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arcticman · 02-19-2018, 12:49 AM

Hello everyone,
I'm new to this site. I'm just in the process of purchasing 67 GMC 1/2 ton short bed fleetside 4x4.I've started to research the truck and it is checking out to be a true original unmolested survivor. I've decoded the Vin. # using a decoder built on this site and it matches the trucks current set-up and also matches the build sheet in the seat back coils right down to the original paint, optional v6, and the wood bed. I was trying to research production #s and the site I came across said 1046 units built in 1967. My question is this;
1) is that #a combined total of both Chevy and GMC trucks built.
2) if its a combination of both does anybody know the breakdown of that number how many are Chevrolet versus GMC Trucks.
3)The truck is a manual 4 speed with locking front hubs that look to be original Is their anywhere I could find pictures of original locking 1/2 ton hubs?
4) Is their a VIN # stamped in the frame if so where would it be located?
Thanks for any help you can provide.

saxart · 02-19-2018, 01:17 AM

Did you say your truck has a V6 in it? I don't believe they ever produced this truck with that engine configuration. Can you post a pic of the SPID label from inside the glovebox door? That will truly tell us how your truck came from the factory.

arcticman · 02-19-2018, 01:29 AM

I don't have a pick of that label. I did attach vin # and the second digit is M=v6 the motor. It is a 305 V6 oil bath air cleaner GMC valve covers.
Thanks

**Bob B.** · 02-19-2018, 02:25 AM

1967 GMC's often didn't have a SPID label, but if the VIN matches the build sheet that's all you need. 'KM' in the VIN means V-6 4X4, no question. If there is a VIN stamped on the frame it would likely be on the top of the driver's side rail just ahead of or under the cab. I think that production figure you have would be for GMC's only, GMC and Chevy were separate divisions and there wouldn't be any reason to combine production totals.

For GMC V-6 information, look here:

www.6066gmcclub.com

Sounds like a great truck, good luck with it!

**jocko** · 02-19-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob B.

1967 GMC's often didn't have a SPID label

Bob, can you elaborate on often didn’t have a SPID? I’ve never heard that - didn’t often, as in, sometimes they did and sometimes they didn’t? I assumed, maybe incorrectly, that GMC SPIDs started in 66 like chevs, and once started, they always would have had them. Interested to hear the difference - I am honestly in the dark on some GMC details, always good to learn a little more. Thanks.

**special-K** · 02-19-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jocko

Bob, can you elaborate on often didn’t have a SPID? I’ve never heard that - didn’t often, as in, sometimes they did and sometimes they didn’t? I assumed, maybe incorrectly, that GMC SPIDs started in 66 like chevs, and once started, they always would have had them. Interested to hear the difference - I am honestly in the dark on some GMC details, always good to learn a little more. Thanks.

For the most part, a '67 GMC will not have a SPID. That is the rule of thumb, yet some very few have shown up with one. Rhyme or reason? I could probably come up with a rhyme but not a reason.

I once had a GMC

A Camper Cruiser 67

Was a favorite to me

But things as it be

Old truck is now way up in heaven.
.....................

Had plans that just never happened

Condition just turned into crappened

Big City said get rid

There it went with no SPID

And my nosy neighbors all stood there clappin'

**Bob B.** · 02-19-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko

Bob, can you elaborate on often didn’t have a SPID? I’ve never heard that - didn’t often, as in, sometimes they did and sometimes they didn’t? I assumed, maybe incorrectly, that GMC SPIDs started in 66 like chevs, and once started, they always would have had them. Interested to hear the difference - I am honestly in the dark on some GMC details, always good to learn a little more. Thanks.

I can't say I have ever seen a '67 GMC with a SPID label, my truck included (purchased from original owner). My understanding is some of the late production '67 GMC's did, and I believe someone posted a picture of a '67 GMC SPID on this forum once.

1972RedNeck · 02-19-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by saxart

Did you say your truck has a V6 in it? I don't believe they ever produced this truck with that engine configuration.

They did, all the way to '69 as an option, and then special order through '72.

**special-K** · 02-19-2018, 09:41 AM

Welcome, Arcticman. That is a cool truck you found. I may be wrong, but I think production figures that are available are for Chevy Trucks and there are no records on GMC. Due to a fire, I think. It's a fact that records would be entirely separate due to being separate divisions.

67ChevyRedneck · 02-19-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Welcome, Arcticman. That is a cool truck you found. I may be wrong, but I think production figures that are available are for Chevy Trucks and there are no records on GMC. Due to a fire, I think. It's a fact that records would be entirely separate due to being separate divisions.

To add to that, it is believed that Chevrolet production was 3:1 to 4:1 compared to GMC. With the rarer models, it's harder to tell, did GM really only build 250-300 GMC SWB fleet 4x4s, or since the number was so low, did GMC actually sell +/- 1,000 units as well?

As stated, we will never know. It's frustrating. I have a 65 Mustang and Ford destroyed all records from 65/66 but Kevin Marti was able to purchase/save all of the 67+ records and you can literally get a "marti report" with just about any information you could ever want about your 67+ mustang... 65/66, you're not finding out squat. Same for 67-72 GMC trucks, we just don't know.

Mike C · 02-19-2018, 11:39 AM

Cool find. Should have Dana 44’s in both ends as well. 30 years ago I was looking at a 67 GMC short step 4x4 with SM420 and the V6. Wish I had bought that one. Hope you get it and will provide pics!

68panelman · 02-19-2018, 09:47 AM

Would love to see pics of this one.

**Canuckvetter** · 02-19-2018, 10:00 AM

Welcome to the forum. Post pics when you can I would love to see this truck.

**Fbks_Cruiser** · 02-19-2018, 02:59 PM

Hey, arcticman, is that the rig I saw pop up on Craigslist for the last month or so? I thought it was pretty cool but pics looked like a tree had fallen on it. Dented up roof and hood? Price seemed high for that but prob left room for negotiation! Good luck. You will find a bunch of great information here and really helpful folks. Welcome!

I’m in Fairbanks. Maybe we can get together ad talk GMCs sometime.

67ChevyRedneck · 02-19-2018, 03:22 PM

Option codes:

http://outintheshop.com/options.html

35boulder · 02-19-2018, 05:10 PM

welcome arctic man. as all have said, looking forward to some pics.

jmader · 02-19-2018, 10:25 PM

I parted out a 67 GMC with a SPID a while back and still have the glovebox door. 1046 was the Chevy production numbers only so yes the GMC’s were only a fraction of that number so I’d say the 2-300 number is probably a pretty good guess. I’ve been on the board for 5 years or so and have only ever seen a picture of one other 67 GMC short box k10. My 67 GMC 4x4 has a KE vin and it’s the only one of those I’ve ever seen. The large majority of these came with the V6.

Vintage Windmills · 02-22-2018, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jmader

I parted out a 67 GMC with a SPID a while back and still have the glovebox door. I’ve been on the board for 5 years or so and have only ever seen a picture of one other 67 GMC short box k10. My 67 GMC 4x4 has a KE vin and it’s the only one of those I’ve ever seen. The large majority of these came with the V6.

Hey Jeremy, the other members I'm aware of that had/have a 67 GMC SWB 4x4 are 75GMC454 (Clint), John@thePier and Meatman. Now with this new one and Hardcorecrash above, that makes 5. They are rare indeed.

I have a loaded 67 C2500 with a SPID- its a pretty interesting list of options. I have
seen a couple others with SPID but the vast majority in my experience didn't have.

Your 67 GMC is the only KE 67 GMC vin I've seen.

Looking forward to pics and more info from articman!

arcticman · 02-19-2018, 10:48 PM

I will post pictures as soon as I have the vehicle. Its currently being shipped.
Thanks everyone.

HARDCORECASH · 02-19-2018, 11:30 PM

arcticman I'm curious to hear more about your truck to. I also have a 1967 GMC Shortbox 4x4. Came factory with V6/4 speed, buddy buckets, speed warning buzzer and a posi. The V6 was swapped out with a 350 years ago according to the previous owner. It does not have the SPID in the glove box. Not sure if it had one or if it was removed

Vintage Windmills · 02-23-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECASH

arcticman I'm curious to hear more about your truck to. I also have a 1967 GMC Shortbox 4x4. Came factory with V6/4 speed, buddy buckets, speed warning buzzer and a posi. The V6 was swapped out with a 350 years ago according to the previous owner. It does not have the SPID in the glove box. Not sure if it had one or if it was removed

While we wait for pics from arcticman, do you have any pics of your rare truck?

HARDCORECASH · 02-24-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

While we wait for pics from arcticman, do you have any pics of your rare truck?

Here are a few of my truck. Hope arcticman doesn’t mind me posting. I knew these trucks were rare but by the sounds of it they are very rare!! Thanks for all the info fellas!

HARDCORECASH · 02-24-2018, 10:49 AM

Few more...

jmader · 03-25-2018, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECASH

Few more...

It looks like your truck has a rubber floor mat and the carpet behind the seats appears to be fawn is that right?

mike16 · 02-20-2018, 12:19 AM

gm destroyed the records after a lawsuit where the media needed to dramatise the fire hazard of side tanks buy attaching squibs to them and igniting them just as the impact occured.

the news media typical of thier spin control tactics demanded ALL of GM's records. GM was forced to comply at thier own expense. The records were never actually used but the risk was clearly there. statistical evidence of wrong doing vs actual evidence...GM realised it was only a matter of time before somebody sued them and won. so imeadeatly after that lawsuit the records were destroyed.

the news media won in the long run. And we among many interest groups lost out.

It was the pontiac records that were lost, not so much by fire itself but by water damage caused in the effort to put the fire out.

please remember that origonal trucks are few and far between so please document with images every aspect of your truck before you chop cut and lower it and add an LSx and 20's

02-19-2018, 12:49 AM	#1
arcticman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: ANCHORAGE Posts: 137	New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Hello everyone, I'm new to this site. I'm just in the process of purchasing 67 GMC 1/2 ton short bed fleetside 4x4.I've started to research the truck and it is checking out to be a true original unmolested survivor. I've decoded the Vin. # using a decoder built on this site and it matches the trucks current set-up and also matches the build sheet in the seat back coils right down to the original paint, optional v6, and the wood bed. I was trying to research production #s and the site I came across said 1046 units built in 1967. My question is this; 1) is that #a combined total of both Chevy and GMC trucks built. 2) if its a combination of both does anybody know the breakdown of that number how many are Chevrolet versus GMC Trucks. 3)The truck is a manual 4 speed with locking front hubs that look to be original Is their anywhere I could find pictures of original locking 1/2 ton hubs? 4) Is their a VIN # stamped in the frame if so where would it be located? Thanks for any help you can provide.

02-19-2018, 01:17 AM	#2
saxart Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: St. Croix River Valley, WI Posts: 795	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Did you say your truck has a V6 in it? I don't believe they ever produced this truck with that engine configuration. Can you post a pic of the SPID label from inside the glovebox door? That will truly tell us how your truck came from the factory. __________________ Meet "Old Roy": http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707801

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arcticman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: ANCHORAGE Posts: 137	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 I don't have a pick of that label. I did attach vin # and the second digit is M=v6 the motor. It is a 305 V6 oil bath air cleaner GMC valve covers. Thanks Attached Images

02-19-2018, 02:25 AM	#4
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,393	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 1967 GMC's often didn't have a SPID label, but if the VIN matches the build sheet that's all you need. 'KM' in the VIN means V-6 4X4, no question. If there is a VIN stamped on the frame it would likely be on the top of the driver's side rail just ahead of or under the cab. I think that production figure you have would be for GMC's only, GMC and Chevy were separate divisions and there wouldn't be any reason to combine production totals. For GMC V-6 information, look here: www.6066gmcclub.com Sounds like a great truck, good luck with it! __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Welcome, Arcticman. That is a cool truck you found. I may be wrong, but I think production figures that are available are for Chevy Trucks and there are no records on GMC. Due to a fire, I think. It's a fact that records would be entirely separate due to being separate divisions. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,739	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Cool find. Should have Dana 44’s in both ends as well. 30 years ago I was looking at a 67 GMC short step 4x4 with SM420 and the V6. Wish I had bought that one. Hope you get it and will provide pics! __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

02-19-2018, 09:47 AM	#12
68panelman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Delaware and Long Island, New York Posts: 3,464	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Would love to see pics of this one.

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Canuckvetter How did I get this OLD! Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Lamont County, AB, CANADA Posts: 1,050	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Welcome to the forum. Post pics when you can I would love to see this truck. __________________ 1967 Oshawa built LWB Fleetside. 327,3 OTT, 515 Vermilion, CST, PS, PB, Shoulder Harness, Tach,Vac, Speed Warning, Choke Delete, Manual Throttle, Fawn interior. Dealer installed A/C 04/2015, N34 Rosewood Wheel 06/2023 Members who I have met personally. Metaldoc, chevnkevin, 62 Longbed, 72LHorn, 72MARIO, YBNORML, TBONE1964, Classic Bowties, Chevemall, Dagnabbitt.

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Fbks_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 344	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Hey, arcticman, is that the rig I saw pop up on Craigslist for the last month or so? I thought it was pretty cool but pics looked like a tree had fallen on it. Dented up roof and hood? Price seemed high for that but prob left room for negotiation! Good luck. You will find a bunch of great information here and really helpful folks. Welcome! I’m in Fairbanks. Maybe we can get together ad talk GMCs sometime. __________________ 1972 GMC K2500 Super Custom Matt

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67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 Option codes: http://outintheshop.com/options.html __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

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35boulder Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 welcome arctic man. as all have said, looking forward to some pics.

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jmader Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Grand Island, NE Posts: 1,483	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 I parted out a 67 GMC with a SPID a while back and still have the glovebox door. 1046 was the Chevy production numbers only so yes the GMC’s were only a fraction of that number so I’d say the 2-300 number is probably a pretty good guess. I’ve been on the board for 5 years or so and have only ever seen a picture of one other 67 GMC short box k10. My 67 GMC 4x4 has a KE vin and it’s the only one of those I’ve ever seen. The large majority of these came with the V6. __________________ 1949 Chevy 3100 Five Window 1964 Chevy C10 Lambrecht Auction project 1967 Chevy SWB K10 1967 GMC K15 Project Build thread- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...72#post6502772 1968 Chevy Anniversary K10 1991 K5 4" Lift 35's (the wife's toy)

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arcticman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: ANCHORAGE Posts: 137	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 I will post pictures as soon as I have the vehicle. Its currently being shipped. Thanks everyone.

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HARDCORECASH Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 287	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 arcticman I'm curious to hear more about your truck to. I also have a 1967 GMC Shortbox 4x4. Came factory with V6/4 speed, buddy buckets, speed warning buzzer and a posi. The V6 was swapped out with a 350 years ago according to the previous owner. It does not have the SPID in the glove box. Not sure if it had one or if it was removed

02-24-2018, 10:49 AM	#23
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mike16 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: bisbee, arizona Posts: 1,530	Re: New member 67 GMC SB wideside 4x4 gm destroyed the records after a lawsuit where the media needed to dramatise the fire hazard of side tanks buy attaching squibs to them and igniting them just as the impact occured. the news media typical of thier spin control tactics demanded ALL of GM's records. GM was forced to comply at thier own expense. The records were never actually used but the risk was clearly there. statistical evidence of wrong doing vs actual evidence...GM realised it was only a matter of time before somebody sued them and won. so imeadeatly after that lawsuit the records were destroyed. the news media won in the long run. And we among many interest groups lost out. It was the pontiac records that were lost, not so much by fire itself but by water damage caused in the effort to put the fire out. please remember that origonal trucks are few and far between so please document with images every aspect of your truck before you chop cut and lower it and add an LSx and 20's

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