5.3 to 91 gmc 5 spd - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Marty68 · 12-08-2017, 11:48 AM

i have a disassembled 91 gmc. 5.3 5 spd. what basics do I need to put a 5.3 in front of it? clutch wise? will truck pan clear.
swap what in tank fuel pump
re do stock harness
what clutch pieces?
will dirty dingo plates work? stock rad? electric Taurus fans.
do dbc.

asking for a friend
is there a build thread I should read?
thanks guys.
Marty

robertsjm711 · 12-10-2017, 02:57 PM

I assume you meant "91 GMC 5.7 5 speed", and if so... I have this from another similar post on another forum.

I have a 5.3 and am planning on using a Muncie M20, I think the principle is the same. The devil is in the details.

From what I have read you need:

-Fly wheel from a 4.8 or 6.0
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-lfw387

-Clutch kit for your trans (I need a 10 spline, yours may be different)
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-04-049

-Something to do the clutching (I am using hydraulic but I cant imagine mechanical being bad)
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hre-82870

-Pilot bearing for LS
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ADO-CT1082

-Shifter (obvious, I know, but mine was a pain- Thanks Hurst)

-Bell housing: This may be tricky - or not. I am using a 6263756 truck housing. The distance from the older trans are .4"(?) further from the engine that the LS - something about the crank shaft flange. It depends on which crank you have will determine if you need to make adjustments. They make flywheels that are thicker, but they are $$$ (for me, at least).
I also had to use an adapter ring to mate the trans to the housing (http://dennymac.com/muncie-bell-housing-adapter-ring)

- cross member mount: I made one

- VSS for the 5.3 computer
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rpc-250-4153

Resources I use:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...-ls-motor.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCGl5HbrUeE

I am using a Walbro external pump - not sure if the TBI has enough flow/pressure. I bet there are aftermarket kits - or maybe a stock one from a LS vehicle. There are returnless and two line fuel rails on the 5.3s

Radiator should be fine

I made my own motor mounts, but your application may have more options for pre-made

Use harness & computer from the 5.3, I used https://www.facebook.com/pg/LT1-Swap...70183759682543 as a guide. I will also use them for my computer reflash until I can get it to a dyno shop.

Can't say about the pan. There are different ones depending on your 5.3, I have the truck one and it is wicked deep in the rear.

I bet the fan will work, I don't think the 5.3 will make more heat than the 5.3.

There are the gauges that may need researched - not sure if they will line up. And OBD2 port, but those are cheap.

EDIT: To be clear, I am still in the installation & parts finding phase and have not tested all of this.

Ford Assassin · 02-10-2020, 05:20 PM

Did you end up getting the early NV4500 to work?

95 S_Trucker · 02-11-2020, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford Assassin

Did you end up getting the early NV4500 to work?

GM didn’t have the NV4500 until the 92 model year. The OP most likely has a 5LM60, a predecessor to the NV3500.

Marty68 · 02-13-2020, 10:32 AM

this is an old thread. i "disassembled for rust repair" quite some time ago. the box is done and painted. rockers and corners done. just needs paint. i do start it and move it to the other side of the shop a couple times a year. i have installed drop spindles and front and rear leaf hangers. it still has the 4.3.
someday it will be on the road and it may just get the 5.3
right now putting under bed tank in 51 GMC

12-08-2017, 11:48 AM	#1
Marty68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: west coast, Wi Posts: 534	5.3 to 91 gmc 5 spd i have a disassembled 91 gmc. 5.3 5 spd. what basics do I need to put a 5.3 in front of it? clutch wise? will truck pan clear. swap what in tank fuel pump re do stock harness what clutch pieces? will dirty dingo plates work? stock rad? electric Taurus fans. do dbc. asking for a friend is there a build thread I should read? thanks guys. Marty

12-10-2017, 02:57 PM	#2
robertsjm711 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lebanon, Oregon Posts: 241	Re: 5.3 to 91 gmc 5 spd I assume you meant "91 GMC 5.7 5 speed", and if so... I have this from another similar post on another forum. I have a 5.3 and am planning on using a Muncie M20, I think the principle is the same. The devil is in the details. From what I have read you need: -Fly wheel from a 4.8 or 6.0 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-lfw387 -Clutch kit for your trans (I need a 10 spline, yours may be different) https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-04-049 -Something to do the clutching (I am using hydraulic but I cant imagine mechanical being bad) https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hre-82870 -Pilot bearing for LS https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ADO-CT1082 -Shifter (obvious, I know, but mine was a pain- Thanks Hurst) -Bell housing: This may be tricky - or not. I am using a 6263756 truck housing. The distance from the older trans are .4"(?) further from the engine that the LS - something about the crank shaft flange. It depends on which crank you have will determine if you need to make adjustments. They make flywheels that are thicker, but they are $$$ (for me, at least). I also had to use an adapter ring to mate the trans to the housing (http://dennymac.com/muncie-bell-housing-adapter-ring) - cross member mount: I made one - VSS for the 5.3 computer https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rpc-250-4153 Resources I use: https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...-ls-motor.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCGl5HbrUeE I am using a Walbro external pump - not sure if the TBI has enough flow/pressure. I bet there are aftermarket kits - or maybe a stock one from a LS vehicle. There are returnless and two line fuel rails on the 5.3s Radiator should be fine I made my own motor mounts, but your application may have more options for pre-made Use harness & computer from the 5.3, I used https://www.facebook.com/pg/LT1-Swap...70183759682543 as a guide. I will also use them for my computer reflash until I can get it to a dyno shop. Can't say about the pan. There are different ones depending on your 5.3, I have the truck one and it is wicked deep in the rear. I bet the fan will work, I don't think the 5.3 will make more heat than the 5.3. There are the gauges that may need researched - not sure if they will line up. And OBD2 port, but those are cheap. EDIT: To be clear, I am still in the installation & parts finding phase and have not tested all of this. __________________ It was said that if you cut off one hydra head, two more grow back. -Lernaean Hydra Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=743246

02-10-2020, 05:20 PM	#3
Ford Assassin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jackson, Ca. Posts: 674	Re: 5.3 to 91 gmc 5 spd Did you end up getting the early NV4500 to work? __________________ Cable -K5 Blazer 2wd: 6.0 LQ4, 7875 Turbo, Tick Stage II Turbo Cam, Built 4L80e, RevMax Billet 3600, 9.5" 14 Bolt -Chevy 3+3 Crew Cab Dually: Cummins 12v P-Pump Swap, Compound Turbos, A2W Intercooler, NV4500HD, 4wd conversion, Radius Arms, Coilovers, Crossover Steering, etc Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=803608

02-13-2020, 10:32 AM	#5
Marty68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: west coast, Wi Posts: 534	Re: 5.3 to 91 gmc 5 spd this is an old thread. i "disassembled for rust repair" quite some time ago. the box is done and painted. rockers and corners done. just needs paint. i do start it and move it to the other side of the shop a couple times a year. i have installed drop spindles and front and rear leaf hangers. it still has the 4.3. someday it will be on the road and it may just get the 5.3 right now putting under bed tank in 51 GMC Attached Images



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