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11-23-2018, 08:20 PM | #1 |
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GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
Does anyone know if a 1954-1955 1st series 235 is longer in a GMC than in a Chevrolet?
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11-23-2018, 09:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
answering your exact question, a chevrolet 235 will be the same length no matter what truck its installed in :P
but jokes aside, gmc engines are completely different than chevrolets, and yes they are about an inch longer. gmc didnt make a 235, they made a 228, 248, and 270. in a half ton 54-55.1 it should be a 248. you can find the engine size on the flat pad next to the distributor, the first 3 numbers will be the engine size. gmc engines were full pressure oilers (so were the 235 chevys of 54-55 though) and made more torque.
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11-23-2018, 11:27 PM | #3 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
GMC I6 engines are actually longer than the Chevy.
On the early trucks there was a dip in the front crossmember on the GMCs so the front pulley would clear the radiator support. |
11-24-2018, 11:41 AM | #4 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
Thank You for the info. Seems there were a lot of differences in those days. Today just looks.
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11-24-2018, 02:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
Yep, the old timers (way older than me) still will tell you that the GMC trucks from those years were built a lot more heavy duty than a Chevy was. Frame is exactly the same except for the front crossmember but I have probably had a hundred guys who would now be in their 90's tell me that the GMC trucks were built more heavy duty.
Back when I was 19 I put a 248 GMC six in a 50 Chevy hardtop and that was quite a challenge. It would have been a lot easier to replace the broken piston in the 216 and do a ring and valve job.
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11-24-2018, 03:57 PM | #6 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
The top photo is (or should be) a member's truck showing the Jag XJ suspension install that shows the Chevy front crossmember
The other photo is a shot of the front of my GMC 1/2 longbed frame that I am going to use under my 48 in the rebuild. I'm using it so I can stretch the cab 9-1/4 inches and have an unmodified frame. You can see the way the front crossmember is dipped way down where the core support sits.
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11-25-2018, 12:04 AM | #7 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
I have several projects of my own. I have a friend who has this 54-55 GMC . He may need a rebuild able GMC engine. I passed the information everyone passed on about the size. Any leads on another engine would be appreciated. I have a 1955 1St series 3100 Chevrolet 5 window in my collection. It has 67000 actual miles on it. It has a hydro attic trans in it. It runs great.
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11-25-2018, 12:23 AM | #8 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
The Chevy engine will fit a GMC, you just need to keep the GMC radiator support.
The Chevy car engines have the longer water pump, which causes some clearance issues, but since yours is from a 54-55 1st series, shouldn’t be an issue. |
11-27-2018, 09:06 AM | #9 |
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Re: GMC ? Chevrolet 235 difference
I think the reason the old timers talk about how the GMC trucks were more heavy duty must be that the GMC range went beyond the 2 ton weight rating that chevy stopped at until the '60's or so when chevy started making some really heavy trucks.
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