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03-29-2020, 04:29 PM | #1 |
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Installing door sound deadening material
Gonna start installing some sound deadening material to the inside of the outer door skins. I've removed all the window and handle hardware so door interiors are empty. Could use some tips/tricks on putting mat type material inside the door. (I was gonna ask for an easy way but doubt that exists.)
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03-29-2020, 05:33 PM | #2 |
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
Well it will have to be cut into strips about 5 to ten inches wide. This is done for easy handling. Next put the pieces in the freezer for 10 mins. or so, this helps to place the pieces in the door without sticking, once in place start to push in place then roll done next strip time . I did both sides of my doors . No more tin sound,very solid. Get a good roller a short handle and a long handle to get where your arm does not reach or fit. Good luck !
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03-29-2020, 07:08 PM | #3 |
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Thanks for the tip. Never would have thought of putting it in the freezer but makes great sense.
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03-29-2020, 07:22 PM | #4 |
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
Yea, I never heard of the freezer trick either. On this truck, I've done the passenger door successfully and half of the floorboard so far. The driver's side doesn't want to stick so well tho. I've tried wiping it down and everything. So maybe give yours a wipe down first too, just to ensure better adhesion. And definitely grab a roller. They make a big difference.
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03-30-2020, 07:53 AM | #5 |
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For areas that won't stick good, wipe down with grease and wax remover (Prep Sol ) sand with 80 or 120 grit sandpaper then wipe again. For real bad spots use a heavy duty contact cement. Let it dry for a couple of hours. Just remember it will grab the sound material fast. also you can heat the metal up with heat gun or blow dryer,while you use the roller.
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03-30-2020, 10:27 AM | #6 |
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
Good info, thank you. Got a couple rollers and figured to clean the surfaces first as best I could.
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The upper portion of the inner door skin was sticking fine, but the lower portion had a lot of built up dirt, grease and grime. I sanded with 100 grit for what seemed like forever. Vacuumed it all up, then gave it a few good wipes with some rubbing alcohol to get any remaining oils. The damplifier stuck with no problem now! And the door sounds SO solid closing. Love these quarantine projects! You can kind of see the black damplifier pro in the upper and lower openings of the inner door skin in this pic.....
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
What material are you using for sound deadening?
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03-30-2020, 01:22 PM | #9 |
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Thought about going the cheap route using the Peal & Seal stuff from Lowe's but I guess I'll spring for the Noico. Better safe than sorry. Still wondering if I have to completely cover the door surface or can just use patches on sections. After all you just have to use a few fingers on a symbol to dampen the sound, don't have to cover the whole thing.
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03-30-2020, 03:29 PM | #11 |
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Thanks for the comments Mick, and I'm surprised. From what I understand from reading your posts your truck will be one hi-po machine. Racer even I thought. So sound insulation wouldn't even be on the list, added weight. AC....that surprised me even more. Guess I missed something along the way. Always enjoy reading your posts.
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04-01-2020, 12:49 PM | #13 |
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
I have abs door panels that fit from the window trim to the bottom of the door. im thinking of taking the easy way and putting the sound deadening material on the back of the abs.
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
I’m sure it would help but not as much as attaching the sound deadening material to the metal surface. Steel door resonates a lot more than ABS plastic.
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If you're talking about a closed cell foam or thermal insulation, then you could do that if you had the room. Those will absorb sound more than dampen it. I think words get minced here sometimes. It really comes down to what you're trying to accomplish. On this truck, I wanted to kill the vibrations in the door that make it sound like a tin can when you close the door. Using about 4 sheets of the self adhesive butyl rubber sheets accomplished that. On my tacoma, I wanted to silence road and air noise that was transmitted through the doors/floor/roof, so I used a multi layer and product approach.
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
so then if I just put the material on the inside surface that has the access holes, would that help? im not sure I want to fight with getting the material inside the door cavity.
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
Sure that will help. Remember, on doors you have two surfaces that can resonate, the outer door skin and the inner door surface. The outer surface will resonate more because it is one big smooth surface. The inner surface is broken up by holes, indentations, hardware mounting, etc. so it will resonate less. Sound deadening both surfaces would be optimal but the outer door surface is the primary source of resonance. And accept that I’m not a physicist nor a sound engineer, just voicing my opinion from experience and logic.
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Do it right the first time and cut it into small pieces, take your time and place it on the inside of the door. To kill the majority of vibrations you really only need to do some at the top and bottom. If your goal is a dead quiet ride, you're going to have to consider closing off those inner door skin holes. Sound will travel through them and any other hole. Again....gotta consider goals and expectations.
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04-01-2020, 08:24 PM | #20 |
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Re: Installing door sound deadening material
Not to hard to do both sides of the door, I used the one big hole and just put strips in one at a time . I got about three inches from the bottom. That's why I freeze the pieces first, makes getting them in place very easy.Just take the windows out,that's harder than the install. I used Fatman and it worked great.
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