the spring in order to get down to about 25 inches I think that's where I want to be

[hewittca]

Originally Posted by loujizzel

My apologies I stand corrected after doing some research on the stock height of a 73 C10 which is about 33 and 1/2 - 34 inches from the ground to the top of the fender well and now I am at just under 29 inches from the floor to the top of the fender so in fact I am down 5 inches I guess I have to cut the spring in order to get down to about 25 inches I think that's where I want to be

Cutting your 3" drop springs to get an additional 4" of drop to get to your 25" mark is a huge drop on a spring. I've seen plenty of trucks dropped on spindles plus 2-3" drop springs that sit nice with no wheel gap. I would still suspect something isn't quite right with yours because it looks high.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by sweetk30

re read his info . poly bushed . this would not matter . now if it was still rubber that is a good point you posted.

It still matters as poly bushings can also bind. Bushings should be final tightened w/full weight on the suspension. The exception might be Delrin or spherical rod type set-ups.

[loujizzel]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

It still matters as poly bushings can also bind. Bushings should be final tightened w/full weight on the suspension. The exception might be Delrin or spherical rod type set-ups.

You maybe possibly correct because they tighten it while the vehicle was in the air not while it was on the ground.... so are you saying I may be able to loosen the upper and lower control arm while the vehicles on the ground and retighten

[bbbc10]

what size front tire you running

[loujizzel]

Originally Posted by bbbc10

what size front tire you running

There 15 all the way around but i so want 20s in the future

[bbbc10]

I know they are 15s but what is the tire size

[loujizzel]

Originally Posted by bbbc10

I know they are 15s but what is the tire size

Oh 60 series. ... i research and it looks like I have to loosen the A-Arms lower the truck down and retighten them with the weight of the vehicle if that doesn't work I don't know what will

[lolife99]

Do you have a picture of the drop spindle?
I just went through this with another guy and he actually had stock height spindles not the drop spindles the previous owner told him that were under the truck.

[loujizzel]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Do you have a picture of the drop spindle?
I just went through this with another guy and he actually had stock height spindles not the drop spindles the previous owner told him that were under the truck.

That might be a possibility I don't know how to tell if it's a drop spindle all I know is when I was under the truck the spindle said Western chassis on it

[loujizzel]

Okay here is the truck before the bushings and new Springs notice how low it is when I took the springs off and I put the new 3 inch drop Springs next to them the new drop Springs were about an inch shorter than the Springs you're looking at the Springs you're looking at were cut and heated and were a mess to the point they needed spring spacers to bring it back up notice one spring has one spring spacer the other spring has two

[loujizzel]

Now it looks like this..... I asked the mobile mechanic if he could come back and loosen the top and bottom a arms and drop it to see if that will release some of the tension that's keeping it up he told me it's not the A-Arms it's the spring but I have a shorter spring than the original so what gives here

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by loujizzel

Now it looks like this..... I asked the mobile mechanic if he could come back and loosen the top and bottom a arms and drop it to see if that will release some of the tension that's keeping it up he told me it's not the A-Arms it's the spring but I have a shorter spring than the original so what gives here

You indicated earlier that the a-arm bushings were tightened while extended. If so, they still need to be tightened to spec w/full weight on the vehicle.

[Tervill]

You might want to make sure the springs are seated properly in the spring pockets. 3" drop springs can become loose and sloppy when your truck is jacked up and then not properly seated when jacked back down.